Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:11:06 -0800, /NoOp/: On 11/11/2009 01:10 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:29:50 -0600, /JD/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway... I have a similar problem with one online credit card site. It doesn't let anything be remembered... Please note again the problem I'm prescribing is not about remembering the password - just about its automatic prefill. It won't work unless the username/password it valid. Try another example using a *valid* username/password. Why would SM remember a username/password that failed? Please read the whole thread. I've already pointed out I have a valid username/password stored. SM would remember a username/password that failed because in most of the cases it doesn't understand they are not valid. Note in the example steps I've given the invalid username/password get stored without problem, too. It is just that they don't get prefilled. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:11:06 -0800, /NoOp/: On 11/11/2009 01:10 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:29:50 -0600, /JD/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway... I have a similar problem with one online credit card site. It doesn't let anything be remembered... Please note again the problem I'm prescribing is not about remembering the password - just about its automatic prefill. It won't work unless the username/password it valid. Try another example using a *valid* username/password. Why would SM remember a username/password that failed? Please read the whole thread. I've already pointed out I have a valid username/password stored. SM would remember a username/password that failed because in most of the cases it doesn't understand they are not valid. Note in the example steps I've given the invalid username/password get stored without problem, too. It is just that they don't get prefilled. You've probably already tried it but... I have several pages that don't prefill and don't prelaunch the master password prompt, until I type in a field. Then the master password popup interrupts... annoying. On some pages, nothing prefills but double clicking in the box fills or offers multiple choices. Once selected, the associated password is filled. I have had to go in and remove stored info for pages and enter again after, I assume, the page had been modified/updated/upgraded/etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:59:40 -0500, /Phillip Jones/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Unfortunately remembering passwords has nothing to do with the issue. My password is remeberred just fine and I can see it in the Password Manager. It is just not prefilled into the page which is a result of transformation of XML to HTML. And yes, you have to understand what that transformation means. Exactly. you have to type the first two or three letters for the Username to pop in. and then the Password will pop in (hidden with the dots of course). That does not happen. The user name is auto-completed (if I have ever entered it, as after the migration to SM 2.0 I've got no user auto-complete initially) but no password is prefilled. Just try for yourself. Go to: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ (there's an English version link in the top-right, if that helps) Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway. Open the Password Manager and observe they are really stored. Now open the given URL, again. No user or pass are prefilled. Press down-arrow in the user field and select foo from the auto-complete list. No password is prefilled again. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Stanimir Stamenkov schrieb: That does not happen. The user name is auto-completed (if I have ever entered it, as after the migration to SM 2.0 I've got no user auto-complete initially) but no password is prefilled. Just try for yourself. Go to: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ (there's an English version link in the top-right, if that helps) Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway. Open the Password Manager and observe they are really stored. Now open the given URL, again. No user or pass are prefilled. Press down-arrow in the user field and select foo from the auto-complete list. No password is prefilled again. uh, confirmed, maybe you should consider filing a bug on that on bugzilla. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Martin Freitag wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov schrieb: That does not happen. The user name is auto-completed (if I have ever entered it, as after the migration to SM 2.0 I've got no user auto-complete initially) but no password is prefilled. Just try for yourself. Go to: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ (there's an English version link in the top-right, if that helps) Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway. Open the Password Manager and observe they are really stored. Now open the given URL, again. No user or pass are prefilled. Press down-arrow in the user field and select foo from the auto-complete list. No password is prefilled again. uh, confirmed, maybe you should consider filing a bug on that on bugzilla. regards Martin Is it possible that SM noted that the site didn't accept the username/password so SM does not automatically offer the combination?