Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-15 Thread Ed Mullen

Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OK, what happens at those sites if you change your pref at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to "Block cookies"? Can you
still login?



Hi Paul,

I tried blocking cookies, as per your above advice. I then tried a site,
and got an onscreen message that I must turn on the cookies in order to
log on to that site. After I unblocked the cookies, then I did indeed
gain automatic entry to that site.


OK, that's normal.


From my perspective, there must be cookies sitting on my hard drive
that do not appear in my cookie manager.

Again, I used to have a dozen or so new cookies on my manager each day,
and I selectively deleted some. Since updating to SM 2.23, my cookie
manager has had zero cookies listed. That is the mystery that I cannot
fathom.


OK, let's make absolutely sure they're really not there in Cookie
Manager. If so, I'm out of ideas.

1) When you launch the Cookie Manager, there should be a narrow column
on the left with three things at the top:
 Cookies only
 Search domains
 Domain
Right? Confirm that it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?

2) If this is what you see, then below that there should be a list of
domains that have set cookies. Right? Or is the list blank?

If the list is blank, CM thinks you have no stored cookies.

3) If the list is not blank, selecting any domain by clicking it should
show its cookies in the wider pane on the right. Right? Confirm that
it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?

Note also that domains can sometimes set things on the "Preferences" tab
that don't show up on the "Cookies" tab. Typically these are things like
browser zoom factor. You might rule that out by pulling down
"Preferences" on the left instead of "Cookies," but I really don't think
that's your issue.


Hi Paul,

You hit the nail on the head. Each domain that I clicked on  gave a
bunch of cookies in the large right pane. That is very helpful, for now
I can systematically delete any unwanted cookies.  I am still perplexed
as to why the cookies list no longer appears as a  general list in the
right pane , as it used to before getting SM 2.23.


Because the newer implementation is far poorer than the old one. 
Horrible choice and unnecessary.  Good idea to move to an sqlite 
database for management but totally unnecessary to screw the user 
interface.  I cannot imagine anyone advocating that the new UI is better.



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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-15 Thread Mort

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OK, what happens at those sites if you change your pref at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to "Block cookies"? Can you
still login?



Hi Paul,

I tried blocking cookies, as per your above advice. I then tried a site,
and got an onscreen message that I must turn on the cookies in order to
log on to that site. After I unblocked the cookies, then I did indeed
gain automatic entry to that site.


OK, that's normal.


From my perspective, there must be cookies sitting on my hard drive
that do not appear in my cookie manager.

Again, I used to have a dozen or so new cookies on my manager each day,
and I selectively deleted some. Since updating to SM 2.23, my cookie
manager has had zero cookies listed. That is the mystery that I cannot
fathom.


OK, let's make absolutely sure they're really not there in Cookie
Manager. If so, I'm out of ideas.

1) When you launch the Cookie Manager, there should be a narrow column
on the left with three things at the top:
 Cookies only
 Search domains
 Domain
Right? Confirm that it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?

2) If this is what you see, then below that there should be a list of
domains that have set cookies. Right? Or is the list blank?

If the list is blank, CM thinks you have no stored cookies.

3) If the list is not blank, selecting any domain by clicking it should
show its cookies in the wider pane on the right. Right? Confirm that
it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?

Note also that domains can sometimes set things on the "Preferences" tab
that don't show up on the "Cookies" tab. Typically these are things like
browser zoom factor. You might rule that out by pulling down
"Preferences" on the left instead of "Cookies," but I really don't think
that's your issue.


Hi Paul,

You hit the nail on the head. Each domain that I clicked on  gave a 
bunch of cookies in the large right pane. That is very helpful, for now 
I can systematically delete any unwanted cookies.  I am still perplexed 
as to why the cookies list no longer appears as a  general list in the 
right pane , as it used to before getting SM 2.23.


In any event, thanks very much for all your help and your patience as well.

Mort Linder
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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OK, what happens at those sites if you change your pref at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to "Block cookies"? Can you
still login?



Hi Paul,

I tried blocking cookies, as per your above advice. I then tried a site,
and got an onscreen message that I must turn on the cookies in order to
log on to that site. After I unblocked the cookies, then I did indeed
gain automatic entry to that site.


OK, that's normal.


From my perspective, there must be cookies sitting on my hard drive
that do not appear in my cookie manager.

