Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

scot...@meditech.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:10:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.

What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?

I set up EverSync (https://www.everhelper.me/) on my home and work PCs.  So far 
it seems to do the job.  The FireFox 13.1.1 version of the extension works in 
SeaMonkey using the extension converter.  The free version does limit the 
number of bookmarks you can have but I thinks its like 5000.  The sync only 
runs every 30 minutes and from my own observations, probably is not as frequent 
as Xmarks but again it seems to do the job of syncing bookmarks and still 
allowing you to use the SeaMonkey Bookmark Manager.



Thanks for this suggestion -- I'm testing EverSync on several computers right 
now. Setup is a little clunky, and the syncing seems a little erratic (not 
reliably every 30 minutes as promised), but probably good enough since I get to 
keep using the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager.

Eversync also has a web interface (similar to BookmarksOS) that's nice for 
gaining access from other computer or other browsers, but nowhere near as 
elegant and flexible as the Seamonkey Bookmark Manager.

For others who may have the same trouble I did getting Eversync to work -- this 
information is critical:
https://everhelper.desk.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1941903-synchronization-buttons-are-inactive-in-firefox

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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

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On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:10:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Spikowski wrote:
> For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
> same on several computers.
> 
> A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
> commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
> modest.
> 
> Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
> Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
> announcement:
> 
> > On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
> > remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
> > remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
> > longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.
> 
> What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?

I set up EverSync (https://www.everhelper.me/) on my home and work PCs.  So far 
it seems to do the job.  The FireFox 13.1.1 version of the extension works in 
SeaMonkey using the extension converter.  The free version does limit the 
number of bookmarks you can have but I thinks its like 5000.  The sync only 
runs every 30 minutes and from my own observations, probably is not as frequent 
as Xmarks but again it seems to do the job of syncing bookmarks and still 
allowing you to use the SeaMonkey Bookmark Manager.
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

scot...@meditech.com wrote:



Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.

What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



I wonder if the "Use own server" option in Xmarks will still function after May 
1?



Hard to know -- here's the official announcement, which doesn't invite 
questions:

Xmarks update On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account 
will remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should remain 
available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no longer sync and 
your Xmarks account will be deactivated. *There will be no impact to your 
LastPass Premium account*. In addition, any remaining balance previously paid 
towards Xmarks will be applied as a credit towards your LastPass Premium 
account.

At LastPass, we’ve staked our claim in password management, and providing our 
community with a high level of password security. After careful consideration 
and evaluation, we have decided to discontinue the Xmarks solution so that we 
can continue to focus on offering the best possible password vaulting to our 
community.

On behalf of the entire LastPass and Xmarks team, we wanted to thank you for your support over the years. If 
you have any questions about your account or LastPass credit, please do not hesitate to reach out to 
https://lastpass.com/supportticket.php 
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



Has anyone used "Bookmarks OS" with Seamonkey? It doesn't sync bookmarks 
directly, but seems to offer similar functionality, and it would let me view my bookmarks 
in different browsers (something Xmarks promised, but could never reliably deliver for 
the Chrome browser).


Actually it's "Bookmark OS" -- I signed up and think it will do the job for me, 
with my bookmarks on a secure web page that's accessible from all browsers and mobile 
devices.

But I'll surely miss the Seamonkey 'Bookmark Manager,' a wonderful 
implementation for managing complex sets of bookmarks
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

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On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:41:29 PM UTC-4, Bill Spikowski wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> > On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital 
> > genius:
> >> J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
> >>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>  For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks 
>  the same on several computers.
> 
>  A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
>  commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee 
>  was modest.
> 
>  Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
>  Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made 
>  this announcement:
> 
> > On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
> > remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
> > remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
> > longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.
> 
>  What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?
> >>>
> >>> As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at the 
> >>> same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile (which 
> >>> includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that folder on 
> >>> multiple computers through the cloud service.
> >>>
> >>> I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
> >>> laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
> >>> current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, everything 
> >>> I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW
> >>
> >> I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.
> >>
> >> But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a 
> >> process is still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but 
> >> when that happens, the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from 
> >> the server, which means I can't see new messages from my other computers. 
> >> That's not really a big problem, but I'm trying to imagine what might 
> >> happen if my profile is located on a cloud service and SM is still running 
> >> on another computer...
> >
> > I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does 
> > sometimes take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some 
> > housekeeping.
> 
> I suppose this problem could be related to my quite old profiles.
> 
> It happens most often on my office WinXP computer (an invisible SM process is 
> still running the next morning!), but it occasionally happens on two of my 
> Win7 machines too.
> 
> Glad to hear this problem isn't widespread!

