Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-28 Thread Rob
Philip Taylor  wrote:
>
>
> Dave Royal wrote:
>
>> You can change TB's language with a language pack:
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_Default_Mozilla_Language
>>
>> I downloaded the French language pack and looked for those column names.
>> I found them in
>> chrome/fr/locale/fr/messenger/addressbook/abCardOverlay.dtd
>> eg
>> 
>>
>> So maybe you could take one of the English variant language packs, change
>> those labels, and install it - automatically.
>
> Clever.  I like it !
> Philip Taylor

The headers above the CSV export are not exactly the same as the
field labels like the one you refer to here.
However, they are translated in local language, so it should be possible
to use this approach.

Thanks! (to Dave).  I'll see if this can be used.
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Philip Taylor



Dave Royal wrote:


You can change TB's language with a language pack:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_Default_Mozilla_Language

I downloaded the French language pack and looked for those column names.
I found them in
chrome/fr/locale/fr/messenger/addressbook/abCardOverlay.dtd
eg


So maybe you could take one of the English variant language packs, change
those labels, and install it - automatically.


Clever.  I like it !
Philip Taylor
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Dave Royal
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:16:22 -0500, Rob wrote:
>
> However, Outlook then comes up with a dialog to map the column names.
> When the column names are what Outlook expects, it imports the file
> immediately.
> 
Here's an idea; I don't know whether it will work.

You can change TB's language with a language pack:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_Default_Mozilla_Language

I downloaded the French language pack and looked for those column names. 
I found them in 
chrome/fr/locale/fr/messenger/addressbook/abCardOverlay.dtd
eg


So maybe you could take one of the English variant language packs, change 
those labels, and install it - automatically.
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Keith Nuttle

On 3/27/2014 3:17 PM, Rob wrote:

Keith Nuttle  wrote:

On 3/27/2014 9:52 AM, Rob wrote:

Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:

On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:

Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
that Outlook recognizes automatically.
(so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)


Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.


Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
importing it in Outlook?

We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
performed by the users.

(some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
very computer-illiterate)



While I have not done it it is my understanding that you can set up a
shared address book in Thunderbird.   You may wish to google
"thunderbird shared address book"

A year or so ago I thought it would be nice to have one address book for
my wife and I, but for two people it was too involved and I dropped the
project..


I don's see how this is related.
Exporting the address book is a way to migrate addressbook data to
another program.

It is related in that it is a possible different way to accomplish the 
same thing

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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Rob
Keith Nuttle  wrote:
> On 3/27/2014 9:52 AM, Rob wrote:
>> Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:
>>> On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:
 Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
 export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

 We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
 be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
 that Outlook recognizes automatically.
 (so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)
>>>
>>> Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.
>>
>> Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
>> importing it in Outlook?
>>
>> We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
>> but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
>> performed by the users.
>>
>> (some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
>> very computer-illiterate)
>>
>
> While I have not done it it is my understanding that you can set up a 
> shared address book in Thunderbird.   You may wish to google 
> "thunderbird shared address book"
>
> A year or so ago I thought it would be nice to have one address book for 
> my wife and I, but for two people it was too involved and I dropped the 
> project..

I don's see how this is related.
Exporting the address book is a way to migrate addressbook data to
another program.
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Rob
Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:
> On 03/27/14 09:52, Rob wrote:
>> Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:
>>> On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:
 Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
 export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

 We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
 be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
 that Outlook recognizes automatically.
 (so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)
>>>
>>> Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.
>>
>> Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
>> importing it in Outlook?
>>
>> We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
>> but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
>> performed by the users.
>>
>> (some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
>> very computer-illiterate)
>
> Yup, most users can open a file on Excel, and click 'convert' then save.
> If you ask then to modify a file, run a script, or something else,
> they'll find a way to mess-up everything.

OF COURSE we have a single icon-to-be-clicked to start the conversion.
Much easier than to open the file in Excel.

However, it requires that the user first exports the addressbook to
a file with an exactly specified name, then click the icon for the
conversion, and then import the resulting outputfile.

It would potentially be simpler to let the user export the file to
a name of his/her own choosing and then import the file in Outlook.

However, Outlook then comes up with a dialog to map the column names.
When the column names are what Outlook expects, it imports the file
immediately.

I would expect that so many people already encountered this issue that
the column names would be configurable via a (possibly hidden) pref.

BTW, Google (GMAIL) has the same issue.
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Keith Nuttle

On 3/27/2014 9:52 AM, Rob wrote:

Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:

On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:

Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
that Outlook recognizes automatically.
(so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)


Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.


Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
importing it in Outlook?

We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
performed by the users.

(some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
very computer-illiterate)



While I have not done it it is my understanding that you can set up a 
shared address book in Thunderbird.   You may wish to google 
"thunderbird shared address book"


A year or so ago I thought it would be nice to have one address book for 
my wife and I, but for two people it was too involved and I dropped the 
project..

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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Vic Moz Garcia

On 03/27/14 09:52, Rob wrote:

Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:

On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:

Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
that Outlook recognizes automatically.
(so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)


Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.


Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
importing it in Outlook?

We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
performed by the users.

(some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
very computer-illiterate)


Yup, most users can open a file on Excel, and click 'convert' then save.
If you ask then to modify a file, run a script, or something else,
they'll find a way to mess-up everything.

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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Rob
Vic Moz Garcia  wrote:
> On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:
>> Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
>> export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?
>>
>> We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
>> be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
>> that Outlook recognizes automatically.
>> (so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)
>
> Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.

Easier to have everyone open the CSV file in Excel first before
importing it in Outlook?

We already have a simple script that performs the header change,
but we are looking for a reduction in the number of steps to be
performed by the users.

(some 350 users need to perform those steps and most of them are
very computer-illiterate)
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Re: Column headers in CSV export

2014-03-27 Thread Vic Moz Garcia

On 03/27/14 09:12, Rob wrote:

Is it possible to change the column headers above a CSV addressbook
export to user-defined values, e.g. via a pref?

We need to export many addressbooks for import in Outlook, and it would
be much more convenient when the exported CSV files have the headers
that Outlook recognizes automatically.
(so the users to not need to tell Outlook what column to map to what)


Probably easier to do it with an Excel macro.

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