Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-26 Thread S. Beaulieu

JAS wrote:

I am using SM2 and have no problems with passwords, I have 11 accounts
and all load automatically. No problems at all. Using Walnut theme and
Win XP Pro.



Maybe I tried to condense too much and my meaning was lost on the way! I 
have no problem with the passwords themselves, just with the boxes in 
which I type them. Since I refuse to save my passwords, I have to type 
them the forst time I launch Mail every day. In the previous versions of 
SM, one password window would appear, I'd type my password, press enter 
and then the next window would appear. Lather, rince, repeat.


In 2.0, though, all the windows appear nonstop, one over another. That 
means that originally, I'd see the first window appear, start typing my 
password, but by the time I was done, several other windows had also 
appeared, successively stealing focus. Thus, my password was spread over 
several windows and by the time I pressed enter, I would always get a 
wrong password message (obviously).


So now, I simply wait until all the windows have appeared, then go 
through them one by one, having to click on the next one every time 
since focus doesn't get passed over. It's a very minor problem IMHO, but 
it's the only one I still have. I remember seing a bug for it since 2.0 
was launched, but I can't seem to find it again.


I'm running on Win2K SP4 (and will hopefully get my new computer 
tomorrow—I'm keeping my fingers crossed!)


S.
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-26 Thread JAS
S. Beaulieu wrote:
 JAS wrote:
 I am using SM2 and have no problems with passwords, I have 11 accounts
 and all load automatically. No problems at all. Using Walnut theme and
 Win XP Pro.


 Maybe I tried to condense too much and my meaning was lost on the way!
 I have no problem with the passwords themselves, just with the boxes
 in which I type them. Since I refuse to save my passwords, I have to
 type them the forst time I launch Mail every day. In the previous
 versions of SM, one password window would appear, I'd type my
 password, press enter and then the next window would appear. Lather,
 rince, repeat.

 In 2.0, though, all the windows appear nonstop, one over another. That
 means that originally, I'd see the first window appear, start typing
 my password, but by the time I was done, several other windows had
 also appeared, successively stealing focus. Thus, my password was
 spread over several windows and by the time I pressed enter, I would
 always get a wrong password message (obviously).

 So now, I simply wait until all the windows have appeared, then go
 through them one by one, having to click on the next one every time
 since focus doesn't get passed over. It's a very minor problem IMHO,
 but it's the only one I still have. I remember seing a bug for it
 since 2.0 was launched, but I can't seem to find it again.

 I'm running on Win2K SP4 (and will hopefully get my new computer
 tomorrow—I'm keeping my fingers crossed!)

 S.
OK- I misunderstood and see your problem. I save my passwords and don't
experience your problem. I hope they get it fixed for you. Happy
Thanksgiving

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-25 Thread jim
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:29:08 -0800 (PST), Jim
jlong...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use. ... Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.

I agree.

jim

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-25 Thread Ant

On 11/25/2009 9:48 AM PT, jim typed:


I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use. ... Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I agree.


I miss this conversation. What issues are there right now? I am still 
using v1.1.18.

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-25 Thread S. Beaulieu

Ant wrote:


I miss this conversation. What issues are there right now? I am still
using v1.1.18.



I had the CP problem, but that was solved a while ago. The only 
problem I still have—and it's really minor—is that of the loss of 
control over the various successive password boxes for my multiple email 
accounts when I launch the Mail client. I have to wait until they have 
all appeared to input my password, clicking on each box separately 
instead of the control being treansferred automatically to the next one.


Nothing more on my end, so I have no idea what those severe bugs are 
meant to be.


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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-25 Thread JAS
S. Beaulieu wrote:
 Ant wrote:

 I miss this conversation. What issues are there right now? I am still
 using v1.1.18.


 I had the CP problem, but that was solved a while ago. The only
 problem I still have—and it's really minor—is that of the loss of
 control over the various successive password boxes for my multiple
 email accounts when I launch the Mail client. I have to wait until
 they have all appeared to input my password, clicking on each box
 separately instead of the control being treansferred automatically to
 the next one.

 Nothing more on my end, so I have no idea what those severe bugs are
 meant to be.

