Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
Daniel wrote on 10-08-17 10:43: On 9/08/2017 11:29 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 09-08-17 10:36: The community specialist is as clueless as they are usually are when it comes to things which they are not familiar with. Google does incorrect browser sniffing period. When you remove Firefox compatibility they fall back to another code path which works. If you remove Firefox it will work for google and break countless other sites. FRG Ray_Net wrote: So the "Community Specialist" pointing SM is CORRECT. SM must be presented as "SM" and not "FF and SM" Anyway, It's ABNORMAL to insert FF id into the UA string. You may try to explain at Google that he must accept TWO differents Browser ID in the same UA string - GOOD LUCK ! :-) This not because other sites needs FF id that SM must have two id You must convince other site to accept SM by itself ! Or, as I understand it, get them to accept "Gecko" as the id. That would cover FF, SM and several other browsers as well! Geeko is Gecko http://geckoisgecko.org/ Gecko IS NOT A BROWSER ...They don't care about these thing They just need to know which browser you use. IF Gecko is the solution .. ALL browsers using it MUST have ONLY "Geeko" in their UA string - nothing else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
On 9/08/2017 11:29 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 09-08-17 10:36: The community specialist is as clueless as they are usually are when it comes to things which they are not familiar with. Google does incorrect browser sniffing period. When you remove Firefox compatibility they fall back to another code path which works. If you remove Firefox it will work for google and break countless other sites. FRG Ray_Net wrote: So the "Community Specialist" pointing SM is CORRECT. SM must be presented as "SM" and not "FF and SM" Anyway, It's ABNORMAL to insert FF id into the UA string. You may try to explain at Google that he must accept TWO differents Browser ID in the same UA string - GOOD LUCK ! :-) This not because other sites needs FF id that SM must have two id You must convince other site to accept SM by itself ! Or, as I understand it, get them to accept "Gecko" as the id. That would cover FF, SM and several other browsers as well! Geeko is Gecko http://geckoisgecko.org/ -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.48 Build identifier: 20170329183526 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 09-08-17 10:36: The community specialist is as clueless as they are usually are when it comes to things which they are not familiar with. Google does incorrect browser sniffing period. When you remove Firefox compatibility they fall back to another code path which works. If you remove Firefox it will work for google and break countless other sites. FRG Ray_Net wrote: So the "Community Specialist" pointing SM is CORRECT. SM must be presented as "SM" and not "FF and SM" Anyway, It's ABNORMAL to insert FF id into the UA string. You may try to explain at Google that he must accept TWO differents Browser ID in the same UA string - GOOD LUCK ! :-) This not because other sites needs FF id that SM must have two id You must convince other site to accept SM by itself ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
The community specialist is as clueless as they are usually are when it comes to things which they are not familiar with. Google does incorrect browser sniffing period. When you remove Firefox compatibility they fall back to another code path which works. If you remove Firefox it will work for google and break countless other sites. FRG Ray_Net wrote: So the "Community Specialist" pointing SM is CORRECT. SM must be presented as "SM" and not "FF and SM" ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
Ray_Net wrote on 08-08-17 22:16:
Ant wrote on 08-08-17 16:45:
On 8/7/2017 3:57 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 3:48 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 7:11 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.
Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1
If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.
This is happening more and more of late.
BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the
bottom
was a link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the
link.
Ah, https://www.google.com/search?q=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane 's blue
"More
places" link. Yeah, I get a blank web page too. Viewing its source
shows
a lot of datas so it is downloading, but not displaying it. 64-bit
W7's
IE11 had no problems. I tried disabling cookies, send referrers, and
uBlock Origin extension. None of them fixed it. But ONE change did,
user
agent ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0"). And then it worked. I guess Google doesn't like SM
v2.48's "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48". :(
Anyways, I left a feedback to Google as shown in
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6223687?hl=en_topic=3285072
... I'd suggest others and you do the same so Google can support
our SM
web browsers! :)
I also posted in Google's public forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/rbC0ij8nWCE
... :)
And Ron, the Community Specialist, blames it on SM. Uh, no.
Your reply "No. This would be Google's fault for sniffing the web
browser's user agents incorrectly." will not be take in consideration,
because they think that they are the best so the problem MUST be
in your browser.
Turning off "Advertise Firefox Compatibility" at Edit > Preferences >
Advanced > HTTP Networking. DID NOT exhibit the problem.