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:59:40 -0500, /Phillip Jones/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Unfortunately remembering passwords has nothing to do with the issue. My password is remeberred just fine and I can see it in the Password Manager. It is just not prefilled into the page which is a result of transformation of XML to HTML. And yes, you have to understand what that transformation means. Exactly. you have to type the first two or three letters for the Username to pop in. and then the Password will pop in (hidden with the dots of course). That does not happen. The user name is auto-completed (if I have ever entered it, as after the migration to SM 2.0 I've got no user auto-complete initially) but no password is prefilled. Just try for yourself. Go to: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ (there's an English version link in the top-right, if that helps) Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway. Open the Password Manager and observe they are really stored. Now open the given URL, again. No user or pass are prefilled. Press down-arrow in the user field and select foo from the auto-complete list. No password is prefilled again. I have a similar problem with one online credit card site. It doesn't let anything be remembered. I did the hack described here http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ and it helped with some other web signins but had no effect on the credit card. https://www.pnccardservicesonline.com/default.aspx I tried the bookmarklet and it said I would be ask if I wanted to save the entries but it never did ask. There is a little lock on that signon web page so it appears to be working too well. 8-) -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Phillip Jones wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:43:56 -0800, /clay/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706 is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs. fwiw, this hack: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw. No idea if it's a 'transformed' document... Unfortunately remembering passwords has nothing to do with the issue. My password is remeberred just fine and I can see it in the Password Manager. It is just not prefilled into the page which is a result of transformation of XML to HTML. And yes, you have to understand what that transformation means. Exactly. you have to type the first two or three letters for the Username to pop in. and then the Password will pop in (hidden with the dots of course). If you could remember the username you made up for the site you could probably remember the password without help, too. ;-) The idea is that given the prompt and the site you are free to make up usernames and passwords, which no one (even you) is likely to guess. :-( -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:29:50 -0600, /JD/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway... I have a similar problem with one online credit card site. It doesn't let anything be remembered... Please note again the problem I'm prescribing is not about remembering the password - just about its automatic prefill. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:49:40 +0100, /Martin Freitag/: Stanimir Stamenkov schrieb: Just try for yourself. Go to: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ (there's an English version link in the top-right, if that helps) Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway. Open the Password Manager and observe they are really stored. Now open the given URL, again. No user or pass are prefilled. Press down-arrow in the user field and select foo from the auto-complete list. No password is prefilled again. uh, confirmed, maybe you should consider filing a bug on that on bugzilla. I've already posted a reference to the relevant Bugzilla report (opened two years ago) previously in the thread, but here it again for later reference: Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706 -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
On 11/11/2009 01:10 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:29:50 -0600, /JD/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Enter foo for username and bar for password. The system will respond they are invalid but Firefox/SeaMonkey will offer you to store them, anyway... I have a similar problem with one online credit card site. It doesn't let anything be remembered... Please note again the problem I'm prescribing is not about remembering the password - just about its automatic prefill. It won't work unless the username/password it valid. Try another example using a *valid* username/password. Why would SM remember a username/password that failed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
clay wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:52:43 +0200, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: I've noticed saved passwords are not pre-filled into transformed documents using Firefox 3.5 and SeaMonkey 2.0, while this worked just fine with the Password Manager of SeaMonkey 1.1 (and I guess with Firefox 2). I've encountered this with my bank's online banking service: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ They serve up XML content providing an XSLT xml-stylesheet which generates the HTML output in the browser (client-side). Is anyone aware of Bugzilla entry or something regarding this issue? Thinking more, Firefox 2.0 already had a reworked password manager and short search into the Mozilla Bugzilla appeared: Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706 is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs. fwiw, this hack: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw. No idea if it's a 'transformed' document... Great hack! Also works in Seamonkey 2 particularly for financial institution log-ins. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Arnie Goetchius wrote: clay wrote: fwiw, this hack: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw. No idea if it's a 'transformed' document... Great hack! Also works in Seamonkey 2 particularly for financial institution log-ins. W4M with SM2 and Citibank, when the bookmarklets didn't. Thanks a ton! -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
clay wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:52:43 +0200, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
I've noticed saved passwords are not pre-filled into transformed
documents using Firefox 3.5 and SeaMonkey 2.0, while this worked just
fine with the Password Manager of SeaMonkey 1.1 (and I guess with
Firefox 2). I've encountered this with my bank's online banking
service:
https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/
They serve up XML content providing an XSLT xml-stylesheet which
generates the HTML output in the browser (client-side).
