Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-05 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ant wrote:

On 8/2/2011 8:16 AM PT, Bill Davidsen typed:


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an
address
between address books.


$#!+... is there no move feature at all anymore??


As I said in the next paragraph, the fix will be in a future release,
but there will not be a 2.2.1 bugfix release. But you are correct, at
this time move doesn't work.


Any idea what version it will have this feature? I also use this. :(


I'm told it's in the beta2. Not currently tracking daily/beta, time = 0

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-04 Thread Ant

On 8/2/2011 8:16 AM PT, Bill Davidsen typed:


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


$#!+... is there no move feature at all anymore??


As I said in the next paragraph, the fix will be in a future release,
but there will not be a 2.2.1 bugfix release. But you are correct, at
this time move doesn't work.


Any idea what version it will have this feature? I also use this. :(
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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-02 Thread Bill Davidsen

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it? Second, do the developers agree that
this is a bug?

A distribution list is a subset of addresses, and if you delete an
address from the address book I think it's correct to delete it from
the
list. *But* not the other way around. Just because someone no longer
belongs on a list like a task force or committee, they shouldn't cease
to exist!


Agreed.

If SM is behaving as described, here's a first stab at a workaround
pending a bug fix:

1) Drag the recipient out of the list to a different /address book/.
This should delete him/her from the original AB as well as the list.
Verify deletion from first AB and list and presence in second AB.

2) Drag the recipient from the other AB back to the original AB (not to
the list). This should restore him/her to the original AB but not to the
list. Verify deletion from second AB and presence in first AB but
absence from list.


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


$#!+... is there no move feature at all anymore??

As I said in the next paragraph, the fix will be in a future release, but there 
will not be a 2.2.1 bugfix release. But you are correct, at this time move 
doesn't work.



I stopped trying nightly and beta releases when it was announced that it
will be fixed in a future release rather than a 2.2.1 fix. I might
like new features, but I can't justify doing QA on every feature which
is needed for daily use. From what I read here it sounds like address
book is more broken not less.


Sounds like it to me, too.




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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-02 Thread Bill Davidsen

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.


(...)


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


I suggest you actually read what I write or I can just as well stop
explaining things before they are announced officially.

The next paragraph (which you trimmed) said it would be fixed in a future 
release and there would be no 2.2.1 release. If that conflicts with what you 
said the fault is mine. If you were not amused by my joke about protected 
against accidentally moving an address, that's a matter of taste, I didn't feel 
that with the following paragraph it needed a smiley to be obvious.


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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-02 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2011 03:07 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 07/30/2011 08:06 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Alex wrote:
 With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between
 different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?
 
 Will be fixed in SM 2.3.
 
 HTH
 
 Jens
 
 
 Not working in 2.3B1:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110724
 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3

Works in 2.3b2 - thanks!

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-01 Thread Ray_Net

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it?


No, because all bugs i have submitted are still not fixed someones for 
yearS.


My last submission
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 have received a 
recognition that it is a bug -see hereafter-

jay garcia 2011-06-30 08:57:25 PDT
I can confirm this as I can duplicate the bug 100%.

Do you think that the status will change for years other than;
Assigned To:Nobody; OK to take it and work on it

I think that the answer is NO.


S Second, do the developers agree that
  this is a bug?

If you delete an adress out of the adressbook, it's normal that it is 
also delete out of any distribution list where it appears.
BUT, it's certainly a bug if deleting from a distribution list, it 
dissapear completey...

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-01 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ray_Net wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it?


No, because all bugs i have submitted are still not fixed someones for
yearS.

My last submission
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668504 have received a
recognition that it is a bug -see hereafter-
jay garcia 2011-06-30 08:57:25 PDT
I can confirm this as I can duplicate the bug 100%.

Some bugs take longer than others to fix, I agree, there are two things that get 
a bug fixed quickly, (1) it effects many users who complain constantly about it, 
or (2) it effects at least one developer who then has a personal stake in the fix.



Do you think that the status will change for years other than;
Assigned To: Nobody; OK to take it and work on it

I think that the answer is NO.

I'm sure that eventually someone will change status to NOTABUG and maybe try to 
explain why. I agree that it will not get fixed, but since the problem with the 
address book is actually an error, it would be worth sending a bug while it's in 
beta. Once it becomes a released version it's not a new bug and doesn't fall 
under the beta resources, so get the bug report in now!