 S.
I am using SM2 and have no problems with passwords, I have 11 accounts
and all load automatically. No problems at all. Using Walnut theme and
Win XP Pro.

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-25 Thread Phillip Jones

jim wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:29:08 -0800 (PST), Jim
jlong...@jaguar1.usouthal.edu  in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use. ... Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I agree.

jim

One bug they have fixed on the Mac side was clicking command -S to bring 
up Save menu and the Command -S again actually saving the file. It had 
been broken since SM 1.1.2


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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-04 Thread Ray_Net

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the feel and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I really do understand your frustration. To be completely honest with 
you, you can certainly return to 1.1.18.  But you do have to realize 
that you are sticking with a complete dead end.


You can do that. Heck there are people out there still running the last 
version of the Mozilla suite, Netscape 7.2, even a few still trying to 
get Communicator to work. The older the abandoned product gets, the less 
functional it becomes.


For a good while, probably quite a while, 1.1.18 will continue to work, 
and work quite well.  But the days are numbered and the clock is 
ticking. I doubt that you will see any security updates for the 1.1 line.


If you value the suite approach, and if you want to have a product that 
is going to carry you into the future with any certainty, making 2.0 
work is the only real way to go.


The only other real option is to go Firefox/Thunderbird.  Its a good 
option, but I am willing to bet that you will have just as much 
conversion problems going that route as you will staying with SeaMonkey.


I am sorry this has been so difficult for you.

Lee


I believe that the biggest problem, is that bugs are most of the time 
never solved. Or ..too late. Per exemple did you expect a good date for 
the  patch to solve the copy/cut problem 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601 ???

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-04 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 4/11/2009 21:20, Ray_Net told the world:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:

 
 I believe that the biggest problem, is that bugs are most of the time 
 never solved. Or ..too late. Per exemple did you expect a good date for 
 the  patch to solve the copy/cut problem 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601 ???

Actually, I had a look at that bug. Jens Hatlak suggested checking
another bug ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334500 ), for
a nearly identical problem that plagued Firefox back in 2006... which
turned out to be caused by spyware.

So, there's a fair chance that it isn't a Seamonkey bug at all, but a
problem caused by spyware. Try some spyware scanner; some good free ones
are Ad-Aware, Spybot and Malwarebytes.

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2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-03 Thread Jim
I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the feel and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-03 Thread Leonidas Jones

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the feel and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.


I really do understand your frustration. To be completely honest with 
you, you can certainly return to 1.1.18.  But you do have to realize 
that you are sticking with a complete dead end.


You can do that. Heck there are people out there still running the last 
version of the Mozilla suite, Netscape 7.2, even a few still trying to 
get Communicator to work. The older the abandoned product gets, the less 
functional it becomes.


For a good while, probably quite a while, 1.1.18 will continue to work, 
and work quite well.  But the days are numbered and the clock is 
ticking. I doubt that you will see any security updates for the 1.1 line.


If you value the suite approach, and if you want to have a product that 
is going to carry you into the future with any certainty, making 2.0 
work is the only real way to go.


The only other real option is to go Firefox/Thunderbird.  Its a good 
option, but I am willing to bet that you will have just as much 
conversion problems going that route as you will staying with SeaMonkey.


I am sorry this has been so difficult for you.

Lee
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-03 Thread Bush

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the feel and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.



 I will 2nd the Motion
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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

2009-11-03 Thread Phillip Jones

Bush wrote:

Jim wrote:

I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
are too severe to warrant continued use.  I've come to expect better
from Mozilla releases.  I didn't use Firefox or Thunderbird because I
didn't like the feel and they weren't integrated as a suite.  Now
Seamonkey has lost it's original feel. Things that I liked about
Seamonkey are gone (quick launch, quick mail filter 'clear' button).

I've reported two or three of the glaring problems (folder listings
disappearing, compact related issues). Until the major bugs are fixed,
I'll stick with version 1.18.



   I will 2nd the Motion


I'm not happy about Forms Manager as was in 1.1.8 being gone. I've been 
told you can correct mistakes by highlighting entry and then his delete. 
But it doesn't work. I've tried. I'll deal with it because I am not 
going back. But I don't like it.


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