Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 
David E. Ross wrote:

> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
> there a way to get wrapping?

Insert line feeds where you want them.

> An example is at , which my
> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
> 
> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.

..and I see the same in all my browsers, not just SeaMonkey or Firefox.
It isn't a problem; it's how plain text is displayed.

http://tekrider.net/test/Wrap_test.txt

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov 

Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/:


When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
there a way to get wrapping?

An example is at , which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.

Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.


I use (since SeaMonkey 1.*) the very handy Toggle Word Wrap extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/toggle-word-wrap/

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread David E. Ross 
On 6/13/11 12:28 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
>> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
>> there a way to get wrapping?
> 
> Insert line feeds where you want them.
> 
>> An example is at , which my
>> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
>>
>> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
>> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
> 
> ..and I see the same in all my browsers, not just SeaMonkey or Firefox.
> It isn't a problem; it's how plain text is displayed.
> 
> http://tekrider.net/test/Wrap_test.txt
> 

Inserting line feeds would work for my own pages.  However, I contrived
my example specifically for this question.

I asked because I have encountered pages by others -- ASCII text, not
HTML -- that do not wrap.  I cannot insert line feeds without first
downloading and editing someone else's work.

I see that you did indeed download and edit my example.  However, if I
shrink my browser window to less than full screen, the problem reappears.

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread David E. Ross 
On 6/13/11 1:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/:
> 
>> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
>> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
>> there a way to get wrapping?
>>
>> An example is at , which my
>> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
>>
>> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
>> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
> 
> I use (since SeaMonkey 1.*) the very handy Toggle Word Wrap extension:
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/toggle-word-wrap/
> 

I tried Toggle Word Wrap.  It is exactly what I need.  Thanks.

I also did some research in the HTML specifications at the W3C site,
both HTML 4.01 and the current draft for HTML 5.  Neither of them
mention how a browser should handle plain ASCII text.  Of course, both
specifications are about HTML while a page of plain ASCII text is not
HTML.  The descriptions of the  element in both specifications say
nothing about wrapping; since the  element is used when text is
preformatted (e.g., with spaces, indentations, columns), wrapping is
likely unwanted at least as a default.

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread MCBastos 
Interviewed by CNN on 13/06/2011 16:28, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the 
world:



When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
there a way to get wrapping?


..and I see the same in all my browsers, not just SeaMonkey or Firefox.
It isn't a problem; it's how plain text is displayed.


Not quite true. SRWare Iron (and therefore, I assume, Google Chrome) 
does wrap the testcase text. But IE9 does not wrap.


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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-13 Thread Philip Chee 
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:24:07 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
> there a way to get wrapping?
> 
> An example is at , which my
> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
> 
> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.

A userContent.css style might be helpful e.g.

pre {
  white-space: pre-wrap;
}

You might need !important

Phil

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread cyberzen 

Stanimir Stamenkov a écrit :

Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/:


When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is
there a way to get wrapping?

An example is at , which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.

Apparently, this is NOT a new problem. I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.


I use (since SeaMonkey 1.*) the very handy Toggle Word Wrap extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/toggle-word-wrap/



excellent !!

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread Ed Mullen 

David E. Ross wrote:

When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
there a way to get wrapping?

An example is at, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.

Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.



Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work.  In 
userContent.css put:


pre {
  white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}

No need for yet another extension.

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread David E. Ross 
On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
>> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
>> there a way to get wrapping?
>>
>> An example is at, which my
>> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
>>
>> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
>> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
>>
> 
> Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work.  In 
> userContent.css put:
> 
> pre {
>white-space: pre-wrap !important;
> }
> 
> No need for yet another extension.
> 

The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
affect ALL text Web pages.  That can disrupt a page that was formatted
for a fixed display the same way that  elements on an HTML Web page
can be used for formatting.

The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread Philip Chee 
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:43:32 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>> When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
>>> the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
>>> there a way to get wrapping?
>>>
>>> An example is at, which my
>>> service's Web server delivers as text/plain.
>>>
>>> Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
>>> 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
>> 
>> Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work.  In 
>> userContent.css put:
>> 
>> pre {
>>white-space: pre-wrap !important;
>> }
>> 
>> No need for yet another extension.
> 
> The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
> affect ALL text Web pages.  That can disrupt a page that was formatted
> for a fixed display the same way that  elements on an HTML Web page
> can be used for formatting.
> 
> The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.

Example

@-moz-document domain(mail.google.com) {
  pre {
white-space: pre-wrap !important;
  }
}

Phil

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread David E. Ross 
On 6/14/11 7:40 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:43:32 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 6/14/11 10:56 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
 the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
 there a way to get wrapping?

 An example is at, which my
 service's Web server delivers as text/plain.

 Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
 2.0.14 and SM 2.1.
>>>
>>> Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work.  In 
>>> userContent.css put:
>>>
>>> pre {
>>>white-space: pre-wrap !important;
>>> }
>>>
>>> No need for yet another extension.
>>
>> The problem is that setting something in userContent.css will then
>> affect ALL text Web pages.  That can disrupt a page that was formatted
>> for a fixed display the same way that  elements on an HTML Web page
>> can be used for formatting.
>>
>> The extension allows me to choose which pages will be wrapped.
> 
> Example
> 
> @-moz-document domain(mail.google.com) {
>   pre {
> white-space: pre-wrap !important;
>   }
> }
> 
> Phil
> 

I don't want to update userContent.css every time I find another page
that I want wrapped.  Also, I might want to view a page wrapped and then
later unwrapped.

I am quite satisfied with the Toggle Word Wrap extension.

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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-14 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov 

Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:56:45 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:


Phil Chee's suggestion in the other thread does work.  In
userContent.css put:

pre {
   white-space: pre-wrap !important;
}

No need for yet another extension.


I usually want that setting dynamically triggered per view (even 
multiple times per view), rather than fixed for a specific site.


The Toggle Word Wrap extension also works in the Mail&News part.  I 
don't think one knows which new message will need to get the setting 
or not.  The extension provides some more magic with plain text 
message composition - (dynamically) suppressing automatic text wrap 
and format=flowed sending (useful for some cases [1]).


[1] "paste unwrapped/preformatted to plain-text mail" 



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Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Merrill 

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/13/11 1:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/:


When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in
the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping.  Is
there a way to get wrapping?

An example is at, which my
service's Web server delivers as text/plain.

Apparently, this is NOT a new problem.  I see the same results with SM
2.0.14 and SM 2.1.


I use (since SeaMonkey 1.*) the very handy Toggle Word Wrap extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/toggle-word-wrap/



I tried Toggle Word Wrap.  It is exactly what I need.  Thanks.

I also did some research in the HTML specifications at the W3C site,
both HTML 4.01 and the current draft for HTML 5.  Neither of them
mention how a browser should handle plain ASCII text.  Of course, both
specifications are about HTML while a page of plain ASCII text is not
HTML.  The descriptions of the  element in both specifications say
nothing about wrapping; since the  element is used when text is
preformatted (e.g., with spaces, indentations, columns), wrapping is
likely unwanted at least as a default.



I think plain text does not wrap but must have end-of-line imbedded.

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