S Second, do the developers agree that
  this is a bug?

If you delete an adress out of the adressbook, it's normal that it is
also delete out of any distribution list where it appears.
BUT, it's certainly a bug if deleting from a distribution list, it
dissapear completey...


It doesn't matter if the users think it's a bug, it only matters that developers 
agree it's unintended behavior. If they *want* it to work that way it's just 
another unfortunate design decision.


So report the bug against beta, while there actually are resources to fix it, 
unless it's in TBird code, in which case it will not be fixed.


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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it? Second, do the developers agree that
this is a bug?

A distribution list is a subset of addresses, and if you delete an
address from the address book I think it's correct to delete it from the
list. *But* not the other way around. Just because someone no longer
belongs on a list like a task force or committee, they shouldn't cease
to exist!


Agreed.

If SM is behaving as described, here's a first stab at a workaround
pending a bug fix:

1) Drag the recipient out of the list to a different /address book/.
This should delete him/her from the original AB as well as the list.
Verify deletion from first AB and list and presence in second AB.

2) Drag the recipient from the other AB back to the original AB (not to
the list). This should restore him/her to the original AB but not to the
list. Verify deletion from second AB and presence in first AB but
absence from list.


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


$#!+... is there no move feature at all anymore??


I stopped trying nightly and beta releases when it was announced that it
will be fixed in a future release rather than a 2.2.1 fix. I might
like new features, but I can't justify doing QA on every feature which
is needed for daily use. From what I read here it sounds like address
book is more broken not less.


Sounds like it to me, too.

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-01 Thread Jens Hatlak

Bill Davidsen wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.


(...)


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


I suggest you actually read what I write or I can just as well stop 
explaining things before they are announced officially.


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-08-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.


(...)


Unfortunately drag and drop in the address book doesn't work, either,
starting in 2.2 you are protected against accidentally moving an address
between address books.


I suggest you actually read what I write or I can just as well stop
explaining things before they are announced officially.


If you want to be snippy, you can aim it at me. It was my mistake. Bill 
was just correcting me.


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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-31 Thread Ray_Net

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?
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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-31 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it? Second, do the developers agree that this is a 
bug?

A distribution list is a subset of addresses, and if you delete an address from 
the address book I think it's correct to delete it from the list. *But* not the 
other way around. Just because someone no longer belongs on a list like a task 
force or committee, they shouldn't cease to exist!


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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/30/2011 08:06 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Alex wrote:
 With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between
 different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?
 
 Will be fixed in SM 2.3.
 
 HTH
 
 Jens
 

Not working in 2.3B1:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110724
Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3

From the Help:
Adding Entries to Your Address
  Books

You can use any of the following ways to add entries to your address
  books:
...
  In the Address Book window, copy entries to another address book by
  selecting the entries and dragging them over the name of the address
book you want to copy them to.

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-31 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

upscope wrote:

On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1)


Will this bug also corrected/fixed in SM 2.3 ?


First, did you file a bug on it? Second, do the developers agree that
this is a bug?

A distribution list is a subset of addresses, and if you delete an
address from the address book I think it's correct to delete it from the
list. *But* not the other way around. Just because someone no longer
belongs on a list like a task force or committee, they shouldn't cease
to exist!


Agreed.

If SM is behaving as described, here's a first stab at a workaround 
pending a bug fix:


1) Drag the recipient out of the list to a different /address book/. 
This should delete him/her from the original AB as well as the list. 
Verify deletion from first AB and list and presence in second AB.


2) Drag the recipient from the other AB back to the original AB (not to 
the list). This should restore him/her to the original AB but not to the 
list. Verify deletion from second AB and presence in first AB but 
absence from list.


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Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-30 Thread Alex
With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between 
different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Thank you, Alex
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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-30 Thread Jens Hatlak

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between
different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens

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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-30 Thread Alex

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Alex wrote:

With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts between
different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?


Will be fixed in SM 2.3.

HTH

Jens


Thank you. Alex
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Re: Moving contacts between address books

2011-07-30 Thread upscope
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 08:06:01 AM Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Alex wrote:
  With SM2.2 I found that I'm not able to move individual contacts
  between different address books. Is there a fix for this issue?
 
 Will be fixed in SM 2.3.
 
 HTH
 
 Jens
It also deletes contacts in the personal addressbook when you delete 
them from a distribution list. (SM2.2.1) 
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