Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Barry Edwin Gilmour schrieb: Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut GeForce 9600 GT with nvidia-drivers 195.36.24 (Barry) Hmm, I have no issues here with the nouveau driver (GF 7600 GT). Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Robert Kaiser: Hmm, I have no issues here with the nouveau driver (GF 7600 GT). Changing the driver from nvidia to nv disposes the distortion. I cannot test nouveau without recompiling xorg-drivers and testing nouveau should not be necessary. You have done that already. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 09:29 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: NoOp wrote: ... I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the tinderbox link (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues. That machine has an old: 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia driver problem. I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening if I get a chance. Gary, Could you try a build from:- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ ? No issue from the laptop w/intel: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz226-Jul-2010 01:22 15M It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04. Bang goes the idea that the hourlies may have fixed it, or been volatile-different. Looks more and more like a proprietary-conflict, eh? Sorry for the delay in replying... my cooking wine was so good that I never did go back test last night :-) No issues with the Sony w/3Dfx. Also fired up the other nVidia machine this morning tested: $ sudo lspci -v 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau Set fonts to 20, etc., etc. and used today's builds: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100727 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre and no issues on that one either. That one has full enhanced effects (compiz, cube, etc., etc) turned on, same as the desktop w/intel mobile chipset. Can you provide the output of the video section of: $ sudo lspci -v ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: $ sudo lspci -v 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does you get when issuing 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'? h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 195.36.31 Tue Jun 1 22:08:27 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2) h...@e675 ~ $ sudo lspci -v [...] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Device 2252 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at f600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f400 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at a000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at f700 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ? Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ? Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge: NoOp: [...] Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does you get when issuing 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'? h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 195.36.31 Tue Jun 1 22:08:27 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2) And what about glxgears? h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears 99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS 99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 10:23 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: $ sudo lspci -v 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0138 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at dc78 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fe9e [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does you get when issuing 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/nvidia-96 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_96.43.16.html h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 195.36.31 Tue Jun 1 22:08:27 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2) $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 96.43.17 Thu Apr 15 05:28:41 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) h...@e675 ~ $ sudo lspci -v [...] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: XFX Pine Group Inc. Device 2252 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at f600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f400 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at a000 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at f700 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel ? Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ? Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia On Ubuntu, that card would use: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/nvidia-173 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.25.html Supported Products GeForce 8 series: 8300 GS, 8800 GT 512, 8800 GS, 8200 / nForce 730a, 8600 GTS, 8100 / nForce 720a, *8800 GTS*, 8800 GTX, 8400 SE, 8800 Ultra, 8500 GT, 8400, 8600 GT, 8800 GT, 8200, 8300, 8600 GS, 8400 GS http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-195.36.31-driver.html Supported Products GeForce 8 series: 8400, 8800 Ultra, 8300, 8500 GT, 8600 GT, 8800 GTX, 8400 GS, 8800 GS, 8800 GTS 512, 8400 SE, 8100 / nForce 720a, 8200, 8600 GS, 8300 GS, 8200 / nForce 730a, 8600 GTS, 8800 GTS, 8800 GT Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 10:34 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Hartmut Figge: NoOp: [...] Your driver seems to be nvidia-96. Never heard of this one. :) What does you get when issuing 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version'? h...@e675 ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 195.36.31 Tue Jun 1 22:08:27 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Gentoo 4.4.3-r2 p1.2) And what about glxgears? h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears 99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS 99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS Hartmut Remember... its a very old NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3) $ glxgears 7021 frames in 5.0 seconds 7310 frames in 5.0 seconds 7149 frames in 5.0 seconds ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one if possible. Does your driver support direct rendering? h...@e675 ~ $ glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 11:30 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one if possible. Does your driver support direct rendering? h...@e675 ~ $ glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes Yes - otherwise I wouldn't be able to run all the compiz bells whistles :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 11:30 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one if possible. Sorry, I was wrong. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers 195.36.15-0ubuntu2 I use the 96 because of the age of my card. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge: NoOp: Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one if possible. That's interesting. With 173.14.25 glxgears drops to h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears 68866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13770.429 FPS 68881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13776.087 FPS and the scrolling of tinderbox is stuttering. But no distortion. It is not possible to use 185.18.36-r1 because this one conflicts with xorg-server-1.7. Possibly this conflicting is also true for 173.14.25 and my Gentoo simlpy hasn't noticed it. :) 195.36.24 has distortions and is the recommended stable Nvidia driver for xorg-server-1.7. I am now again using 195.36.31. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: I use the 96 because of the age of my card. We need more testers with different Nvidia cards and drivers. But it seems clear that something has changed in SM 2.1 in the timeframe 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT which affects recent Nvidia cards with recent Nvidia drivers on Linux. P.S. 'timeframe' is underlined by the spellchecker. Hm. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 11:57 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Hartmut Figge: NoOp: Maybe the problem is that you are using the driver for the '8800 GTS 512' should be using 173.14.25 instead? I don't think so. The 173.14.25 is horribly old and the current stable version for Nvidia on Gentoo is 195.36.24. But i will try this old one if possible. That's interesting. With 173.14.25 glxgears drops to h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears 68866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13770.429 FPS 68881 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13776.087 FPS and the scrolling of tinderbox is stuttering. But no distortion. It is not possible to use 185.18.36-r1 because this one conflicts with xorg-server-1.7. Possibly this conflicting is also true for 173.14.25 and my Gentoo simlpy hasn't noticed it. :) 195.36.24 has distortions and is the recommended stable Nvidia driver for xorg-server-1.7. I am now again using 195.36.31. Hartmut nVidia site shows Linux x86 Display Driver Version 256.35 as the most current when selecting Geforce 8800 GTS. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.35-driver.html seems to be a major fix. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
/Hartmut Figge/: NoOp: I use the 96 because of the age of my card. We need more testers with different Nvidia cards and drivers. But it seems clear that something has changed in SM 2.1 in the timeframe 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT which affects recent Nvidia cards with recent Nvidia drivers on Linux. Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies? -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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NoOp: nVidia site shows Linux x86 Display Driver Version 256.35 as the most current when selecting Geforce 8800 GTS. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.35-driver.html seems to be a major fix. Very new and it is hard masked on my Gentoo. I do not really want to override the mask to test it. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Stanimir Stamenkov: Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies? I haven't used FF for a long, long time. Seems that i have to do now. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge: Stanimir Stamenkov: Do you get the same with latest Firefox/Minefield nightlies? I haven't used FF for a long, long time. Seems that i have to do now. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100727 Minefield/4.0b3pre http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ff100727.png (93 KB) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp wrote: Can you provide the output of the video section of: $ sudo lspci -v Sorry, NoOp. It's all go here! $ sudo lspci -v 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 3499 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at df00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 ~$ glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 57896 frames in 5.0 seconds 57263 frames in 5.0 seconds 57243 frames in 5.0 seconds ~$ glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes This is the next proprietary-driver-update for me also:- Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver Version: 256.35 ^Certified Release Date: 2010.06.22 Operating System: Linux 64-bit Language: English (U.S.) File Size: 40.5 MB ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 04:08 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: NoOp wrote: Can you provide the output of the video section of: $ sudo lspci -v Sorry, NoOp. It's all go here! $ sudo lspci -v 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 3499 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at df00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at fb00 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 ~$ glxgears Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. 57896 frames in 5.0 seconds 57263 frames in 5.0 seconds 57243 frames in 5.0 seconds ~$ glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes This is the next proprietary-driver-update for me also:- Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver Version: 256.35 ^Certified Release Date: 2010.06.22 Operating System: Linux 64-bit Language: English (U.S.) File Size: 40.5 MB Well that rules out 256.35 fixing the issue. You guys just have cards that are too fast :-) : Hartmut: h...@e675 ~ $ glxgears 99886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19977.005 FPS 99900 frames in 5.0 seconds = 19979.924 FPS Mine: glxgears 7021 frames in 5.0 seconds 7310 frames in 5.0 seconds 7149 frames in 5.0 seconds So, in summary: nVidia 96 (legacy card/driver) - works non-nvidia cards/drivers (Intel Mobile 4 legacy 3Dfx Voodoo) - work nouveau works - Robert (GF 7600 GT) nVidia 173.14.25 - stutter but no distortion nVidia 195.36 and 256.35 - distortion (also w/FF Minefield) Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt it does appear to be a driver issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt it does appear to be a driver issue. Hm? The problem appears in trunk SM/FF since a change in the code not long ago. Are other programs affected as well? I do not know of one. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 04:51 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Not sure if you should file an nvidia bug report, or if the page is the issue? I'd recommend also filing a bug with nVidia; can't hurt it does appear to be a driver issue. Hm? The problem appears in trunk SM/FF since a change in the code not long ago. Are other programs affected as well? I do not know of one. Hartmut Neither do I, but then again I've only checked the tinderbox page you provided my card isn't fast/new enough to test the other nVidia drivers. But, looking around a bit I find bugs related to video 'tearing' [1] - not sure if it's related or not. Either way, the driver does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce on the legacy nVidia driver, an updated relatively fast Intel Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a very old 3Dfx Voodoo card. It can be reproduced on an nVidia 256.35 195.36 driver. So, appears to me to be a combination of whatever changes were made in SM _and_ the graphics card/driver. nVidia driver issues are not new, so I wouldn't discount that being a significant contributor to the issue. I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the results will be the same as my other machines. [1] Note: just a sample of ubuntu issues that may have nothing to do with the issue, but might be worth a quick look. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/568492 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48983937/ooo.png [Fonts corrupted on Openoffice menus and Lotus Notes 8.5 with nvidia, compiz, twinview and subpixel smoothing.] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/448440 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33431437/Screenshot-1.jpg [video tearing when composite is enabled on nvidia card] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+bug/600178 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51166694/Screenshot-1.png [Screen tearing when dragging window, in videos and other large screen redraws] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 05:35 PM, NoOp wrote: ... I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the results will be the same as my other machines. No issues with this one: 2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 0061 Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Memory at feaff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at feac [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0 Kernel modules: atyfb ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: Either way, the driver does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce on the legacy nVidia driver, an updated relatively fast Intel Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a very old 3Dfx Voodoo card. Agreed. But there is no need to continue searching. :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147#c6 Hartmut, happily retiring into laziness ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/27/2010 05:35 PM, NoOp wrote: ... I've another machine with an old ATI card that I can try, but expect the results will be the same as my other machines. No issues with this one: 2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device 0061 Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Memory at feaff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at feac [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0 Kernel modules: atyfb Or this one: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at e700 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at effe [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 Kernel driver in use: nvidia Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 96.43.17 Thu Apr 15 05:28:41 PDT 2010 GCC version: gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/27/2010 05:58 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Either way, the driver does (IMO) come into play as I can't reproduce on the legacy nVidia driver, an updated relatively fast Intel Mobile 4 chipset/driver, or a very old 3Dfx Voodoo card. Agreed. But there is no need to continue searching. :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147#c6 Hartmut, happily retiring into laziness Ah... the drinking smoking light is now lit :-) Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not see it. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB) Steps to reproduce: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 2. Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in the browser 2.b Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar. I am using a fontsize of 20. 3. Scroll right horizontal 3.b If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the regression range with the archive of my private builds to h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT Hartmut Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight annoyance in Message-compose and page-composer (both normal and HTML-source), but not browser until your test-example, however even so much as changing the focus or moving the mouse refreshes the content, and all is instantly recovered OK. I can confirm the above-test using the keyboard right arrow key (even with minimum font size none), but it does not happen when using the scrollbar or mouse. Any change of focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture a screenshot as you've been able to, due to instant reversion to excellent focus, colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we move focus (to desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the suite's chrome). Tricky! A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141, mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f build. (I'm right in the middle of shifting house/locale at the minute, so really don't have time to work back through a regression range - Hoping one of the other folk can assist here! Barry) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Barry Edwin Gilmour: Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight annoyance in Message-compose That i have also seen. I would not say 'very-slight annoyance' but a big one. ;) Here is an example. Taken with a camera because at this time i had not yet detected how to make a screenshot of this. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100725-c.jpg (121 KB) Doesn't occur always. Switching to another workplace and then going back helps. and page-composer (both normal and HTML-source), but not browser until your test-example, however even so much as changing the focus or moving the mouse refreshes the content, and all is instantly recovered OK. For the browser i can confirm but not for distortions in the compose window when replying. That is more persistent, at least for me. I can confirm the above-test using the keyboard right arrow key (even with minimum font size none), but it does not happen when using the scrollbar or mouse. Hm. I am always using mouse and scrollbar when scrolling. Any change of focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture a screenshot as you've been able to, due to instant reversion to excellent focus, colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we move focus (to desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the suite's chrome). Tricky! *g* I have used 'scrot -d 40 bild.png' in an xterm on another workplace, then switched to the one with SM and had 40 seconds to provoke the error. After this time the screenshot was automatically taken. Then i could cut the relevant piece of information from it. A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141, mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f build. Thanks. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:18:12 +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not see it. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB) Steps to reproduce: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 2. Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in the browser 2.b Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar. I am using a fontsize of 20. 