Is anyone aware of Bugzilla entry or something regarding this issue?
Thinking more, Firefox 2.0 already had a reworked password manager and
short search into the Mozilla Bugzilla appeared:
Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706
is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad
SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs.
fwiw, this hack:
http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/
Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw.
No idea if it's a 'transformed' document...
Great hack! Also works in Seamonkey 2 particularly for financial
institution log-ins.
Did I set it up correctly?
_isAutocompleteDisabled : function (element) {
if (element element.hasAttribute(autocomplete)
element.getAttribute(autocomplete).toLowerCase() == off)
return false;
return false;
I ask because it doesn't work for the PNC signon:
https://www.pnccardservicesonline.com/default.aspx
I saved the file with the change and restarted SM2.
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Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
JD wrote:
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
clay wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:52:43 +0200, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
I've noticed saved passwords are not pre-filled into transformed
documents using Firefox 3.5 and SeaMonkey 2.0, while this worked just
fine with the Password Manager of SeaMonkey 1.1 (and I guess with
Firefox 2). I've encountered this with my bank's online banking
service:
https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/
They serve up XML content providing an XSLT xml-stylesheet which
generates the HTML output in the browser (client-side).
Is anyone aware of Bugzilla entry or something regarding this issue?
Thinking more, Firefox 2.0 already had a reworked password manager and
short search into the Mozilla Bugzilla appeared:
Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706
is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad
SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs.
fwiw, this hack:
http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/
Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw.
No idea if it's a 'transformed' document...
Great hack! Also works in Seamonkey 2 particularly for financial
institution log-ins.
Did I set it up correctly?
_isAutocompleteDisabled : function (element) {
if (element element.hasAttribute(autocomplete)
element.getAttribute(autocomplete).toLowerCase() == off)
return false;
return false;
I ask because it doesn't work for the PNC signon:
https://www.pnccardservicesonline.com/default.aspx
I saved the file with the change and restarted SM2.
I did it just by commenting out the entire if statement, like this:
_isAutocompleteDisabled : function (element) {
/*
if (element element.hasAttribute(autocomplete)
element.getAttribute(autocomplete).toLowerCase() == off)
return true;
*/
return false;
The idea is to always return false. You could also just _delete_ the
entire if statement, but I was going for minimal and reversible. -JW
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Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:43:56 -0800, /clay/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706 is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs. fwiw, this hack: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw. No idea if it's a 'transformed' document... Unfortunately remembering passwords has nothing to do with the issue. My password is remeberred just fine and I can see it in the Password Manager. It is just not prefilled into the page which is a result of transformation of XML to HTML. And yes, you have to understand what that transformation means. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:43:56 -0800, /clay/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Logins not filled in on XML+XSLT page https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354706 is initially reported against Firefox 2.0 (two years ago). Too bad SeaMonkey 2 has to inherit such longstanding Firefox bugs. fwiw, this hack: http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/ Made Firefox remember my bank's (Wells Fargo) login/pw. No idea if it's a 'transformed' document... Unfortunately remembering passwords has nothing to do with the issue. My password is remeberred just fine and I can see it in the Password Manager. It is just not prefilled into the page which is a result of transformation of XML to HTML. And yes, you have to understand what that transformation means. Exactly. you have to type the first two or three letters for the Username to pop in. and then the Password will pop in (hidden with the dots of course). -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents
I've noticed saved passwords are not pre-filled into transformed documents using Firefox 3.5 and SeaMonkey 2.0, while this worked just fine with the Password Manager of SeaMonkey 1.1 (and I guess with Firefox 2). I've encountered this with my bank's online banking service: https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/ They serve up XML content providing an XSLT xml-stylesheet which generates the HTML output in the browser (client-side). Is anyone aware of Bugzilla entry or something regarding this issue? -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
