Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-15 Thread Ray_Net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 15/10/2014 23:25:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


I'm guessing OldGuy's concern is that GMail's SMTP server replaces the
 From address of any mail sent through it with the GMail address used to
authenticate with the server. So:
- Read an email sent to Hotmail account.
- Reply; SeaMonkey sets the From: address to the Hotmail account.
- Send through GMail's SMTP server.
- GMail rewrites the From: address to the GMail address.
- Recipient sees the email as coming from the GMail address, not the
Hotmail address.

You're supposed to be able to add other addresses to your GMail
account and then be able to send from those without this happening,
but I've never got that to work.


Interesting theory. I have a Gmail account, but have never set up a 
Gmail SMTP server -- I just use one of my other SMTP servers. (since I 
despise webmail, I access Gmail via POP like my other accounts) I 
didn't even know Gmail /had/ an SMTP server until now.



smtp.gmail.com
Port: 465
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication: Normal password
UserName: 
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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


I'm guessing OldGuy's concern is that GMail's SMTP server replaces the
 From address of any mail sent through it with the GMail address used to
authenticate with the server. So:
- Read an email sent to Hotmail account.
- Reply; SeaMonkey sets the From: address to the Hotmail account.
- Send through GMail's SMTP server.
- GMail rewrites the From: address to the GMail address.
- Recipient sees the email as coming from the GMail address, not the
Hotmail address.

You're supposed to be able to add other addresses to your GMail
account and then be able to send from those without this happening,
but I've never got that to work.


Interesting theory. I have a Gmail account, but have never set up a 
Gmail SMTP server -- I just use one of my other SMTP servers. (since I 
despise webmail, I access Gmail via POP like my other accounts) I didn't 
even know Gmail /had/ an SMTP server until now.



Some SMTP servers (particularly those for free mail accounts or ISPs)
refuse to even accept mail with a different From: address.


Yeah, I've seen that. But our guy didn't say his Hotmail messages 
wouldn't go out, just that he didn't want them going through the Gmail 
server.


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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-15 Thread Ray_Net

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote, On 15/10/2014 22:15:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OldGuy wrote:


What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!


You can do it this way, but it's not really important, certainly not
worth this level of angst. Directions in the other responses.

I had a problem last week with one of my SMTP servers, so while they
were working on it I just switched my accounts to a different one. They
all worked fine before, and they all worked fine during the workaround,
and they all work fine now that repairs are complete and I've set them
back.

There's no "crossbreeding" as you call it.


I'm guessing OldGuy's concern is that GMail's SMTP server replaces the 
From address of any mail sent through it with the GMail address used 
to authenticate with the server. So:

- Read an email sent to Hotmail account.
- Reply; SeaMonkey sets the From: address to the Hotmail account.
- Send through GMail's SMTP server.
- GMail rewrites the From: address to the GMail address.
- Recipient sees the email as coming from the GMail address, not the 
Hotmail address.


You're supposed to be able to add other addresses to your GMail 
account and then be able to send from those without this happening, 
but I've never got that to work.


I don't know if Hotmail is similarly nasty.

Some SMTP servers (particularly those for free mail accounts or ISPs) 
refuse to even accept mail with a different From: address.


Mark.

That's normal ... and for my isp - i cannot send mail if i am not 
connected at their domain.

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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-15 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

OldGuy wrote:


What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!


You can do it this way, but it's not really important, certainly not
worth this level of angst. Directions in the other responses.

I had a problem last week with one of my SMTP servers, so while they
were working on it I just switched my accounts to a different one. They
all worked fine before, and they all worked fine during the workaround,
and they all work fine now that repairs are complete and I've set them
back.

There's no "crossbreeding" as you call it.


I'm guessing OldGuy's concern is that GMail's SMTP server replaces the 
From address of any mail sent through it with the GMail address used to 
authenticate with the server. So:

- Read an email sent to Hotmail account.
- Reply; SeaMonkey sets the From: address to the Hotmail account.
- Send through GMail's SMTP server.
- GMail rewrites the From: address to the GMail address.
- Recipient sees the email as coming from the GMail address, not the 
Hotmail address.


You're supposed to be able to add other addresses to your GMail account 
and then be able to send from those without this happening, but I've 
never got that to work.


I don't know if Hotmail is similarly nasty.

Some SMTP servers (particularly those for free mail accounts or ISPs) 
refuse to even accept mail with a different From: address.


Mark.

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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

OldGuy wrote:


What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!


You can do it this way, but it's not really important, certainly not 
worth this level of angst. Directions in the other responses.


I had a problem last week with one of my SMTP servers, so while they 
were working on it I just switched my accounts to a different one. They 
all worked fine before, and they all worked fine during the workaround, 
and they all work fine now that repairs are complete and I've set them back.


There's no "crossbreeding" as you call it.

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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-14 Thread G. Ross

OldGuy wrote:

What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!

How to fix please or I dump SeaMonkey?


Click Edit ->Mail & Newsgroup Accounts Settings
At the bottom of the list Click on Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Click on Add and put in the settings for Hotmail outgoing.

Now go to the Hotmail account and change the outgoing Server to the 
Hotmail SMTP.


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Re: SeaMonkeying Around

2014-10-14 Thread PhillipJones

OldGuy wrote:

What is up with SeaMonkey?

Have GMail account and adding HotMail account.

New Hotmail defaults to Port 110 instead of 995.
I change that to 995

Worse it says it is using GMail as the Outgoing Server and there is no
way I can figure out how to rectify this to HotMail Outgoing as it
should be.

I do not want to crossbreed email accounts!

How to fix please or I dump SeaMonkey?



Go Edit menu > Mail & Newsgroups click on SMTP and click Add name it 
smtp.hotmail.com (or .net or what ever) and set up as hotmail says set 
up  then save. You can use more than SMTP setting. I  have two one for 
comcast and one for Gmail


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