Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

> I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
> editor)

Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New 
work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are you 
transitioning from older legacy pages?

You might want to consider updating by switching to something more modern 
than the ancient Composer. AFAIK, it hasn't been worked on for a long 
time. Perhaps you could at least use the standalone fork called KompoZer.

http://www.kompozer.net/

> and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
> However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables I
> created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have no
> idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like the
> WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

I don't understand what you mean when you say "smashed together" or 
"wrong size". Do you have a better description? (I don't use Windows, so 
no Internet Explorer here.) You may mean that there is no space between 
the words and the pictures. If so, you need padding in the table cells.

"Tables for layout" concept is also quite old. These days we use s 
to create column and layout.

> Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com
> 
> and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
> http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or
> http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

http://www.glamsmash.com/services.html 

> Please help me figure this out, thanks!

>From the Home page:
"based [in] New York City"
"who's [whose] mission is to conceptualize"
"In house [Inhouse] services "

..probably others...

You may check your pages for errors here:

 and 


Questions of this nature should be put to a web-authoring newsgroup, such 
as alt.html

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Philip TAYLOR]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Glamsmash Productions wrote:


I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor)


Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New
work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are you
transitioning from older legacy pages?


There are, sadly, still valid reasons for using HTML 4.01 Transitional.
Consider the following report :


I discovered today that I need to use the
 element in what was, until now, an HTML 4.01 Strict
document.  The reason : CSS "text-decoration" allows only
one value, and thus a stretch of text cannot be both struck-
through (as per MSS) and underlined (used to indicate the
stretch of text to which a dynamically-displayed lexicographic
note applies).


HTML 4.01 Strict does not allow  and hence an element in
HTML 4.01 Strict cannot be both struck-through and underlined.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Glamsmash Productions wrote:
>>> I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
>>> editor)
>>
>> Is this a new web site?  The code underneath looks very much 1990s. New
>> work should be DOCTYPE HTML 4.01 Strict, instead of Transitional. Are
>> you transitioning from older legacy pages?
> 
> There are, sadly, still valid reasons for using HTML 4.01 Transitional.
> Consider the following report :
> 
>> I discovered today that I need to use the  element in what was,
>> until now, an HTML 4.01 Strict document.  The reason : CSS
>> "text-decoration" allows only one value, and thus a stretch of text
>> cannot be both struck- through (as per MSS) and underlined (used to
>> indicate the stretch of text to which a dynamically-displayed
>> lexicographic note applies).
> 
> HTML 4.01 Strict does not allow  and hence an element in HTML 4.01
> Strict cannot be both struck-through and underlined.

 is deprecated. One should use  ...  instead. This 
works, but of course  is deprecated as well.

Text is struck-through and underlined.

Of course, this thread isn't a SeaMonkey problem, but one of web design.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[David E. Ross]

On 4/21/12 11:00 PM, Glamsmash Productions wrote:
> I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
> editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
> However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
> I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
> no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
> the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.
> 
> Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com
> 
> and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
> http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.
> 
> Please help me figure this out, thanks!

Try posting your question to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
newsgroup on a non-Mozilla newsgroup server.

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Ed Mullen]

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!


http://www.granneman.com/webdev/coding/css/centertables/

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Philip TAYLOR]

David E. Ross wrote:


Try posting your question to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
newsgroup on a non-Mozilla newsgroup server.


Alternatively, if the code is exactly as emitted from Seamonkey
Composer, file a bug report that, in certain circumstances, the
composer can emit invalid code :

> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.glamsmash.com/

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Michael Gordon]

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.

Please help me figure this out, thanks!


The first thing you will want to do is make your web document compatible 
for web standards, and then for Internet Explorer.  Within your tables 
declarations you have used a CSS element called: margin-right: auto; and 
margin-left: auto;  IE ignores those elements if the  is not 
compatible.


Your : Transitional//EN">


Change your  to: Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>
Notice the quotes after the EN and the complete doctype.  The entire 
doctype should be on a single line with only one blank space between the 
quots of EN and http://


You will need to modify the doctype in a text editor and set Komposer 
(Composer) to not change the HTML coding when opening a web document.


Good luck,

Michael G

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Re: Tables not showing up right in Internet Explorer

[Ray_Net]

Michael Gordon wrote, On 22/04/2012 23:57:

Glamsmash Productions wrote:

I created my company's website in Sea Monkey Composer (I love the
editor) and the page looks perfect in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
However, when I pull the web pages up in Internet Explorer, the tables
I created are all smashed together or showing the wrong size.  I have
no idea how to fix it.  I am not a big HTML guru, that is why I like
the WYSIWYG editor in Sea Monkey.

Here is the site link:  http://www.glamsmash.com

and example of this issue can be found on every page, especially
http://www.glamsmash.com/about.html or 
http://www.glamsmash.com/services/html.


Please help me figure this out, thanks!


The first thing you will want to do is make your web document 
compatible for web standards, and then for Internet Explorer.  Within 
your tables declarations you have used a CSS element called: 
margin-right: auto; and margin-left: auto;  IE ignores those elements 
if the  is not compatible.


Your : Transitional//EN">


Change your  to: Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>
Notice the quotes after the EN and the complete doctype.  The entire 
doctype should be on a single line with only one blank space between 
the quots of EN and http://


You will need to modify the doctype in a text editor and set Komposer 
(Composer) to not change the HTML coding when opening a web document.


Good luck,

Michael G

So if you must fiddle after SM-composer save. you have a bug in 
SM-composer 

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