Again, I used to have a dozen or so new cookies on my manager each day,
and I selectively deleted some. Since updating to SM 2.23, my cookie
manager has had zero cookies listed. That is the mystery that I cannot
fathom.


OK, let's make absolutely sure they're really not there in Cookie 
Manager. If so, I'm out of ideas.


1) When you launch the Cookie Manager, there should be a narrow column 
on the left with three things at the top:

Cookies only
Search domains
Domain
Right? Confirm that it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?

2) If this is what you see, then below that there should be a list of 
domains that have set cookies. Right? Or is the list blank?


If the list is blank, CM thinks you have no stored cookies.

3) If the list is not blank, selecting any domain by clicking it should 
show its cookies in the wider pane on the right. Right? Confirm that 
it's wide enough and tall enough to see its contents?


Note also that domains can sometimes set things on the "Preferences" tab 
that don't show up on the "Cookies" tab. Typically these are things like 
browser zoom factor. You might rule that out by pulling down 
"Preferences" on the left instead of "Cookies," but I really don't think 
that's your issue.


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-15 Thread F Murtz

Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OK, what happens at those sites if you change your pref at Edit |
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to "Block cookies"? Can you
still login?



Hi Paul,

I tried blocking cookies,as per your above advice. I then tried a site,
and got an onscreen message that I must turn on the cookies in order to
log on to that site. After I unblocked the cookies, then I did indeed
gain automatic entry to that site.

 From my perspective, there must be cookies sitting on my hard drive
that do not appear in my cookie manager.

Again, I used to have a dozen or so new cookies on my manager each day,
and I selectively deleted some. Since updating to SM 2.23, my cookie
manager has had zero cookies listed. That is the mystery that I cannot
fathom.

Mort Linder


There used to be a free program called cookie muncher which used to 
allow cookies long enough to log on to page and then remove them but it 
seems non existent now. I am going to try and find an old hard drive and 
see if I can resurrect it.

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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


"For example, are you able to login to sites that require cookies
even though nothing shows in the CM?"


How do I know which sites require cookies for me to log into?


As a general rule, if a site requires you to log in with a username and
password before it will display content, it's using cookies.
Occasionally such sites will put a session id in the URL, but most use
cookies.

If you try to login and the site returns you to a blank login page, that
usually means you've rejected their cookies.

If you login and are granted access that you didn't have before, that
usually means you've accepted their cookies.


Thanks. Yes, several such sites allow me to log in automatically, which
suggests that cookies are being acquired by my PC but not appearing in
my cookie manager. The plot thickens.


OK, what happens at those sites if you change your pref at Edit | 
Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies to "Block cookies"? Can you 
still login?


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-14 Thread Mort

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


"For example, are you able to login to sites that require cookies
even though nothing shows in the CM?"


How do I know which sites require cookies for me to log into?


As a general rule, if a site requires you to log in with a username and
password before it will display content, it's using cookies.
Occasionally such sites will put a session id in the URL, but most use
cookies.

If you try to login and the site returns you to a blank login page, that
usually means you've rejected their cookies.

If you login and are granted access that you didn't have before, that
usually means you've accepted their cookies.




Thanks. Yes, several such sites allow me to log in automatically, which 
suggests that cookies are being acquired by my PC but not appearing in 
my cookie manager. The plot thickens.


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mort wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


"For example, are you able to login to sites that require cookies
even though nothing shows in the CM?"


How do I know which sites require cookies for me to log into?


As a general rule, if a site requires you to log in with a username and 
password before it will display content, it's using cookies. 
Occasionally such sites will put a session id in the URL, but most use 
cookies.


If you try to login and the site returns you to a blank login page, that 
usually means you've rejected their cookies.


If you login and are granted access that you didn't have before, that 
usually means you've accepted their cookies.


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-14 Thread Mort

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:05 AM +0900, Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago,
when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to
upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my
cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are
present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken
functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the
level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager)
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that
session. I then typically deleted all of them.

Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?

Thanks.

Mort Linder


I think the problem you're experiencing is the way the new Data Manager
works. In looking at it, there no longer seems to be any means of
seeing
session-related cookies. One can only look via domains, which is pretty
useless to see who gave you what during a session.