So the "Community Specialist" pointing SM is CORRECT. SM must be
presented as "SM" and not "FF and SM"
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Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
Ant wrote on 08-08-17 16:45:
On 8/7/2017 3:57 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 3:48 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 7:11 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.
Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1
If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.
This is happening more and more of late.
BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the bottom
was a link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the
link.
Ah, https://www.google.com/search?q=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane 's blue
"More
places" link. Yeah, I get a blank web page too. Viewing its source
shows
a lot of datas so it is downloading, but not displaying it. 64-bit W7's
IE11 had no problems. I tried disabling cookies, send referrers, and
uBlock Origin extension. None of them fixed it. But ONE change did,
user
agent ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0"). And then it worked. I guess Google doesn't like SM
v2.48's "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48". :(
Anyways, I left a feedback to Google as shown in
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6223687?hl=en_topic=3285072
... I'd suggest others and you do the same so Google can support our SM
web browsers! :)
I also posted in Google's public forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/rbC0ij8nWCE
... :)
And Ron, the Community Specialist, blames it on SM. Uh, no.
Your reply "No. This would be Google's fault for sniffing the web
browser's user agents incorrectly." will not be take in consideration,
because they think that they are the best so the problem MUST be in
your browser.
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Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
On 8/7/2017 3:57 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 3:48 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 7:11 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.
Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1
If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.
This is happening more and more of late.
BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the bottom
was a link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the
link.
Ah, https://www.google.com/search?q=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane 's blue "More
places" link. Yeah, I get a blank web page too. Viewing its source shows
a lot of datas so it is downloading, but not displaying it. 64-bit W7's
IE11 had no problems. I tried disabling cookies, send referrers, and
uBlock Origin extension. None of them fixed it. But ONE change did, user
agent ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0"). And then it worked. I guess Google doesn't like SM
v2.48's "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48". :(
Anyways, I left a feedback to Google as shown in
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6223687?hl=en_topic=3285072
... I'd suggest others and you do the same so Google can support our SM
web browsers! :)
I also posted in Google's public forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/rbC0ij8nWCE ... :)
And Ron, the Community Specialist, blames it on SM. Uh, no.
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Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
On 8/7/2017 3:48 PM, Ant wrote:
On 8/7/2017 7:11 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.
Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1
If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.
This is happening more and more of late.
BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the bottom
was a link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the
link.
Ah, https://www.google.com/search?q=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane 's blue "More
places" link. Yeah, I get a blank web page too. Viewing its source shows
a lot of datas so it is downloading, but not displaying it. 64-bit W7's
IE11 had no problems. I tried disabling cookies, send referrers, and
uBlock Origin extension. None of them fixed it. But ONE change did, user
agent ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0"). And then it worked. I guess Google doesn't like SM
v2.48's "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48". :(
Anyways, I left a feedback to Google as shown in
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6223687?hl=en_topic=3285072
... I'd suggest others and you do the same so Google can support our SM
web browsers! :)
I also posted in Google's public forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/rbC0ij8nWCE ... :)
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Re: Blank Page - empty - ZIP ! (an UA issue)
On 8/7/2017 7:11 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
DoctorBill wrote:
Lately I have had SM display an empty page when I click on a link.
There is a lot in the Location Bar, but NOTHING shows up.
Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane=0=1=0=47660891,-117300504,4608=lcl=0ahUKEwi6zpSFocXVAhXhjFQKHUSUAhQQjGoIWA=lrf:!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:4=1
If the above shows up on someone else's screen, why not mine.
Adblocker on, Popups checked.
This is happening more and more of late.
BTW - This was from a display of Pawn Shops in my area - at the bottom
was a link
that said "more" - implying one could see more listed by clicking the
link.
Ah, https://www.google.com/search?q=Pawn%2Bshops%2Bspokane 's blue "More
places" link. Yeah, I get a blank web page too. Viewing its source shows
a lot of datas so it is downloading, but not displaying it. 64-bit W7's
IE11 had no problems. I tried disabling cookies, send referrers, and
uBlock Origin extension. None of them fixed it. But ONE change did, user
agent ("Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0"). And then it worked. I guess Google doesn't like SM
v2.48's "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48". :(
Anyways, I left a feedback to Google as shown in
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6223687?hl=en_topic=3285072
... I'd suggest others and you do the same so Google can support our SM
web browsers! :)
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