Re: An intriguing success - was [Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]]
On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/31/2016 9:01 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote,
and I quote
(in part):
SeaMonkey currently sets title to *BOLD* if there are _any_
unread
messages in the folder. This is unnecessarily redundant as my
personal standard is to display the number of un-read messages
in the
folder.
I read again (and *carefully*) your message, and I think
that this
style will better fit your needs:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol,
biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
The first part will change colour of account names with new
messages,
the second part will change colour of the names of each folder
with new
unread messages...
Why "An intriguing success" as Subject line?
I'm glad you asked .
I use two USENET servers, news.supernews.com and
news.mozilla.org, with the similar settings.
There is something odd going on - The bright red for fresh unread
messages makes it easier to spot.
On news.mozilla.org more often than on news.supernews.com, for
folders with a combination of existing unread messages and fresh
unread messages:
1. as each unread message (be it existing or fresh) has it
"read flag" marked,
the unread message count decreases as expected.
2A. for most folders with Petr's code, the folder color goes
from red to black
as the last fresh unread message is marked as read. It then
goes from bold
to normal as the last unread message is marked as read.
The desired/predicted action
2B. for other folders the change
1. from "red to black" does not occur until another folder
is chosen.
2. from "bold to normal" does not occur until another
folder is chosen.
The red makes what I've thought I've been seeing more obvious.
I don't yet have enough firm data to reach any firm conclusions.
Tonight I intend to mark all folders to be repaired - it'll take
a while.
Just now there
1. were fresh unread messages on mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird and
mozilla.support.thunderbird. The folder did not go red.
2. was a fresh unread message on mozilla.support.seamonkey, to
which this replies. The folder was "*BOLD* and *RED*"
until I read it.
It then correctly changed to "*BOLD* and *BLACK* as there
remain old
unread messages in the folder.
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An intriguing success - was [Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]]
On 10/31/2016 9:01 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
SeaMonkey currently sets title to *BOLD* if there are _any_ unread
messages in the folder. This is unnecessarily redundant as my
personal standard is to display the number of un-read messages in the
folder.
I read again (and *carefully*) your message, and I think that this
style will better fit your needs:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
The first part will change colour of account names with new messages,
the second part will change colour of the names of each folder with new
unread messages...
Why "An intriguing success" as Subject line?
I'm glad you asked .
I use two USENET servers, news.supernews.com and
news.mozilla.org, with the similar settings.
There is something odd going on - The bright red for fresh unread
messages makes it easier to spot.
On news.mozilla.org more often than on news.supernews.com, for
folders with a combination of existing unread messages and fresh
unread messages:
1. as each unread message (be it existing or fresh) has it
"read flag" marked,
the unread message count decreases as expected.
2A. for most folders with Petr's code, the folder color goes
from red to black
as the last fresh unread message is marked as read. It then
goes from bold
to normal as the last unread message is marked as read.
The desired/predicted action
2B. for other folders the change
1. from "red to black" does not occur until another folder
is chosen.
2. from "bold to normal" does not occur until another
folder is chosen.
The red makes what I've thought I've been seeing more obvious.
I don't yet have enough firm data to reach any firm conclusions.
Tonight I intend to mark all folders to be repaired - it'll take
a while.
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 11/01/2016 03:23 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 6:11 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> On 10/31/2016 3:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
> I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
>>>
>>> I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
>>> I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
>>> It had no apparent effect.
>>> Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
>>> Thank you for your time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not sure if this is what you are looking for - see:
>> https://s18.postimg.org/5tegmcvrt/highlight.png
>> but if so you can easily put into userChrome.css:
>>
>> /* Make unread messages red and bold */
>> treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
>> color: red !important;
>> font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
>> }
>> /* Folder with unread/new messages */
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
>> {
>>color: red !important;
>> font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
>> }
>>
>> and tweak accordingly.
>>
>> These might be of some help:
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bad_Eyesight_-_Thunderbird
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_and_menu_fonts
>> https://www.eriwen.com/css/tweaking-thunderbirds-chrome/
>>
>
> Not sure if any of the code snippets already posted do quite what
> I was trying for. But in combination with the above links (and
> some implied links) I should have something very useful. I think
> I've have my homework assignment. Thanks to all.
>
I did a bit of a combination of what I had and Petr's (thanks Petr) -
when you have unread messages the account and folder will turn red, when
you get a new incoming message the account and folder (headings) will
turn green so you can tell the difference between unread and new.
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;); /*
set default namespace to XUL */
/* Make unread messages red and bold */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
color: red !important;
font-style: bold; font-size: 15px !important;
}
/* Folder with unread/new messages */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: red !important;
font-weight: bold; font-size: 18px !important;
}
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: green !important;
}
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true)
{
font-weight: bold; font-size: 18px !important;
color: green !important;
}
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/31/2016 6:11 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 10/31/2016 3:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
Not sure if this is what you are looking for - see:
https://s18.postimg.org/5tegmcvrt/highlight.png
but if so you can easily put into userChrome.css:
/* Make unread messages red and bold */
treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
color: red !important;
font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
}
/* Folder with unread/new messages */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: red !important;
font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
}
and tweak accordingly.
These might be of some help:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bad_Eyesight_-_Thunderbird
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_and_menu_fonts
https://www.eriwen.com/css/tweaking-thunderbirds-chrome/
Not sure if any of the code snippets already posted do quite what
I was trying for. But in combination with the above links (and
some implied links) I should have something very useful. I think
I've have my homework assignment. Thanks to all.