3. Scroll right horizontal 3.b If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the regression range with the archive of my private builds to h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT This regression range matches the timeframe when RoCs Layers work landed on trunk: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?startdate=2010-07-15enddate=2010-07-15+15%3A00 Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not see it. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB) Steps to reproduce: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 2. Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in the browser 2.b Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar. I am using a fontsize of 20. 3. Scroll right horizontal 3.b If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the regression range with the archive of my private builds to h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT Hartmut Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o issues. Test system is: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2 Build is from here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.1a2-candidates/build2/linux-x86_64/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o issues. Test system is: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It would be nice to know if i am the only one. Two others on Win could not see it. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100726-b.png (52 KB) Steps to reproduce: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 2. Open http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey in the browser 2.b Choose a fontsize big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar. I am using a fontsize of 20. 3. Scroll right horizontal 3.b If there is no distortion open a new tab and try there It doesn't happen always, but often enough. I could determine the regression range with the archive of my private builds to h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 1007150002-1007160552 2010-07-14 15:02:00 PDT 2010-07-15 20:52:00 PDT Hartmut Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o issues. Test system is: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2 Build is from here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.1a2-candidates/build2/linux-x86_64/en-US/ Just set fonts to 20 and restarted SM. Again, no issues. Ubuntu 10.04 (lucid lynx) linux. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge: in my current builds of SM 2.1 on Linux i see graphical distortions. It would be nice to know if i am the only one. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 The status was not intended to be set as 'new'. Probably i have missed a checkbox. Hm. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 07/26/2010 01:18 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: 1. Use a nightly of SM 2.1 newer than 2010-07-16 Harmut, no issues w/the 64bit build. I zoom to 110% or more and back w/o issues. Test system is: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a6pre) Gecko/20100629 SeaMonkey/2.1a2 This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;) Hartmut Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;) Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it? Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/ P.S. The distortions in the composer are troublesome. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 The status was not intended to be set as 'new'. Probably i have missed a checkbox. Hm. Changed to 'UNCONFIRMED'. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;) Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it? Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/ P.S. The distortions in the composer are troublesome. Hartmut OK. How about this one? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 07:55 PM, NoOp wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 07/26/2010 07:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: This one doesn't seem to meet the above requirement. ;) Ah. You're right... Sorry, where can I find it? Hm. I am compiling my builds myself, but probably you could try one from here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/ P.S. The distortions in the composer are troublesome. Hartmut OK. How about this one? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Sorry, forgot to add that that one is from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour: Can confirm, and I've noticed it for past few days, as a very-slight annoyance in Message-compose That i have also seen. I would not say 'very-slight annoyance' but a big one. ;) Here is an example. Taken with a camera because at this time i had not yet detected how to make a screenshot of this. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100725-c.jpg (121 KB) Doesn't occur always. Switching to another workplace and then going back helps. and page-composer (both normal and HTML-source), but not browser until your test-example, however even so much as changing the focus or moving the mouse refreshes the content, and all is instantly recovered OK. For the browser i can confirm but not for distortions in the compose window when replying. That is more persistent, at least for me. I can confirm the above-test using the keyboard right arrow key (even with minimum font size none), but it does not happen when using the scrollbar or mouse. Hm. I am always using mouse and scrollbar when scrolling. Any change of focus restores perfect graphics, so I could not capture a screenshot as you've been able to, due to instant reversion to excellent focus, colour, clarity, definition, etcetera, as soon as we move focus (to desktop toolbar, or even to another part of the suite's chrome). Tricky! *g* I have used 'scrot -d 40 bild.png' in an xterm on another workplace, then switched to the one with SM and had 40 seconds to provoke the error. After this time the screenshot was automatically taken. Then i could cut the relevant piece of information from it. A definite confirm in tonight's Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre ID:20100725225141, mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/3559a37d183f build. Thanks. Hartmut Many thanks for scrot, Hartmut. Hadn't used it before now. (Ubuntu-10.4_64 (2.6.32.24) screenshot application has time delay, but the error corrected itself as-soon-as the screenshot was being taken.) I get the same as you:-- http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp: Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Zooming isn't required. The font should be big enough that there is a horizontal scrollbar. The distortion starts when scrolling to the right. Not always, but often. If there is no distortion, opening a new tab with the tinderbox followed by scrolling could be successful. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut That would be my guess. That laptop has: $ sudo lspci -v 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at 5110 [size=8] Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 This system has an old nVidia: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] vendor: nVidia Corporation but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card that I can fire up later tonight test. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Barry Edwin Gilmour: I get the same as you:-- http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/ Thanks. It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment there. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour: I get the same as you:-- http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/4832365209/sizes/l/ Thanks. It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment there. Hartmut Done. Barry.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Barry Edwin Gilmour: Hartmut Figge wrote: It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment there. Done. Barry.. Thanks. And now i should add a comment myself regarding the issue with the graphic card. Sigh. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut That would be my guess. That laptop has: $ sudo lspci -v 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at 5110 [size=8] Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 This system has an old nVidia: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] vendor: nVidia Corporation but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card that I can fire up later tonight test. I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the tinderbox link (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues. That machine has an old: 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia driver problem. I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening if I get a chance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Hartmut Figge wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour: Hartmut Figge wrote: It would be nice if you could attach your screenshot to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582147 and write a comment there. Done. Barry.. Thanks. And now i should add a comment myself regarding the issue with the graphic card. Sigh. ;) Hartmut How about asking or including Phil's finding of the regression-range matching ROC's layers-work into trunk ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut That would be my guess. That laptop has: $ sudo lspci -v 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at 5110 [size=8] Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 This system has an old nVidia: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] vendor: nVidia Corporation but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card that I can fire up later tonight test. I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the tinderbox link (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues. That machine has an old: 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia driver problem. I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening if I get a chance. Gary, Could you try a build from:- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
On 07/26/2010 08:56 PM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: ... Gary, Could you try a build from:- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ ? Sure. Dowloading now. May be awhile... I'm cooking :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut That would be my guess. That laptop has: $ sudo lspci -v 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at 5110 [size=8] Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 This system has an old nVidia: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] vendor: nVidia Corporation but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card that I can fire up later tonight test. I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the tinderbox link (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues. That machine has an old: 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia driver problem. I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening if I get a chance. Gary, Could you try a build from:- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ ? No issue from the laptop w/intel: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 26-Jul-2010 01:2215M It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Graphical distortion in recent SM 2.1 Linux nightlies
NoOp wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:12 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/26/2010 08:01 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 (x86_64); rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre Good. Still no graphic distortion with fonts set to 20 and zooming to 130%. Hm. Perhaps a relation with graphic card and/or driver? I am using a Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS with nvidia-drivers 195.36.31. Hartmut That would be my guess. That laptop has: $ sudo lspci -v 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 360b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29 Memory at d000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at 5110 [size=8] Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable+ Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3 Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: i915 This system has an old nVidia: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] vendor: nVidia Corporation but I won't run 2.1x on is as it messes up my lightning calendar (2.0x is not compatible with 2.1x). I've another system with the same card that I can fire up later tonight test. I suspect it's an nVida issue. I'm currently testing an old Sony Vaio 866Mhz/384Mb w/Ubuntu 10.04 and I just loaded up the same http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/tinderbox-builds/comm-central-trunk-linux/1280109797/ on that system. Fired up SM and set the fonts to 20, went to the tinderbox link (http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey) - no issues. That machine has an old: 01:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Subsystem: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Device 0057 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 3 Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] Memory at e200 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at d800 [size=256] Expansion ROM at e1ff [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: voodoo3_smbus Kernel modules: i2c-voodoo3, tdfxfb If that old crap card can run/view w/o issues then I'd suspect an nVidia driver problem. I'll try to other nVida machine w/Quadro4 nvidia-96 later this evening if I get a chance. Gary, Could you try a build from:- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ ? No issue from the laptop w/intel: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b3pre) Gecko/20100725 SeaMonkey/2.1a3pre http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ seamonkey-2.1a3pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 26-Jul-2010 01:2215M It will be awhile for the Sony Vaio desktop with the 3Dfx Interactive card... it's installing updates for Ubuntu 10.04. Bang goes the idea that the hourlies may have fixed it, or been volatile-different. Looks more and more like a proprietary-conflict, eh? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey