Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-03 Thread Rick Merrill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

S. Beaulieu wrote:


Rick Merrill a écrit :


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?


Because then you have to fill in all the other info for all the
addresses rather than doing it just once. (Why? Because you don't want
to have to labour through a dozen addies to find just the one that has
all the relevant info...)

I do agree that it would be an improvement to be able to add more than
two emails per contact.


I just did a quick test of SM's ability to handle two address book
entries with the same name. I created two separate entries in the same
address book:
First: Paul
Last: Test
Display: Paul Test
Nickname: test1
Email: whate...@wherever.com
and
First: Paul
Last: Test
Display: Paul Test
Nickname: test2
Email: where...@whatever.com

SM didn't notice I had two entries with the same name and didn't complain.

Then I tried addressing a new message. If I entered "Paul Test" in the
To: field, SM offered both options, and I could select one. But if I
entered "test1" or "test2," those nicknames were unique and SM just
accepted them without problem.

I agree that it would be cumbersome to sync the two entries if there
were much more data. But as far as I can tell, the names themselves need
not be distinct for the program's purposes.

FWIW



The 'second' entry need only have a first name
and the #2 email address (not all the other data).

On the other hand I can see that if you export the list
and use that as a data base this work-around might be inconvenient .


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-02 Thread Ant

On 12/1/2010 10:50 PM PT, Eric typed:


Although I've been a sometime sharp critic ... let me say, Robert, I am
incredibly appreciative of the SeaMonkey devs' efforts.

If we didn't love you we wouldn't yell at you! :-D Well, that's what I
wish my wife would tell me.

But, I do understand: Scant resources and many issues and plans.

We appreciate you all. Hang in there. You have an audience, an avid
audience, and we're all applauding every new effort.

Thank you.


Seconded and I would imagine (HOPE) that this would be unanimous
throughout the Seamonkey users. Thank you Robert and All the Dev's and
beta testers of the Seamonkey Project.


Ditto. :)


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-01 Thread Eric

Ed Mullen wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ant schrieb:




Although I've been a sometime sharp critic ... let me say, Robert, I am
incredibly appreciative of the SeaMonkey devs' efforts.

If we didn't love you we wouldn't yell at you! :-D Well, that's what I
wish my wife would tell me.

But, I do understand: Scant resources and many issues and plans.

We appreciate you all. Hang in there. You have an audience, an avid
audience, and we're all applauding every new effort.

Thank you.


Seconded and I would imagine (HOPE) that this would be unanimous 
throughout the Seamonkey users.  Thank you Robert and All the Dev's and 
beta testers of the Seamonkey Project.


HIP HIP

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-01 Thread Ed Mullen

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Ant schrieb:

Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(


Oh, there are tons of plans, but too little work force.


Although I've been a sometime sharp critic ... let me say, Robert, I am 
incredibly appreciative of the SeaMonkey devs' efforts.


If we didn't love you we wouldn't yell at you!  :-D  Well, that's what I 
wish my wife would tell me.


But, I do understand:  Scant resources and many issues and plans.

We appreciate you all.  Hang in there.  You have an audience, an avid 
audience, and we're all applauding every new effort.


Thank you.


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-01 Thread Ant
On Dec 1, 10:25 am, Robert Kaiser  wrote:
>
> > Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(
>
> Oh, there are tons of plans, but too little work force.

Ah. I would help but I don't do programming/coding/software
engineering and don't have much free time these days. :(
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-12-01 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ant schrieb:

Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(


Oh, there are tons of plans, but too little work force.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2010 8:57 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed:

Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant
wants to
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
SM's address book.


Why not just give the person an alias?


That's what i do - put a dot at the nd of the display name for the
home (vs work) address.


Do you have examples/samples?


i THINK he means use


jim for one address / user

jim. for other address, same person.


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2010 9:07 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed:


In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses?


Unfortunately, no. The address book would need a really huge rewrite to
be in compliance with modern requirements, but things in mail/news land
tend to go very slowly.


Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?

e.g.

Jim Beam - home email
Jim.Beam - business email


I like having one name for all the e-mail addresses and other datas. I 
don't want to have multiple smiliar like that.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:41:21 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Ant schrieb:
>> In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
>> "Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
>> more "Email" for more addresses?
> 
> Unfortunately, no. The address book would need a really huge rewrite to 
> be in compliance with modern requirements, but things in mail/news land 
> tend to go very slowly.

Well it's not compeletely their fault. Every now and then jcranmer looks
into modernizing the address book code, and when he does you can see him
repeatedly banging his head on the keyboard in #maildev and cursing
away. That code is really ancient and gnarly and really needs to be
rewritten from scratch.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

S. Beaulieu wrote:


Rick Merrill a écrit :


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?


Because then you have to fill in all the other info for all the
addresses rather than doing it just once. (Why? Because you don't want
to have to labour through a dozen addies to find just the one that has
all the relevant info...)

I do agree that it would be an improvement to be able to add more than
two emails per contact.


I just did a quick test of SM's ability to handle two address book 
entries with the same name. I created two separate entries in the same 
address book:

First: Paul
Last: Test
Display: Paul Test
Nickname: test1
Email: whate...@wherever.com
and
First: Paul
Last: Test
Display: Paul Test
Nickname: test2
Email: where...@whatever.com

SM didn't notice I had two entries with the same name and didn't complain.

Then I tried addressing a new message. If I entered "Paul Test" in the 
To: field, SM offered both options, and I could select one. But if I 
entered "test1" or "test2," those nicknames were unique and SM just 
accepted them without problem.


I agree that it would be cumbersome to sync the two entries if there 
were much more data. But as far as I can tell, the names themselves need 
not be distinct for the program's purposes.


FWIW

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread S. Beaulieu

Rick Merrill a écrit :


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?


Because then you have to fill in all the other info for all the 
addresses rather than doing it just once. (Why? Because you don't want 
to have to labour through a dozen addies to find just the one that has 
all the relevant info...)


I do agree that it would be an improvement to be able to add more than 
two emails per contact.


S.
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Rick Merrill

Ant wrote:

On 11/30/2010 7:41 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:


In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses?


Unfortunately, no. The address book would need a really huge rewrite to
be in compliance with modern requirements, but things in mail/news land
tend to go very slowly.


Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(


What do you find unsatisfactory about putting the same user
in the address book with slightly different name?

e.g.

Jim Beam - home email
Jim.Beam - business email


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Rick Merrill

Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2010 2:09 PM PT, JohnW-Mpls typed:


Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
SM's address book.


Why not just give the person an alias?


That's what i do - put a dot at the nd of the display name for the
home (vs work) address.


Do you have examples/samples?


i THINK he means use


jimfor one address / user

jim.   for other address, same person.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2010 7:41 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:


In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses?


Unfortunately, no. The address book would need a really huge rewrite to
be in compliance with modern requirements, but things in mail/news land
tend to go very slowly.


Bummer. And no plans to change/improve it I assume. :(
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ant schrieb:

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses?


Unfortunately, no. The address book would need a really huge rewrite to 
be in compliance with modern requirements, but things in mail/news land 
tend to go very slowly.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote:

On 11/29/2010 2:36 PM PT, Gerald Ross typed:


I don't know your needs and am just an old Geezer, but for me it would
be easier to have different entries for each email address.
For example John Jones Home, John Jones Office,John Jones factory, John
Jones girlfriend, etc. Then when you hit "J" SM will show a list and
just pick the one you want. If you want to send the same message to all
the addresses, Put them in a subdirectory or whatever you call it, then
just point to the subdirectory and the email will be sent to all the
addresses. I have that sort of list for my family members.


Ah, I see what's you're saying. I prefer to have all that in one
contact. :/


I think is not possible. You speak about "one contact" ... This is not a 
"contact adress book", but a "mail-adress adress book". In other word 
the uniqueness is not a contact name, but a mail-adress; and a 
mail-adress cannot have two mail adresses.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2010 5:12 AM PT, Smiles typed:


I don't know your needs and am just an old Geezer, but for me it would
be easier to have different entries for each email address.
For example John Jones Home, John Jones Office,John Jones factory, John
Jones girlfriend, etc. Then when you hit "J" SM will show a list and
just pick the one you want. If you want to send the same message to all
the addresses, Put them in a subdirectory or whatever you call it, then
just point to the subdirectory and the email will be sent to all the
addresses. I have that sort of list for my family members.