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 1/11/2016 5:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/31/2016 9:00 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 31/10/2016 9:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote,
and I quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to
*RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol,
biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
I'm guessing that was just the next part of Petr's user.js file.
All you needed was the five lines between the two
"-(Cut)-" lines.
After you added those five lines to your user.js file, did you
close and re-start SeaMonkey??
Daniel
Not only that, but I had closed SeaMonkey before the edit.
It had been so long since I had last tweaked a user.js I spent a
significant amount of time discovering WHERE user.js existed ;/
and, as Walt has pointed out, the adjustments are not to user.js, but
either userChrome.css or userContent.css.
If you don't have a userChrome.css (I think), use a text editor such as
Notepad to create one.
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 1/11/2016 1:09 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 10/31/2016 10:00 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 31/10/2016 9:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I
quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
I'm guessing that was just the next part of Petr's user.js file.
All you needed was the five lines between the two "-(Cut)-"
lines.
After you added those five lines to your user.js file, did you close
and re-start SeaMonkey??
Daniel
When did style changes start going into the user.js file? I thought they
went into userChrome.css or userContent.css files.
Opps!! Of course!! Guess I'd just become so used to adjusting prefs via
user.js!! ;-(
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
> SeaMonkey currently sets title to *BOLD* if there are _any_ unread
> messages in the folder. This is unnecessarily redundant as my
> personal standard is to display the number of un-read messages in the
> folder.
I read again (and *carefully*) your message, and I think that this
style will better fit your needs:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true)
{
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
The first part will change colour of account names with new messages,
the second part will change colour of the names of each folder with new
unread messages...
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
Hello!
On Monday, 31.10.2016 11:55(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
>>You would try something like this:
>>
>> -(Cut)-
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
>> isServer-true) {
>> font-weight: bold !important;
>> color: red !important;
>> }
>> -(Cut)-
> I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
> I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
> It had no apparent effect.
No, it has nothing to do with user.js
As already wrote WaltS48, you need to use addon Stylish, or you can add
these lines to file userChrome.css in your seamonkey_profile/chrome/
folder (but I personally recommend rather use this addon - it has many
advantages, including the fact that you do not have to restart seamonkey
after each change - style changes take effect immediately)...
> Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
> Thank you for your time.
Simply install the addon Stylish, go to about:addons page, select new
"User Styles" section, click to "Write New Style" button, and copy here
the lines from my original message (and save it). From now, you should
see the name of the folder with the new messages in red...
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish/
https://al-ribat.6in4.net/~nazir/tmp/stylish-new_style.png
https://al-ribat.6in4.net/~nazir/tmp/stylish-new_style-effect.png
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/31/2016 3:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>>On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
>> (in part):
>>
>>>I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
>>
>>You would try something like this:
>>
>> -(Cut)-
>> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
>> isServer-true) {
>> font-weight: bold !important;
>> color: red !important;
>> }
>> -(Cut)-
>>
>>(Stylish addon style)
>>
>
> I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
> I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
> It had no apparent effect.
> Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
> Thank you for your time.
>
>
>
Not sure if this is what you are looking for - see:
https://s18.postimg.org/5tegmcvrt/highlight.png
but if so you can easily put into userChrome.css:
/* Make unread messages red and bold */
treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
color: red !important;
font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
}
/* Folder with unread/new messages */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: red !important;
font-style: Bold; font-size: 15px !important;
}
and tweak accordingly.
These might be of some help:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bad_Eyesight_-_Thunderbird
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_and_menu_fonts
https://www.eriwen.com/css/tweaking-thunderbirds-chrome/
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/31/2016 9:00 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 31/10/2016 9:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote,
and I quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to
*RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol,
biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
I'm guessing that was just the next part of Petr's user.js file.
All you needed was the five lines between the two
"-(Cut)-" lines.
After you added those five lines to your user.js file, did you
close and re-start SeaMonkey??
Daniel
Not only that, but I had closed SeaMonkey before the edit.
It had been so long since I had last tweaked a user.js I spent a
significant amount of time discovering WHERE user.js existed ;/
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/31/2016 06:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I
quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
Use the Stylish extension to create the style is what I think it means.
Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/31/2016 10:00 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 31/10/2016 9:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I
quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
I'm guessing that was just the next part of Petr's user.js file.
All you needed was the five lines between the two "-(Cut)-"
lines.
After you added those five lines to your user.js file, did you close
and re-start SeaMonkey??
Daniel
When did style changes start going into the user.js file? I thought they
went into userChrome.css or userContent.css files.
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 31/10/2016 9:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
I'm guessing that was just the next part of Petr's user.js file.
All you needed was the five lines between the two "-(Cut)-" lines.
After you added those five lines to your user.js file, did you close and
re-start SeaMonkey??
Daniel
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
On 10/30/2016 4:40 PM, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
I assumed that was to be appended to my existing user.js .
I haven't done anything with user.js in several years.
It had no apparent effect.
Did "> (Stylish addon style) " mean something I didn't catch?
Thank you for your time.
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Re: Rephrasing original question - was [ A visual aid for tri-focal generation ]
Hello!
On Sunday, 30.10.2016 12:27(+0100) *Richard Owlett* wrote, and I quote
(in part):
> I wish instead to change the color of the folder title to *RED*.
You would try something like this:
-(Cut)-
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, biffState-NewMail,
isServer-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}
-(Cut)-
(Stylish addon style)
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