Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Richard Owlett wrote on 30/08/2020 8:56 PM: On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM: [ *SNIP* ] Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager". HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. >> Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. "the restore was successful" in that you now have two panes?? ;-) I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey. I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using the file just created. I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes. Yeah!! Perseverance wins out! -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM: [ *SNIP* ] Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager". HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. >> Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. "the restore was successful" in that you now have two panes?? ;-) I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey. I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using the file just created. I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM: On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM: [ *SNIP* ] Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't done! Just what did I do? Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. "the restore was successful" in that you now have two panes?? ;-) -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM: [ *SNIP* ] Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't done! Just what did I do? Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM: On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM: On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections in the Left Hand section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you have in that folders?? If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might expose the second pane?? Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't done! -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM: On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections in the Left Hand section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you have in that folders?? If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might expose the second pane?? Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Bill Spikowski wrote on 26/08/2020 4:41 AM: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some experimentation. Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles. Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles. I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there would have been one or more bookmarks. I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure. Later. Here's how it looks on one of my computers. It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less useful if the second pane wasn't available! Ditto!! as I've just tried to explain to Richard! (Hmm!! A pictures worth how many words?? ;-P ) -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM: On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections in the Left Hand section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you have in that folders?? If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might expose the second pane?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some experimentation. Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles. Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles. I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there would have been one or more bookmarks. I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure. Later. Here's how it looks on one of my computers. It's always opened for me with two panes; it would be enormously less useful if the second pane wasn't available! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some experimentation. Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles. Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles. I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there would have been one or more bookmarks. I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure. Later. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. [1] User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 [2] I'm using i386 Debian on this machine due to historical reasons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
Bill Spikowski a écrit : Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure? Thank you. My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly made the organizational effort worthwhile. Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors! The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't get started dealing with it...) Does your computers on same network? if so, the whole profile can be shared , not only bookmarks :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure? Thank you. My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly made the organizational effort worthwhile. Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors! The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't get started dealing with it...) One more tip -- I now have my first-tier folder structure 'sorta' follow the way I organize files on my hard drive. Not that I used a brilliant method there either, but since I've gotten used to it over time, it made sense to mirror it with my bookmark folder structure. Now when I try to find something, at least I have only ONE idiosyncratic system to decipher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure? Thank you. My bookmarks date back that far too! Since bookmarks go out of date so quickly, I never bothered organizing them much until I discovered the ability to sync bookmarks between my computers. Access to my bookmarks from anywhere suddenly made the organizational effort worthwhile. Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors! The real key to being a well-organized soul is first establishing a limited number of first-tier folders that work for YOU, before worrying too much about subfolders. (I give this patient advice to my long-suffering spouse, to little avail -- at heart she's as compulsively organized as I am, but she's so overwhelmed by her current mess of a bookmark collection that she just can't get started dealing with it...) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
On 08/23/2020 04:22 PM, EE wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA You can use cut & paste. Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste. *ROFL* ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure? Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA You can use cut & paste. Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
"Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey