Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Robert Kaiser

Barry Edwin Gilmour schrieb:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

Good.


Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.

Hartmut

GeForce 9600 GT with nvidia-drivers 195.36.24 (Barry)



Hmm, I have no issues here with the nouveau driver (GF 7600 GT).

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
Robert Kaiser:

Hmm, I have no issues here with the nouveau driver (GF 7600 GT).

Changing the driver from nvidia to nv disposes the distortion. I cannot
test nouveau without recompiling xorg-drivers and testing nouveau should
not be necessary. You have done that already.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 09:29 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
   NoOp wrote:
...
 I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio
 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
 on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the
 tinderbox link
 (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues.

 That machine has an old:
 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3
Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb

 If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia
 driver problem.

 I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening
 if I get a chance.




 Gary, Could you try a build from:-
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
 ?
 No issue from the laptop w/intel:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre)
 Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
 seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz226-Jul-2010 01:22   
  15M

 It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive
 card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04.
 Bang goes the idea that the hourlies may have fixed it, or been 
 volatile-different. Looks more and more like a proprietary-conflict, eh?

Sorry for the delay in replying... my cooking  wine was so good that I
never did go back  test last night :-)

No issues with the Sony w/3Dfx. Also fired up the other nVidia machine
this morning  tested:

$ sudo lspci -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4
900 XGL] (rev a3)
Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16
Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau

Set fonts to 20, etc., etc. and used today's builds:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100727 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

and no issues on that one either. That one has full enhanced effects
(compiz, cube, etc., etc) turned on, same as the desktop w/intel mobile
chipset.

Can you provide the output of the video section of:

$ sudo lspci -v


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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

$ sudo lspci -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4
900 XGL] (rev a3)
   Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16
   Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
   Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
   Kernel driver in use: nvidia
   Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau

Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does
you get when issuing  'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'?

h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  195.36.31  Tue Jun  1
22:08:27 PDT 2010
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2)

h...@e675 ~ $ sudo lspci -v
[...]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800
GTS] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Device 2252
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at f600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f400 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at a000 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at f700 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ?
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:
NoOp:

[...]
Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does
you get when issuing  'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'?

h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  195.36.31  Tue Jun  1
22:08:27 PDT 2010
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2)

And what about glxgears?

h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears
99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS
99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 10:23 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
$ sudo lspci -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4
900 XGL] (rev a3)
  Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16
  Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
  Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
  [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K]
  Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
  Kernel driver in use: nvidia
  Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau
 
 Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does
 you get when issuing  'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/nvidia-96
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_96.43.16.html
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
 NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  195.36.31  Tue Jun  1
 22:08:27 PDT 2010
 GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2)

$  cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  96.43.17  Thu Apr 15
05:28:41 PDT 2010
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)

 
 h...@e675 ~ $ sudo lspci -v
 [...]
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800
 GTS] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
 Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Device 2252
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
 Memory at f600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 Memory at f400 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
 I/O ports at a000 [size=128]
 [virtual] Expansion ROM at f700 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ?
 Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ?
 Kernel driver in use: nvidia
 Kernel modules: nvidia

On Ubuntu, that card would use:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/nvidia-173
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.25.html
Supported Products
GeForce 8 series:
8300 GS, 8800 GT 512, 8800 GS, 8200 / nForce 730a, 8600 GTS, 8100 /
nForce 720a, *8800 GTS*, 8800 GTX, 8400 SE, 8800 Ultra, 8500 GT, 8400,
8600 GT, 8800 GT, 8200, 8300, 8600 GS, 8400 GS

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-195.36.31-driver.html
Supported Products
GeForce 8 series:
8400, 8800 Ultra, 8300, 8500 GT, 8600 GT, 8800 GTX, 8400 GS, 8800 GS,
8800 GTS 512, 8400 SE, 8100 / nForce 720a, 8200, 8600 GS, 8300 GS, 8200
/ nForce 730a, 8600 GTS, 8800 GTS, 8800 GT

Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?


