Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-27 Thread NoOp 
On 02/27/2012 02:48 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:45:48 -0800, NoOp wrote:
>>> More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2):
>>>
>>> - Troubleshooting
>>>goes to:
>>>
>>>(404 - but you can download Firefox from that page)
> 
> Right. We need to discuss what we want to link instead. Ideally a page 
> that already exists, contains good information, and can be maintained 
> easily. See the bug linked below for initial suggestions.
> 
>>> - PluginDoc
>>>goes to:
>>>
>>>(Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader
>>> 7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.)
> 
> Needs to be changed to http://www.mozilla.org/plugincheck/.
> 
>> Please file a bug to cover all the outdated links you've found. Thanks.
> 
> I added a comment here:
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Jens
> 

Thanks Jens.

Gary

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-27 Thread Jens Hatlak 

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:45:48 -0800, NoOp wrote:

More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2):

- Troubleshooting
   goes to:
   
   (404 - but you can download Firefox from that page)


Right. We need to discuss what we want to link instead. Ideally a page 
that already exists, contains good information, and can be maintained 
easily. See the bug linked below for initial suggestions.



- PluginDoc
   goes to:
   
   (Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader
7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.)


Needs to be changed to http://www.mozilla.org/plugincheck/.


Please file a bug to cover all the outdated links you've found. Thanks.


I added a comment here:


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Chee 
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:45:48 -0800, NoOp wrote:
> On 02/26/2012 03:21 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:07:33 +, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>>> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
>>> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
>>> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
>>> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
>>> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
>>> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
>>> not only does the latter proudly state :
>>> 
 MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
>> 
>> I suppose we should re-point this to:
>> 
> 
> More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2):
> 
> - Troubleshooting
>   goes to:
>   
>   (404 - but you can download Firefox from that page)
> 
> - PluginDoc
>   goes to:
>   
>   (Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader
>7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.)
> ...

Please file a bug to cover all the outdated links you've found. Thanks.

Phil

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread NoOp 
On 02/26/2012 03:21 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:07:33 +, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
>> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
>> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
>> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
>> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
>> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
>> not only does the latter proudly state :
>> 
>>> MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
> 
> I suppose we should re-point this to:
> 

More in: Help|Help Contents (SM 2.7.2):

- Troubleshooting
  goes to:
  
  (404 - but you can download Firefox from that page)

- PluginDoc
  goes to:
  
  (Which was helpful in it's time... but still refers to Adobe Reader
   7.0, JRE 1.4.2 etc.)
...
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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Chee 
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:40:12 -0500, WLS wrote:
> On 02/26/2012 05:07 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
>> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
>> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
>> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
>> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
>> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
>> not only does the latter proudly state :
>> 
>>> MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
>> 
> 
> It has? I participate there daily. The server could have been down, it
> does that often.

This refers to the News Portal page on the Mozillazine site. It's -
let's say - rather defunct.

>> but it then goes on to say :
>> 
>>> Download Google Chrome
>>> A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
>>> www.google.com/chrome
>> 
> 
> Install the Adblock Plus extension and you won't see that.

It's Google Adwords and as you know, Bob, Google has been very agressive
in pushing Chrome everywhere.

Phil

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread WLS 
On 02/26/2012 08:40 AM, WLS wrote:
> On 02/26/2012 05:07 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
>> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
>> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
>> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
>> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
>> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
>> not only does the latter proudly state :
>>
>>> MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
>>
> 
> It has? I participate there daily. The server could have been down, it
> does that often.
> 
>> but it then goes on to say :
>>
>>> Download Google Chrome
>>> A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
>>> www.google.com/chrome
>>
> 
> Install the Adblock Plus extension and you won't see that.
> 
> 
> 

Update, just started SeaMonkey with a temporary profile, and see the
MozillaZine news site results you get. It is the MozillaZine Support
site I visit daily, and all those links on the news page are active.

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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread WLS 
On 02/26/2012 05:07 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
> not only does the latter proudly state :
> 
>> MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.
> 

It has? I participate there daily. The server could have been down, it
does that often.

> but it then goes on to say :
> 
>> Download Google Chrome
>> A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
>> www.google.com/chrome
> 

Install the Adblock Plus extension and you won't see that.



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Re: Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread Philip Chee 
On Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:07:33 +, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
> been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
> Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
> the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
> followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
> to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
> not only does the latter proudly state :
> 
>> MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.

I suppose we should re-point this to:


> but it then goes on to say :
> 
>> Download Google Chrome
>> A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
>> www.google.com/chrome
> 
> Are the Seamonkey developers really trying to commit corporate 
> suicide ?!  Why on earth does an /ex nihilo/ installation of
> Seamonkey contain a very obvious link to a site that is not
> only moribund but which contains an advertisement for an
> alternative browser ?



"Established in 1998, MozillaZine is an independent Mozilla news,
community and advocacy site.

MozillaZine is not run by the Mozilla Foundation and is not an official
part of the Mozilla project.

MozillaZine is hosted at the Open Source Lab at Oregon State University."

> Philip Taylor

Another Phil

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Inappropriate default links for Seamonkey ex nihilo installation ?

2012-02-26 Thread Philip TAYLOR 

This is a "new build" system, and Seamonkey has
been installed /ex nihilo/ within the last month.
Tidying things up today, I decided to investigage
the default links that Seamonkey provides, and
followed the link first to "mozdev.org" and then
to "mozillaZine".  I was staggered to find that
not only does the latter proudly state :


MozillaZine's news site has gone into hibernation.


but it then goes on to say :


Download Google Chrome
A free browser that lets you do more online. Download instantly!
www.google.com/chrome


Are the Seamonkey developers really trying to commit corporate 
suicide ?!  Why on earth does an /ex nihilo/ installation of

Seamonkey contain a very obvious link to a site that is not
only moribund but which contains an advertisement for an
alternative browser ?

Philip Taylor
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