I have SM set to allow only session cookies, and I routinely see them in
the Cookie Manager. Unfortunately, you can't see all cookies in a common
pool, you can only see them one... domain... at... a... time. So the
only way to be sure you have no surviving cookies is to examine each of
the domains listed in the left-hand pane of the Cookie Manager. When you
delete all a domain's cookies, that domain vanishes from the list, and
when no domains are listed, that means no cookies are stored.

To Mort's question, it's hard to speculate what happened without knowing
your previous version. Cookie handling has changed over the years, and
if you upgraded from, say, Netscape 4.7, a lot has changed. ;-)

Still, my earlier question is valid: if you see nothing in the Cookie
Manager, what makes you think SM is storing cookies? For example, are
you able to login to sites that require cookies even though nothing
shows in the CM?

You might also examine your prefs under Edit | Preferences | Privacy &
Security | Cookies and make sure your settings are as you would like.



Thanks Trane and Paul for the new information. The mystery to me is why
cookies always appeared in the cookie manager and had to be manually
deleted by me, up to the previous SM version. Now with 2.23, suddenly no
more cookies appear in the cookie manager, with no other changes. Are
the cookies being acquired by my PC and not listed, or are they no
longer being acquired?


"For example, are you able to login to sites that require cookies even
though nothing shows in the CM?"



How do I know which sites require cookies for me to log into?

Thanks.

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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:05 AM +0900, Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago,
when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to
upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are
present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken
functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager)
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that
session. I then typically deleted all of them.

Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?

Thanks.

Mort Linder


I think the problem you're experiencing is the way the new Data Manager
works. In looking at it, there no longer seems to be any means of seeing
session-related cookies. One can only look via domains, which is pretty
useless to see who gave you what during a session.


I have SM set to allow only session cookies, and I routinely see them in
the Cookie Manager. Unfortunately, you can't see all cookies in a common
pool, you can only see them one... domain... at... a... time. So the
only way to be sure you have no surviving cookies is to examine each of
the domains listed in the left-hand pane of the Cookie Manager. When you
delete all a domain's cookies, that domain vanishes from the list, and
when no domains are listed, that means no cookies are stored.

To Mort's question, it's hard to speculate what happened without knowing
your previous version. Cookie handling has changed over the years, and
if you upgraded from, say, Netscape 4.7, a lot has changed. ;-)

Still, my earlier question is valid: if you see nothing in the Cookie
Manager, what makes you think SM is storing cookies? For example, are
you able to login to sites that require cookies even though nothing
shows in the CM?

You might also examine your prefs under Edit | Preferences | Privacy &
Security | Cookies and make sure your settings are as you would like.



Thanks Trane and Paul for the new information. The mystery to me is why
cookies always appeared in the cookie manager and had to be manually
deleted by me, up to the previous SM version. Now with 2.23, suddenly no
more cookies appear in the cookie manager, with no other changes. Are
the cookies being acquired by my PC and not listed, or are they no
longer being acquired?


"For example, are you able to login to sites that require cookies even 
though nothing shows in the CM?"



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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Mort

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:05 AM +0900, Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are
present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager)
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that
session. I then typically deleted all of them.

Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?

Thanks.

Mort Linder


I think the problem you're experiencing is the way the new Data Manager
works. In looking at it, there no longer seems to be any means of seeing
session-related cookies. One can only look via domains, which is pretty
useless to see who gave you what during a session.


I have SM set to allow only session cookies, and I routinely see them in
the Cookie Manager. Unfortunately, you can't see all cookies in a common
pool, you can only see them one... domain... at... a... time. So the
only way to be sure you have no surviving cookies is to examine each of
the domains listed in the left-hand pane of the Cookie Manager. When you
delete all a domain's cookies, that domain vanishes from the list, and
when no domains are listed, that means no cookies are stored.

To Mort's question, it's hard to speculate what happened without knowing
your previous version. Cookie handling has changed over the years, and
if you upgraded from, say, Netscape 4.7, a lot has changed. ;-)

Still, my earlier question is valid: if you see nothing in the Cookie
Manager, what makes you think SM is storing cookies? For example, are
you able to login to sites that require cookies even though nothing
shows in the CM?

You might also examine your prefs under Edit | Preferences | Privacy &
Security | Cookies and make sure your settings are as you would like.


Thanks Trane and Paul for the new information. The mystery to me is why 
cookies always appeared in the cookie manager and had to be manually 
deleted by me, up to the previous SM version. Now with 2.23, suddenly no 
more cookies appear in the cookie manager, with no other changes. Are 
the cookies being acquired by my PC and not listed, or are they no 
longer being acquired?