I wonder if the "Use own server" option in Xmarks will still function after May 
1?
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital genius:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at the same 
time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile (which includes the 
bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that folder on multiple computers 
through the cloud service.

I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and laptop 
are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my current bookmarks 
(and emails!) are there; when I return home, everything I did on the road is 
already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a process is 
still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but when that happens, 
the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from the server, which means I 
can't see new messages from my other computers. That's not really a big 
problem, but I'm trying to imagine what might happen if my profile is located 
on a cloud service and SM is still running on another computer...


I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does sometimes 
take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some housekeeping.


I suppose this problem could be related to my quite old profiles.

It happens most often on my office WinXP computer (an invisible SM process is 
still running the next morning!), but it occasionally happens on two of my Win7 
machines too.

Glad to hear this problem isn't widespread!
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Ed Mullen]

On 4/3/2018 at 8:47 AM, Bill Spikowski created this epitome of digital 
genius:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my 
bookmarks the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to 
a commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and 
the fee was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it 
into Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass 
made this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at 
the same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile 
(which includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that 
folder on multiple computers through the cloud service.


I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, 
everything I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a 
process is still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but 
when that happens, the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from 
the server, which means I can't see new messages from my other 
computers. That's not really a big problem, but I'm trying to imagine 
what might happen if my profile is located on a cloud service and SM is 
still running on another computer...


I've never had to kill SM, never seen it refuse to close.  It does 
sometimes take 10 or 15 seconds to shut down as it's doing some 
housekeeping.



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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov]

Hi Bill,

I suppose you've been using the Sync 1.1 server hosted by Mozilla
Foundation.

You can, however, build and run your own one, provided you can guarantee
24x7 availability.

This is what PaleMoon devs do (you can actually switch to using their
Sync 1.1 server).

Regards,
Andrey.

On 03.04.2018 15:44, Bill Spikowski wrote:
> Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov wrote:
>> Run your own Sync 1.1 server:
>>
>> 
>>
> 
> I thought Sync 1.1 was what I had been using, until it stopped working a
> couple of years ago.
> 
> Is your link about some version of 1.1 that will still work with Seamonkey?
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



Has anyone used "Bookmarks OS" with Seamonkey? It doesn't sync bookmarks 
directly, but seems to offer similar functionality, and it would let me view my bookmarks 
in different browsers (something Xmarks promised, but could never reliably deliver for 
the Chrome browser).
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

EE wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?



You can export bookmarks as HTML and import them into another browser. You can 
do that with both browsers if you want all the bookmarks from both in the same 
places.


EE and Ant -- I've used both methods in the past, and may have to go there 
again! But I'm constantly adding bookmarks on one computer for say articles I 
want to read, and then reading them later in the day or the next day at home, 
then filing the bookmarks for future reference. That's why I'm looking for some 
way to continually sync my bookmarks. Xmarks was a little quirky to say the 
least, but it did the job, and I'll sure miss it!

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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks the 
same on several computers.

A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee was 
modest.

Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made this 
announcement:


On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at the same 
time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile (which includes the 
bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that folder on multiple computers 
through the cloud service.

I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and laptop 
are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my current bookmarks 
(and emails!) are there; when I return home, everything I did on the road is 
already on my desktop.  -JW


I hadn't ever considered doing that; I see how it could work.

But I notice that Seamonkey sometimes doesn't shut down properly; a process is 
still running in the background. I'd hardly even notice but when that happens, 
the email module keeps downloading IMAP messages from the server, which means I 
can't see new messages from my other computers. That's not really a big 
problem, but I'm trying to imagine what might happen if my profile is located 
on a cloud service and SM is still running on another computer...
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Bill Spikowski]

Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov wrote:

Run your own Sync 1.1 server:





I thought Sync 1.1 was what I had been using, until it stopped working a couple 
of years ago.

Is your link about some version of 1.1 that will still work with Seamonkey?
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[Andrey ``Bass'' Shcheglov]

Run your own Sync 1.1 server:



Regards,
Andrey.
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

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On 3/31/2018 5:11 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

...
What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


I just copy my places.sqlite file. Be sure SeaMonkey is not running!
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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

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Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks 
the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee 
was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made 
this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


You can export bookmarks as HTML and import them into another browser. 
You can do that with both browsers if you want all the bookmarks from 
both in the same places.


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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks 
the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee 
was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made 
this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at 
the same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile 
(which includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that 
folder on multiple computers through the cloud service.


I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, 
everything I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW

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