Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-30 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 30/08/2020 8:56 PM:

On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

[ *SNIP* ]
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.


Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks 
displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager".




HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my 
test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a 
Tools->Restore. >>

Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)



I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to 
a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey.


I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using 
the file just created.


I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark 
contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes.


Yeah!! Perseverance wins out!
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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-30 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

[ *SNIP* ]
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.


Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks 
displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager".




HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. >>

Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)



I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to 
a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey.


I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using 
the file just created.


I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark 
contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes.




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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-28 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM:

On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:
[ *SNIP* ]


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is 
evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different 
times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have 
done/haven't done!


Just what did I do? 
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.

HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore.


Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.


"the restore was successful"  in that you now have two panes?? ;-)
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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-27 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:
[ *SNIP* ]


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is 
evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times 
I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't 
done!


Just what did I do? 
Just created a new profile as test case.
It behaves as you have described.

HOWEVER;
If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test 
profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore.


Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful.
Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from 
existing profile to the new profile.




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Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-27 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM:

On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders 
within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. 
Some may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title 
for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' 
icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted 
bookmarks only appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, 
Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select 
one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks 
that you have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently 
a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.


As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times 
I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit 
SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of 
Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't 
done!

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RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-26 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. 
Some may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title 
for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' 
icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted 
bookmarks only appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks 
Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of 
those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you 
have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??


Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test 
machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently 
a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey.





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Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-26 Thread Daniel

Bill Spikowski wrote on 26/08/2020 4:41 AM:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted 
some experimentation.


Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then 
clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.


Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor 
yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.


I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line 
where there would have been one or more bookmarks.


I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder 
structure.


Later.


Here's how it looks on one of my computers.

It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less 
useful if the second pane wasn't available!


Ditto!!  as I've just tried to explain to Richard! (Hmm!! A pictures 
worth how many words?? ;-P )

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Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-26 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM:

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different 
place in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible 
to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location 
in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now 
being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your 
subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the 
left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but 
it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple 
monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.


Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections  in the Left Hand 
section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks 
Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of 
those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you 
have in that folders??


If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the 
screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might 
expose the second pane??

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Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-25 Thread Bill Spikowski

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA




Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some 
experimentation.

Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking 
"Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.

Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a 
not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.

I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there 
would have been one or more bookmarks.

I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure.

Later.



Here's how it looks on one of my computers.

It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less useful if 
the second pane wasn't available!
 


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Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA




Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted 
some experimentation.


Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking 
"Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles.


Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields 
a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles.


I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where 
there would have been one or more bookmarks.


I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure.

Later.





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BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]

2020-08-25 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


[snip]
I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/

[snip]


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being 
called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right 
pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great 
on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip]


I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager".
I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2]
Using the menu choice   Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks
I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to 
display a second pane.



[1]
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711182954
[2]
I'm using i386 Debian on this machine due to historical reasons.
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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-25 Thread jcteyssier via support-seamonkey

Bill Spikowski a écrit :

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem 
moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.


I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the 
big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the 
screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the 
same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. 
Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some 
may date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/


As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only 
folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure?


Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so 
quickly, I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the 
ability to sync bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks 
from anywhere suddenly made the organizational effort worthwhile.


Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being 
called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for 
top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, 
plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only 
appear in the right pane.


But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right 
pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great 
on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!


The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a 
limited number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying 
too much about subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my 
long-suffering spouse, to little avail -- at heart she's as compulsively 
organized as I am, but she's so overwhelmed by her current mess of a 
bookmark collection that she just can't get started dealing with it...)




Does your computers on same network? if so, the whole profile can be 
shared , not only bookmarks :)

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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-24 Thread Bill Spikowski

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)



One more tip -- I now have my first-tier folder structure 'sorta' follow the 
way I organize files on my hard drive. Not that I used a brilliant method there 
either, but since I've gotten used to it over time, it made sense to mirror it 
with my bookmark folder structure. Now when I try to find something, at least I 
have only ONE idiosyncratic system to decipher
 




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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-24 Thread Bill Spikowski

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in 
logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to 
Netscape days.

As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no 
problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's 
what prompted my post ;/

As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder 
titles while displaying their logical tree structure?

Thank you.



My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, 
I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync 
bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly 
made the organizational effort worthwhile.

Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 
'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus 
subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the 
bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane.

But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder 
structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. 
This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large 
monitor, and even better with multiple monitors!

The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited 
number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about 
subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little 
avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so 
overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't 
get started dealing with it...)
 
 


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-24 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/23/2020 04:22 PM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA



You can use cut & paste.  Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste.



*ROFL* !



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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-24 Thread Richard Owlett

On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place 
in hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem 
moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.


I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within 
each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture 
folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill 
down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while 
reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks.


Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal.

What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some 
in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may 
date back to Netscape days.


As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders 
there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in 
the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/


As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only 
folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure?


Thank you.


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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-23 Thread EE

Richard Owlett wrote:
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA



You can use cut & paste.  Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste.

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Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-23 Thread Bill Spikowski

Richard Owlett wrote:

"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view 
structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]

Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA





I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving 
large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager.

I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With 
that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, 
and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of 
first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and 
individual bookmarks.
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Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?

2020-08-23 Thread Richard Owlett
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in 
hierarchy.
*HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to 
view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB]


Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks.

Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions?

TIA


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