Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-19 Thread Daniel

On 19/07/14 00:37, BIll Spikowski wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to
get PDF files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have
gotten jumbled again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using
Reader instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in
Acrobat 9 or XI in a separate window, but I'd rather not do that over
and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in
which Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it
would seem PDFs should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it
identifies itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the
file in Acrobat (in a separate window), which works, but is not my
preferred behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro
PDF) but none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat
product.)



I was writing a LONG message detailing all the suggestions I followed
-- I saved it so I could restart Seamonkey, but who knows where it went!

Anyway, thanks for all the ideas; I'm working through them one by one.
So far the behavior is unchanged -- but I'm getting confident I'll
figure it out!


Not sure exactly which tip did the trick, but everything seems to be
working fine now.

I truly appreciate the knowledgeable folks in this newsgroup who are
willing to help out total strangers!


Bill, I don't think we're total strangers, just you, this week, might 
have been me last year or the year before!!


That's why I hang out around here, to try to lighten the load on those 
that helped me out previously!!


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Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-18 Thread BIll Spikowski

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get PDF 
files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten jumbled 
again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader 
instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or XI in a 
separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in which 
Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it would seem PDFs 
should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it identifies 
itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file in Acrobat (in a 
separate window), which works, but is not my preferred behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro PDF) but 
none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)



I was writing a LONG message detailing all the suggestions I followed -- I 
saved it so I could restart Seamonkey, but who knows where it went!

Anyway, thanks for all the ideas; I'm working through them one by one. So far 
the behavior is unchanged -- but I'm getting confident I'll figure it out!
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Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-18 Thread BIll Spikowski

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get
PDF files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten
jumbled again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader
instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or
XI in a separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in
which Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it
would seem PDFs should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it
identifies itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file
in Acrobat (in a separate window), which works, but is not my preferred
behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro
PDF) but none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)


First off, I don't understand why you have the Reader installed at all. Why let 
the programs compete when you have a much more powerful program in Acrobat XI? 
So I recommend uninstalling the Reader and simplifying the problem and your 
life.

Having done so, go to Edit | Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications and look at the prefs for 
PDF files. You'll see several different types because PDF files are served with several 
different MIME headers. If you want them to open in a SeaMonkey window, choose the option Use 
Adobe Acrobat (in SeaMonkey). If you insist on retaining the reader, you can also select that 
in the same way.

You may also find it helpful to set a pref in Acrobat. I have version X, where 
it was at Edit | Preferences | Internet | [x] Display PDF in browser. That's 
supposed to prevent Acrobat from launching as a separate application to handle 
PDF links when you browse.

Another Acrobat pref that may be relevant is at Edit | Preferences | General | 
Select Default PDF Handler. If you specify Acrobat XI, PDFs should only ever 
open in the Reader when you open them from within the Reader. But of course if 
you've uninstalled the Reader, there's no issue here.


I've NEVER installed Reader, having used various versions of the full Acrobat 
product for at least a dozen years; yet it keeps reappearing as a Seamonkey 
tab. I NEVER let Adobe install updates without my explicit permission, so I'm 
not sure how this keeps happening.

Reader isn't listed in Add or Remove Programs; nor is it listed as an 
application I can launch directly. So it must exist only as a browser plug-in (not even 
sure that's the right term). I use several other browsers occasionally so perhaps one of 
them installed it and it's hidden from my view.

I went to Edit | Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications. I see two PDF types. One 
(application/force-download) is set for Use Adobe Acrobat 9.5, a previous that I haven't uninstalled. The 
other (application/pdf) is set for Use Adobe Acrobat. I don't see a choice for Use Adobe Acrobat (in 
SeaMonkey), which sounds like what I really want. (In the dropdown box, Reader doesn't appear as an option.) I 
reset the 9.5 option to XI.

I tried your next step; the choices are a little different in XI. It provides 
instructions for different browsers; the Firefox instructions seem to match 
Seamonkey, but the Acrobat option doesn't appear (maybe because I disabled it 
yesterday to get rid of Reader!).

I tried your last step; it was already set to Acrobat XI, but I applied it 
again in hopes that it might start working.

Still no change. I restarted Seamonkey; still no change. Restarted Windows; 
still no change.

But now I have Use Adobe Acrobat (in SeaMonkey) as a choice, so I'm making 
progress!





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Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-18 Thread BIll Spikowski

BIll Spikowski wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get PDF 
files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten jumbled 
again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader 
instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or XI in a 
separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in which 
Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it would seem PDFs 
should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it identifies 
itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file in Acrobat (in a 
separate window), which works, but is not my preferred behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro PDF) but 
none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)



I was writing a LONG message detailing all the suggestions I followed -- I 
saved it so I could restart Seamonkey, but who knows where it went!

Anyway, thanks for all the ideas; I'm working through them one by one. So far 
the behavior is unchanged -- but I'm getting confident I'll figure it out!


Not sure exactly which tip did the trick, but everything seems to be working 
fine now.

I truly appreciate the knowledgeable folks in this newsgroup who are willing to 
help out total strangers!
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Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-17 Thread BIll Spikowski

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get PDF 
files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten jumbled 
again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader 
instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or XI in a 
separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in which 
Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it would seem PDFs 
should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it identifies 
itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file in Acrobat (in a 
separate window), which works, but is not my preferred behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro PDF) but 
none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)
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Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get
PDF files from the web to open the way I want.

Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten
jumbled again.

Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader
instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or
XI in a separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!

I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in
which Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it
would seem PDFs should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.

I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it
identifies itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file
in Acrobat (in a separate window), which works, but is not my preferred
behavior.

Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?

(BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro
PDF) but none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)


First off, I don't understand why you have the Reader installed at all. 
Why let the programs compete when you have a much more powerful program 
in Acrobat XI? So I recommend uninstalling the Reader and simplifying 
the problem and your life.


Having done so, go to Edit | Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications 
and look at the prefs for PDF files. You'll see several different 
types because PDF files are served with several different MIME 
headers. If you want them to open in a SeaMonkey window, choose the 
option Use Adobe Acrobat (in SeaMonkey). If you insist on retaining 
the reader, you can also select that in the same way.


You may also find it helpful to set a pref in Acrobat. I have version X, 
where it was at Edit | Preferences | Internet | [x] Display PDF in 
browser. That's supposed to prevent Acrobat from launching as a separate 
application to handle PDF links when you browse.


Another Acrobat pref that may be relevant is at Edit | Preferences | 
General | Select Default PDF Handler. If you specify Acrobat XI, PDFs 
should only ever open in the Reader when you open them from within the 
Reader. But of course if you've uninstalled the Reader, there's no issue 
here.


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Re: Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2014-07-17 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/17/2014 2:01 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:
 Every so often something changes and I have to re-figure out how to get PDF 
 files from the web to open the way I want.
 
 Recently I upgraded from Acrobat 9 to Acrobat XI and things have gotten 
 jumbled again.
 
 Now when I download a PDF file, it opens in a Seamonkey tab using Reader 
 instead of Acrobat 9. I can save the file, then open it in Acrobat 9 or XI in 
 a separate window, but I'd rather not do that over and over!
 
 I seem to remember that this behavior is controlled by the order in which 
 Reader and Acrobat was installed -- is that correct? If so, it would seem 
 PDFs should now open in a Seamonkey tab using Acrobat XI.
 
 I just disabled Reader in the Add-ons Manager (where perversely it identifies 
 itself as Acrobat!). Now I'm asked if I want to open the file in Acrobat (in 
 a separate window), which works, but is not my preferred behavior.
 
 Does anyone know how I can reset Acrobat XI to open in a Seamonkey tab?
 
 (BTW, I've tried some of the other alternatives (PDF.js, Foxit, Nitro PDF) 
 but none of them offer the functionality of the full Acrobat product.)
 

Part of your problem might be the fact that the plugins for both Adobe
Acrobat and Adobe Reader are .dll files with the same name: nppdf32.dll.
 It appears that Adobe Reader has two identical copies of that file, one
in the Browser subfolder and one in the AIR subfolder.  Adobe Acrobat
has only one, in the Browser subfolder.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help  About Plugins].  Find Adobe
Acrobat on the page.  Note that, no matter whether the plugin is really
from Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader, it will be identified as Adobe
Acrobat.  Check the path to nppdf32.dll.  If it is the path through
Adobe Reader, that is the cause of your problem.

In that case, try the following:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit  Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Browser  Helper
Applications].

3.  On the Helper Applications pane, locate Adobe Acrobat Document and
select that line.

4.  On the right side of Adobe Acrobat Document line, select the
down-pointing triangle to get a selection list.  Select Use Other.

5.  On the Select Helper Application window, select the actual Adobe
Acrobat application.  If it is not in that window, select the Browse
button, navigate to Adobe Acrobat, and select it.  (What you really want
is Adobe Acrobat (in SeaMonkey), but I don't know how to force that.
You might try navigating to the nppdf32.dll file in Adobe Acrobat's
Browser subfolder and selecting that.)

6.  After selecting OK buttons to terminate the Preference window and
its panes and subwindows, again go to [Help  About Plugins] to see if
the correct path to nppdf32.dll is displayed.

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