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Trane Francks wrote:

On 1/14/14 8:05 AM +0900, Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are
present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager)
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that
session. I then typically deleted all of them.

Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?

Thanks.

Mort Linder


I think the problem you're experiencing is the way the new Data Manager
works. In looking at it, there no longer seems to be any means of seeing
session-related cookies. One can only look via domains, which is pretty
useless to see who gave you what during a session.


I have SM set to allow only session cookies, and I routinely see them in 
the Cookie Manager. Unfortunately, you can't see all cookies in a common 
pool, you can only see them one... domain... at... a... time. So the 
only way to be sure you have no surviving cookies is to examine each of 
the domains listed in the left-hand pane of the Cookie Manager. When you 
delete all a domain's cookies, that domain vanishes from the list, and 
when no domains are listed, that means no cookies are stored.


To Mort's question, it's hard to speculate what happened without knowing 
your previous version. Cookie handling has changed over the years, and 
if you upgraded from, say, Netscape 4.7, a lot has changed. ;-)


Still, my earlier question is valid: if you see nothing in the Cookie 
Manager, what makes you think SM is storing cookies? For example, are 
you able to login to sites that require cookies even though nothing 
shows in the CM?


You might also examine your prefs under Edit | Preferences | Privacy & 
Security | Cookies and make sure your settings are as you would like.



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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Trane Francks

On 1/14/14 8:05 AM +0900, Mort wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager)
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that
session. I then typically deleted all of them.

Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?

Thanks.

Mort Linder

I think the problem you're experiencing is the way the new Data Manager 
works. In looking at it, there no longer seems to be any means of seeing 
session-related cookies. One can only look via domains, which is pretty 
useless to see who gave you what during a session.


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Mort

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM
installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager.
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


Hi,

Perhaps I was not clear enough. After each session on line with the 
previous SM version, when I opened the Cookie Manager(Data Manager) 
there appeared a lengthy list of cookies that were acquired in that 
session. I then typically deleted all of them.


Since I recently updated to the latest SM (2.23), the Cookie Manager 
always comes out blank. No settings were changed. I cannot figure out 
why I no longer see a cookies list any more. Are they no longer 
acquired, or are they acquired and somehow hidden?


Thanks.

Mort Linder
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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

A Williams wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level
which was skipped after that server crash.


I was assuming Mort knew how to look for cookies in the Data Manager. 
Now we know for sure he does. Let's wait and see what he says.


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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-13 Thread A Williams

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?



You are looking at this the wrong way.
The Cookie Manager behaves the same way as the Password Manager and 
there was a big discussion here on the somewhat broken functionality a 
couple of months ago.  I can't remember which Seamonkey level first 
changed things but I think it was the one immediately after the level 
which was skipped after that server crash.


@Mort - you upgraded recently from an older level?  "older" in this case 
means a level several months old.


In order to look at your cookies you need to:
- Open the Cookie Manager (or Password Manager etc - it makes no 
difference).  It calls itself the "Data Manager".

- Look for the "Data Manager" - left, near the top.
- Change the "All data types" button immediately below that text to 
"Cookies only".


Thanks for asking the question - I only worked out how things now work 
when I started answering the question ;-)

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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mort wrote:


I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help.
I'm running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro.


Presumably on two different machines with two different SM installations?


I have my setting to accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when
I clicked on the cookie manager, a list of on-board cookies
appeared,and I could then delete as I wished. Now, the cookie
manager list is blank. The only change that I made was to upgrade to
SM 2.23.

Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


If the list is blank, what reason do you have to think they are present?

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Re: Remove cookies- no lnger in my cookie manager list

2014-01-12 Thread Mort

F Murtz wrote:

How can I remove all cookies in one go SM2.23?

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Hi,

I have a recent cookie problem, and will be grateful for any help. I'm 
running Windows XP SP3 Pro, and Windows 7 Pro. I have my setting to 
accept all cookies. Until a few weeks ago, when I clicked on the cookie 
manager, a list of on-board cookies appeared,and I could then delete as 
I wished. Now, the cookie manager list is blank. The only change that I 
made was to upgrade to SM 2.23.


Is there any way to make those on-board cookies appear in my cookie 
manager, so that I could delete the undesirable ones?


Thanks a lot.

Mort Linder
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