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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 10:34 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Hartmut Figge:
NoOp:
 
[...]
Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does
you get when issuing  'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'?

h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  195.36.31  Tue Jun  1
22:08:27 PDT 2010
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2)
 
 And what about glxgears?
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears
 99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS
 99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS
 
 Hartmut

Remember... its a very old NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3)

$ glxgears
7021 frames in 5.0 seconds
7310 frames in 5.0 seconds
7149 frames in 5.0 seconds

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?

I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable
version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one
if possible.

Does your driver support direct rendering?

h...@e675 ~ $ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 11:30 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?
 
 I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable
 version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one
 if possible.
 
 Does your driver support direct rendering?
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ glxinfo | grep rendering
 direct rendering: Yes

Yes - otherwise I wouldn't be able to run all the compiz bells 
whistles :-)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 11:30 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?
 
 I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable
 version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one
 if possible.

Sorry, I was wrong.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers
195.36.15-0ubuntu2
I use the 96 because of the age of my card.
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:
NoOp:

Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?

I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable
version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one
if possible.

That's interesting. With 173.14.25 glxgears drops to

h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears
68866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13770.429 FPS
68881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13776.087 FPS

and the scrolling of tinderbox is stuttering. But no distortion. It is
not possible to use 185.18.36-r1 because this one conflicts with
xorg-server-1.7. Possibly this conflicting is also true for 173.14.25
and my Gentoo simlpy hasn't noticed it. :)

195.36.24 has distortions and is the recommended stable Nvidia driver
for xorg-server-1.7. I am now again using 195.36.31.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

I use the 96 because of the age of my card.

We need more testers with different Nvidia cards and drivers. But it
seems clear that something has changed in SM 2.1 in the timeframe

2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT

which affects recent Nvidia cards with recent Nvidia drivers on Linux.

P.S.
'timeframe' is underlined by the spellchecker. Hm.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 11:57 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Hartmut Figge:
NoOp:
 
Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS
512'  should be using 173.14.25 instead?

I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable
version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one
if possible.
 
 That's interesting. With 173.14.25 glxgears drops to
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears
 68866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13770.429 FPS
 68881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13776.087 FPS
 
 and the scrolling of tinderbox is stuttering. But no distortion. It is
 not possible to use 185.18.36-r1 because this one conflicts with
 xorg-server-1.7. Possibly this conflicting is also true for 173.14.25
 and my Gentoo simlpy hasn't noticed it. :)
 
 195.36.24 has distortions and is the recommended stable Nvidia driver
 for xorg-server-1.7. I am now again using 195.36.31.
 
 Hartmut

nVidia site shows Linux x86 Display Driver Version 256.35 as the most
current when selecting Geforce 8800 GTS.
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.35-driver.html
seems to be a major fix.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

/Hartmut Figge/:

NoOp:


I use the 96 because of the age of my card.


We need more testers with different Nvidia cards and drivers. But it
seems clear that something has changed in SM 2.1 in the timeframe

2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT

which affects recent Nvidia cards with recent Nvidia drivers on Linux.


Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies?

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

nVidia site shows Linux x86 Display Driver Version 256.35 as the most
current when selecting Geforce 8800 GTS.
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.35-driver.html
seems to be a major fix.

Very new and it is hard masked on my Gentoo. I do not really want to
override the mask to test it. ;)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
Stanimir Stamenkov:

Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies?

I haven't used FF for a long, long time. Seems that i have to do now.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:
Stanimir Stamenkov:

Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies?

I haven't used FF for a long, long time. Seems that i have to do now.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100727 Minefield/4.0b3pre

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ff100727.png (93 KB)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

NoOp wrote:


Can you provide the output of the video section of:

$ sudo lspci -v

   

Sorry, NoOp. It's all go here!

$ sudo lspci -v


02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 
GT] (rev a1)

Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 3499
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at df00 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0

~$ glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
57896 frames in 5.0 seconds
57263 frames in 5.0 seconds
57243 frames in 5.0 seconds

~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes

This is the next proprietary-driver-update for me also:-

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
Version: 256.35 ^Certified
Release Date: 2010.06.22
Operating System: Linux 64-bit
Language: English (U.S.)
File Size: 40.5 MB


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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 04:08 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 Can you provide the output of the video section of:

 $ sudo lspci -v


 Sorry, NoOp. It's all go here!
 
 $ sudo lspci -v
 
 
 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 
 GT] (rev a1)
  Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 3499
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
  Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
  Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
  I/O ports at df00 [size=128]
  [virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K]
  Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
  Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0
 
 ~$ glxgears
 Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
 approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
 57896 frames in 5.0 seconds
 57263 frames in 5.0 seconds
 57243 frames in 5.0 seconds
 
 ~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
 direct rendering: Yes
 
 This is the next proprietary-driver-update for me also:-
 
 Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
 Version: 256.35 ^Certified
 Release Date: 2010.06.22
 Operating System: Linux 64-bit
 Language: English (U.S.)
 File Size: 40.5 MB

Well that rules out 256.35 fixing the issue.

You guys just have cards that are too fast :-) :
Hartmut:
h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears
99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS
99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS

Mine:
 glxgears
7021 frames in 5.0 seconds
7310 frames in 5.0 seconds
7149 frames in 5.0 seconds

So, in summary:
nVidia 96 (legacy card/driver) - works
non-nvidia cards/drivers (Intel Mobile 4  legacy 3Dfx Voodoo) - work
nouveau works - Robert (GF 7600 GT)
nVidia 173.14.25 - stutter but no distortion
nVidia 195.36 and 256.35 - distortion (also w/FF Minefield)

Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the
issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt  it does
appear to be a driver issue.
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the
issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt  it does
appear to be a driver issue.

Hm? The problem appears in trunk SM/FF since a change in the code not
long ago. Are other programs affected as well? I do not know of one.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 04:51 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the
issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt  it does
appear to be a driver issue.
 
 Hm? The problem appears in trunk SM/FF since a change in the code not
 long ago. Are other programs affected as well? I do not know of one.
 
 Hartmut

Neither do I, but then again I've only checked the tinderbox page you
provided  my card isn't fast/new enough to test the other nVidia
drivers. But, looking around a bit I find bugs related to video
'tearing' [1] - not sure if it's related or not. Either way, the driver
does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce on the legacy nVidia
driver, an updated  relatively fast Intel Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a
very old 3Dfx Voodoo card. It can be reproduced on an nVidia 256.35 
195.36 driver. So, appears to me to be a combination of whatever changes
were made in SM _and_ the graphics card/driver. nVidia driver issues are
not new, so I wouldn't discount that being a significant contributor to
the issue.

I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the
results will be the same as my other machines.

[1] Note: just a sample of ubuntu issues that may have nothing to do
with the issue, but might be worth a quick look.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/568492
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48983937/ooo.png
[Fonts corrupted on Openoffice menus and Lotus Notes 8.5 with nvidia,
compiz, twinview and subpixel smoothing.]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/448440
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33431437/Screenshot-1.jpg
[video tearing when composite is enabled on nvidia card]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/600178
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51166694/Screenshot-1.png
[Screen tearing when dragging window, in videos and other large screen
redraws]
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 05:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the
 results will be the same as my other machines.

No issues with this one:
2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP
1X/2X (rev 5c)
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 0061
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Memory at feaff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Expansion ROM at feac [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0
Kernel modules: atyfb
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

Either way, the driver does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce
on the legacy nVidia driver, an updated  relatively fast Intel
Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a very old 3Dfx Voodoo card.

Agreed. But there is no need to continue searching. :)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147#c6

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 07/27/2010 05:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
 ...
 I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the
 results will be the same as my other machines.
 
 No issues with this one:
 2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP
 1X/2X (rev 5c)
   Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 0061
   Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
   Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
   Memory at feaff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
   Expansion ROM at feac [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0
   Kernel modules: atyfb

Or this one:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX
440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16
Memory at e700 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at effe [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau
$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  96.43.17  Thu Apr 15
05:28:41 PDT 2010
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-27 Thread NoOp
On 07/27/2010 05:58 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Either way, the driver does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce
on the legacy nVidia driver, an updated  relatively fast Intel
Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a very old 3Dfx Voodoo card.
 
 Agreed. But there is no need to continue searching. :)
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147#c6
 
 Hartmut, happily retiring into laziness

Ah... the drinking  smoking light is now lit :-)
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 Hartmut Figge wrote:

Greetings,

in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It
would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not
see it.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB)

Steps to reproduce:

1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16
2.   Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in
  the browser
2.b  Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar.
  I am using a fontsize of 20.
3.   Scroll right horizontal
3.b  If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there

It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the
regression range with the archive of my private builds to

h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552
2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT

Hartmut
Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight 
annoyance in Message-compose and page-composer (both normal and 
HTML-source), but not browser until your test-example, however even so 
much as changing the focus or moving the mouse refreshes the content, 
and all is instantly recovered OK. I can confirm the above-test using 
the keyboard right arrow key (even with minimum font size none), but 
it does not happen when using the scrollbar or mouse. Any change of 
focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture a screenshot as 
you've been able to, due to instant reversion to excellent focus, 
colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we move focus (to 
desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the suite's chrome). Tricky!
A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; 
rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141, 
mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f 
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f build. (I'm 
right in the middle of shifting house/locale at the minute, so really 
don't have time to work back through a regression range - Hoping one of 
the other folk can assist here! Barry)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
Barry Edwin Gilmour:

Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight 
annoyance in Message-compose 

That i have also seen. I would not say 'very-slight annoyance' but a big
one. ;)

Here is an example. Taken with a camera because at this time i had not
yet detected how to make a screenshot of this.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100725-c.jpg (121 KB)

Doesn't occur always. Switching to another workplace and then going back
helps.

and page-composer (both normal and HTML-source), but not browser
until your test-example, however even so much as changing the focus
or moving the mouse refreshes the content, and all is instantly
recovered OK.

For the browser i can confirm but not for distortions in the compose
window when replying. That is more persistent, at least for me.

I can confirm the above-test using the keyboard right arrow key (even
with minimum font size none), but it does not happen when using the
scrollbar or mouse.

Hm. I am always using mouse and scrollbar when scrolling.

Any change of focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture
a screenshot as you've been able to, due to instant reversion to
excellent focus, colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we
move focus (to desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the
suite's chrome). Tricky!

*g*

I have used 'scrot -d 40 bild.png' in an xterm on another workplace,
then switched to the one with SM and had 40 seconds to provoke the
error. After this time the screenshot was automatically taken. Then i
could cut the relevant piece of information from it.

A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; 
rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141, 
mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f 
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f build.

Thanks.

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:18:12 +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It
 would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not
 see it.
 
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB)
 
 Steps to reproduce:
 
 1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16
 2.   Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in
  the browser
 2.b  Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar.
  I am using a fontsize of 20.
 3.   Scroll right horizontal
 3.b  If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there
 
 It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the
 regression range with the archive of my private builds to
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552
 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT

This regression range matches the timeframe when RoCs Layers work landed
on trunk:

http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startdate=2010-07-15enddate=2010-07-15+15%3A00

Phil

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It
 would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not
 see it.
 
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB)
 
 Steps to reproduce:
 
 1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16
 2.   Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in
  the browser
 2.b  Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar.
  I am using a fontsize of 20.
 3.   Scroll right horizontal
 3.b  If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there
 
 It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the
 regression range with the archive of my private builds to
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552
 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT
 
 Hartmut

Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o
issues.
Test system is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2
Build is from here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.1a2-candidates/build2/linux-x86_64/en-US/

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16

Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o
issues.
Test system is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2

This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
NoOp wrote:
 On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It
 would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not
 see it.
 
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB)
 
 Steps to reproduce:
 
 1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16
 2.   Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in
  the browser
 2.b  Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar.
  I am using a fontsize of 20.
 3.   Scroll right horizontal
 3.b  If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there
 
 It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the
 regression range with the archive of my private builds to
 
 h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552
 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT
 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT
 
 Hartmut
 
 Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o
 issues.
 Test system is:
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
 rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2
 Build is from here:
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.1a2-candidates/build2/linux-x86_64/en-US/

Just set fonts to 20 and restarted SM. Again, no issues.
Ubuntu 10.04 (lucid lynx) linux.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It
would be nice to know if i am the only one.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147

The status was not intended to be set as 'new'. Probably i have missed a
checkbox. Hm.

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
 1.   Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16
 
Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o
issues.
Test system is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2
 
 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;)
 
 Hartmut

Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it?

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;)

Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it?

Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from
here:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/

P.S.
The distortions in the composer are troublesome.

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147

The status was not intended to be set as 'new'. Probably i have missed a
checkbox. Hm.

Changed to 'UNCONFIRMED'.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;)

Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it?
 
 Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from
 here:
 
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/
 
 P.S.
 The distortions in the composer are troublesome.
 
 Hartmut

OK. How about this one?
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.



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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 07:55 PM, NoOp wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 
 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;)

Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it?
 
 Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from
 here:
 
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/
 
 P.S.
 The distortions in the composer are troublesome.
 
 Hartmut
 
 OK. How about this one?
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
 Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
 
 Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Sorry, forgot to add that that one is from:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

Good.

Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 Hartmut Figge wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour:


Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight
annoyance in Message-compose

That i have also seen. I would not say 'very-slight annoyance' but a big
one. ;)

Here is an example. Taken with a camera because at this time i had not
yet detected how to make a screenshot of this.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100725-c.jpg (121 KB)

Doesn't occur always. Switching to another workplace and then going back
helps.


and page-composer (both normal and HTML-source), but not browser
until your test-example, however even so much as changing the focus
or moving the mouse refreshes the content, and all is instantly
recovered OK.

For the browser i can confirm but not for distortions in the compose
window when replying. That is more persistent, at least for me.


I can confirm the above-test using the keyboard right arrow key (even
with minimum font size none), but it does not happen when using the
scrollbar or mouse.

Hm. I am always using mouse and scrollbar when scrolling.


Any change of focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture
a screenshot as you've been able to, due to instant reversion to
excellent focus, colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we
move focus (to desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the
suite's chrome). Tricky!

*g*

I have used 'scrot -d 40 bild.png' in an xterm on another workplace,
then switched to the one with SM and had 40 seconds to provoke the
error. After this time the screenshot was automatically taken. Then i
could cut the relevant piece of information from it.

A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141,
mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f  build.

Thanks.

Hartmut



Many thanks for scrot, Hartmut. Hadn't used it before now.
(Ubuntu-10.4_64 (2.6.32.24) screenshot application has time delay, but 
the error corrected itself as-soon-as  the screenshot was being taken.)

I get the same as you:--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Zooming isn't required. The font should be big enough that there is a
horizontal scrollbar. The distortion starts when scrolling to the right.

Not always, but often. If there is no distortion, opening a new tab with
the tinderbox followed by scrolling could be successful.

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
 
 Good.
 
Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.
 
 Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
 Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.
 
 Hartmut

That would be my guess. That laptop has:
$ sudo lspci -v
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 5110 [size=8]
Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
Enable+
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

This system has an old nVidia:
  *-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
vendor: nVidia Corporation

but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x
is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card
that I can fire up later tonight  test.


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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
Barry Edwin Gilmour:

I get the same as you:--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/

Thanks. It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment
there.

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 Hartmut Figge wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour:


I get the same as you:--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/

Thanks. It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment
there.

Hartmut

Done. Barry..
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Hartmut Figge
Barry Edwin Gilmour:
  Hartmut Figge wrote:

 It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment
 there.

Done. Barry..

Thanks. And now i should add a comment myself regarding the issue with
the graphic card. Sigh. ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:
 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
 
 Good.
 
Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.
 
 Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
 Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.
 
 Hartmut
 
 That would be my guess. That laptop has:
 $ sudo lspci -v
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
 Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
   Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
   Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
   Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
   I/O ports at 5110 [size=8]
   Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
 Enable+
   Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
   Kernel driver in use: i915
   Kernel modules: i915
 
 This system has an old nVidia:
   *-display
 description: VGA compatible controller
 product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
 vendor: nVidia Corporation
 
 but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x
 is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card
 that I can fire up later tonight  test.


I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio
866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the
tinderbox link
(http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues.

That machine has an old:
01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3
Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb

If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia
driver problem.

I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening
if I get a chance.




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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 Hartmut Figge wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour:

  Hartmut Figge wrote:

It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment
there.

Done. Barry..

Thanks. And now i should add a comment myself regarding the issue with
the graphic card. Sigh. ;)

Hartmut
How about asking or including Phil's finding of the regression-range 
matching ROC's layers-work into trunk ?

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 NoOp wrote:

On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

Good.


Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.

Hartmut

That would be my guess. That laptop has:
$ sudo lspci -v
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 5110 [size=8]
Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
Enable+
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

This system has an old nVidia:
   *-display
 description: VGA compatible controller
 product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
 vendor: nVidia Corporation

but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x
is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card
that I can fire up later tonight  test.


I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio
866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the
tinderbox link
(http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues.

That machine has an old:
01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3
Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb

If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia
driver problem.

I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening
if I get a chance.





Gary, Could you try a build from:-
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ 
?

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
On 07/26/2010 08:56 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
...
 Gary, Could you try a build from:-
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
  
 ?

Sure. Dowloading now. May be awhile... I'm cooking :-)

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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread NoOp
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
   NoOp wrote:
 On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
 Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
 Good.

 Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.
 Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
 Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.

 Hartmut
 That would be my guess. That laptop has:
 $ sudo lspci -v
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
 Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
 Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 I/O ports at 5110 [size=8]
 Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
 Enable+
 Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
 Kernel driver in use: i915
 Kernel modules: i915

 This system has an old nVidia:
*-display
  description: VGA compatible controller
  product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
  vendor: nVidia Corporation

 but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x
 is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card
 that I can fire up later tonight  test.

 I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio
 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
 on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the
 tinderbox link
 (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues.

 That machine has an old:
 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
  Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057
  Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3
  Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
  Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
  I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
  Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K]
  Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
  Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus
  Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb

 If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia
 driver problem.

 I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening
 if I get a chance.




 Gary, Could you try a build from:-
 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
  
 ?

No issue from the laptop w/intel:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2   26-Jul-2010 01:2215M

It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive
card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04.
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Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies

2010-07-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

 NoOp wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

   NoOp wrote:

On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

NoOp:


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre

Good.


Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%.

Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31.

Hartmut

That would be my guess. That laptop has:
$ sudo lspci -v
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 5110 [size=8]
Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
Enable+
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

This system has an old nVidia:
*-display
  description: VGA compatible controller
  product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]
  vendor: nVidia Corporation

but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x
is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card
that I can fire up later tonight   test.


I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio
866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/
on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the
tinderbox link
(http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues.

That machine has an old:
01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3
Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb

If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia
driver problem.

I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening
if I get a chance.





Gary, Could you try a build from:-
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
?

No issue from the laptop w/intel:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre)
Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/
seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2   26-Jul-2010 01:2215M

It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive
card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04.
Bang goes the idea that the hourlies may have fixed it, or been 
volatile-different. Looks more and more like a proprietary-conflict, eh?

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