>

Good day


Good day to you too! ;)



this is what I do
I have one client with twelve emails, so I have David head office, david
eastgate, david home, david mobile ect

It has its advantages I know where he is working most of the time


Yeah, I see how that works. I was hoping one contact with all of those 
inside. Oh well. Current SM2 doesn't have that. Maybe future versions 
will? Thanks all.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Smiles

Gerald Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(



I don't know your needs and am just an old Geezer, but for me it would
be easier to have different entries for each email address.
For example John Jones Home, John Jones Office,John Jones factory, John
Jones girlfriend, etc. Then when you hit "J" SM will show a list and
just pick the one you want. If you want to send the same message to all
the addresses, Put them in a subdirectory or whatever you call it, then
just point to the subdirectory and the email will be sent to all the
addresses. I have that sort of list for my family members.

Good day

this is what I do
I have one client with twelve emails, so I have David head office, david 
eastgate, david home, david mobile ect


It has its advantages I know where he is working most of the time
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/29/2010 2:09 PM PT, JohnW-Mpls typed:


Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
SM's address book.


Why not just give the person an alias?


That's what i do - put a dot at the nd of the display name for the
home (vs work) address.


Do you have examples/samples?
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/29/2010 2:36 PM PT, Gerald Ross typed:


I don't know your needs and am just an old Geezer, but for me it would
be easier to have different entries for each email address.
For example John Jones Home, John Jones Office,John Jones factory, John
Jones girlfriend, etc. Then when you hit "J" SM will show a list and
just pick the one you want. If you want to send the same message to all
the addresses, Put them in a subdirectory or whatever you call it, then
just point to the subdirectory and the email will be sent to all the
addresses. I have that sort of list for my family members.


Ah, I see what's you're saying. I prefer to have all that in one contact. :/
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/29/2010 12:46 PM PT, S. Beaulieu typed:


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email


Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
SM's address book.


Thank you. And why did "user" post replies twice? A troll?
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/29/2010 12:33 PM PT, u...@domain.invalid typed:


Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email

...
...
...


Huh?
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread Gerald Ross

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(



I don't know your needs and am just an old Geezer, but for me it would 
be easier to have different entries for each email address.
For example John Jones Home, John Jones Office,John Jones factory, 
John Jones girlfriend, etc. Then when you hit "J" SM will show a list 
and just pick the one you want. If you want to send the same message 
to all the addresses, Put them in a subdirectory or whatever you call 
it, then just point to the subdirectory and the email will be sent to 
all the addresses. I have that sort of list for my family members.

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Cochran, GA

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:39:16 -0500, Rick Merrill
 wrote:

>S. Beaulieu wrote:
>> u...@domain.invalid a écrit :
>>> Ant wrote:
 Hi!

 In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
 "Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
 more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
 e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
 Others' Notes section. :(

 Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>> login to company a, apply for email
>>> login to company b, apply for email
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
>> know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
>> SM's address book.
>>
>> S.
>
>Why not just give the person an alias?

That's what i do - put a dot at the nd of the display name for the
home (vs work) address.

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread Rick Merrill

S. Beaulieu wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email




Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in
SM's address book.

S.


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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread S. Beaulieu

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email




Hum, no. That's absolutely not what the question is about. Ant wants to 
know how to add more than two email addresses for a single person in 
SM's address book.


S.
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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread user

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email

...
...
...

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Re: Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread user

Ant wrote:

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like
Others' Notes section. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


login to company a, apply for email
login to company b, apply for email

...
...
...

b



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Is there a way to get more than two email addresses in SM2's address books?

2010-11-29 Thread Ant

Hi!

In SM2's current address books, I could enter two e-mail addresses for 
"Email" and "Additional Email" for each contact. Is there a way to add 
more "Email" for more addresses? Some contacts have way more than two 
e-mail addresses so I had to put the extras into the extras forms like 
Others' Notes section. :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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