Re: Profile protection

2020-01-31 Thread alexyu

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 30 Jan 20 19:33:


alexyu wrote:


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 30 Jan 20 17:12:

You can with a restored profile from the previous version. 
Downgrading was never supported but because of the new features and 
internal format changes it got worse after 2.35.


er... "2.53", right?:


No 2.35. Downgrading 2.53 will kill the places databsse and replace it 
with the last json backup (same with Fx 56 to 52) but downgrading 
earlier releases also caused/causes not always visible problems. Usually 
you see indexdb errors during startup but they may be pref changes and 
other unwanted changes creeping in.


Hi, FRG!

Thanks for the (unexpected) lesson.

I'll be sure to try 2.53 first on a copy of my profile, because I'm 
afraid some important-to-me installed extensions may not work.


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Re: Profile protection

2020-01-30 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

alexyu wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 30 Jan 20 17:12:

You can with a restored profile from the previous version. Downgrading was 
never supported but because of the new features and internal format changes 
it got worse after 2.35.


er... "2.53", right?:



No 2.35. Downgrading 2.53 will kill the places databsse and replace it with 
the last json backup (same with Fx 56 to 52) but downgrading earlier releases 
also caused/causes not always visible problems. Usually you see indexdb errors 
during startup but they may be pref changes and other unwanted changes 
creeping in.


FRG
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Re: Profile protection

2020-01-30 Thread alexyu

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote, on 30 Jan 20 17:12:

You can with a restored profile from the previous version. Downgrading 
was never supported but because of the new features and internal format 
changes it got worse after 2.35.


er... "2.53", right?:

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Re: Profile protection

2020-01-30 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl



Ray Davison wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


I just tried a few WG9S versions.  That cost me my bookmarks file. But I 
always backup before trying anything new, so no loss, just nuisance.

If a recent 2.53 cost you your bookmarks you have other problems.


Read again.  It was a WG9S.



Almost the same. He uses our patch queues. We just took out some work in 
progress patches for 2.53.1b1



Downgrading 2.53 will also kill the bookmarks db and is 100% unspupported.


I have been bouncing between various versions since early SM 1X.  I currently 
have six 2X versions on the HDD.  The only issue I have been aware of is the 
1X-2X transition.  Are you saying that once I run 2.53 I cannot run anything 
lower?


You can with a restored profile from the previous version. Downgrading was 
never supported but because of the new features and internal format changes it 
got worse after 2.35.


FRG
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Re: Profile protection

2020-01-30 Thread Ray Davison

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


I just tried a few WG9S versions.  That cost me my bookmarks file.  
But I always backup before trying anything new, so no loss, just 
nuisance.

If a recent 2.53 cost you your bookmarks you have other problems.


Read again.  It was a WG9S.

Downgrading 2.53 will also kill the bookmarks db and is 100% 
unspupported.


I have been bouncing between various versions since early SM 1X.  I 
currently have six 2X versions on the HDD.  The only issue I have been 
aware of is the 1X-2X transition.  Are you saying that once I run 2.53 I 
cannot run anything lower?


Bookarks will be recreated from a backup but if these are 
bad too the bookmarks are gone.


I don't depend on Mozilla to recover data.

Ray

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Re: Profile protection

2020-01-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Ray Davison wrote:
Chasing my bookmark issue has reminded me of another issue.  Some versions of 
SM and some "protect you" utilities will destroy some or all of your profile.


That is why a few years ago I created run object on the desktop for a batch 
file to copy all recent files from all profiles to a rarely used storage 
partition.


I just tried a few WG9S versions.  That cost me my bookmarks file.  But I 
always backup before trying anything new, so no loss, just nuisance.


Buyer beware, and never "update" over a functioning app or OS.  Install the 
new alongside the old and only delete the old when you are convinced the new 
is better.  Auto update is a monster waiting to bite you.


Ray



If a recent 2.53 cost you your bookmarks you have other problems. Either a bad 
add-on or such a third party using direct sql manipulating the places database.


Downgrading 2.53 will also kill the bookmarks db and is 100% unspupported. 
Bookarks will be recreated from a backup but if these are bad too the 
bookmarks are gone.


FRG
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