Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
John Cunniff wrote: Hello, Everybody, I got a very important question. I am a list owner of the LISTSERV(R) by L-Soft. I did REVIEW listname then, copied into my notepad to remove my list subscribers' name but e-mail addresses for me to insert into my Composition window. I tried to paste them all, but it failed to do the job. My list is closing tomorrow so, I need to send to ALL subscribers IMPORTANT notice in a private e-mail, not on the soon-to-be-extincted list. Can you help me? Thank you. Have you tried Blind carbon Copy? To make it work right you put your list of email addresses in the BCC and and the put your email address in the To: and send. I don't know if you have to put on an individual line or whether using one line and separating as follows: email address1@, email address2@, email address3@, etc I've received Forwards that were done this way. Then to, some ISP's frown upon the practice of more than 5 or 10 names being CCed or BCCed. AS they consider such actions as spamming. For example my ISP only allows 5. how it should have been handled was starting about 2 months ago their should have been an announcement in each forum on your LISTSERV(R). Then the could have either decided to stay to last second of the last hr on the last Day, or to jump ship at anytime. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
John Cunniff wrote: Hello, Everybody, I got a very important question. I am a list owner of the LISTSERV(R) by L-Soft. I did REVIEW listname then, copied into my notepad to remove my list subscribers' name but e-mail addresses for me to insert into my Composition window. I tried to paste them all, but it failed to do the job. My list is closing tomorrow so, I need to send to ALL subscribers IMPORTANT notice in a private e-mail, not on the soon-to-be-extincted list. Can you help me? If your mailing list is still operating for the moment, you should still be able to post your message to the entire list the way you normally would. If your concern is that recipients will not be able to reply (because the list is vanishing), make sure your content includes a note telling them where they can reply. An explicit Reply-To setting might work, depending on your list settings, but to be absolutely sure, put the reply-to address in the body of your message. But if you must do it the hard way, take and save the list you created as a .CSV or LDIF file, import it into SM as an address book (with a different name from all your other address books!), and then when composing, just select all from that address book: Click the "Address" button, choose the address book from the pull-down list at top, select select any recipient, CTRL-A selects all, click "Bcc." -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Phillip Jones wrote: Then too, some ISP's frown upon the practice of more than 5 or 10 names being CCed or BCCed. AS they consider such actions as spamming. For example my ISP only allows 5. Five is so ridiculously few that you should find a reasonable ISP. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Then too, some ISP's frown upon the practice of more than 5 or 10 names being CCed or BCCed. AS they consider such actions as spamming. For example my ISP only allows 5. Five is so ridiculously few that you should find a reasonable ISP. I thought I had bad restriction having to send my list of 150 @ a speed of 10 email address I am to along with an email 1 hour prior to sending to my ISP Smile ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Smiles wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Then too, some ISP's frown upon the practice of more than 5 or 10 names being CCed or BCCed. AS they consider such actions as spamming. For example my ISP only allows 5. Five is so ridiculously few that you should find a reasonable ISP. I thought I had bad restriction having to send my list of 150 @ a speed of 10 email address I am to along with an email 1 hour prior to sending to my ISP Smile My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Phillip Jones wrote: Smiles wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Then too, some ISP's frown upon the practice of more than 5 or 10 names being CCed or BCCed. AS they consider such actions as spamming. For example my ISP only allows 5. Five is so ridiculously few that you should find a reasonable ISP. I thought I had bad restriction having to send my list of 150 @ a speed of 10 email address I am to along with an email 1 hour prior to sending to my ISP Smile My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. If you could do it to them, they could do it to you. We're better off without that "nuclear option." -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Phillip Jones wrote: >> I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to >> the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive >> out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow >> the equipment completely up. > > If you could do it to them, they could do it to you. Not only that, but he'd most likely be wiping out the zombied PCs of Windows users who don't even know they are sending spam. > We're better off without that "nuclear option." (but it's a thought... ) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. If you could do it to them, they could do it to you. Not only that, but he'd most likely be wiping out the zombied PCs of Windows users who don't even know they are sending spam. We're better off without that "nuclear option." (but it's a thought...) Know that not realistic. but spam P... me off. I did like to federal laws against spamming with a minimum 50 year prison term at hard labor. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: > My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get > spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on > my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every > week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my > good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). > > I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the > originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it > would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment > completely up. That's simply ridiculous. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. That's simply ridiculous. I didn't say it was possible or even practical. I'd just like to see some severe consequences for people considering creating spam or even gathering list to feed to spammer. Its bad enough I have to put up with legitimate advertising. But when I get junk I don't want under any circumstances it make you want to punch their lights out. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. That's simply ridiculous. I didn't say it was possible or even practical. I'd just like to see some severe consequences for people considering creating spam or even gathering list to feed to spammer. Its bad enough I have to put up with legitimate advertising. But when I get junk I don't want under any circumstances it make you want to punch their lights out. When I think of all the resources wasted carrying and storing and delivering their crap, driving costs up for everyone, I get pretty peeved myself. But in the ordinary course of life, I mostly don't see it because it either gets filtered by my ISP or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. I seem to remember reading about some hacker getting serious prison time recently; those are the people who really should be punished. That stuff, and malware and 419 scams, that's what really should be crushed. Maybe they should spend 20 years reinstalling software after HDD reformats... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: . or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. Paul, if it's spam, why do you want to keep it at all. I have my SM set up so that what SM thinks is spam is moved to the Trash folder, which I double-check just to make sure, then the Trash is deleted when SM is closed. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: . or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. Paul, if it's spam, why do you want to keep it at all. I have my SM set up so that what SM thinks is spam is moved to the Trash folder, which I double-check just to make sure, then the Trash is deleted when SM is closed. Daniel My ISP has strict controls Spam but it get through anyway. I keep Spam only long enough to determine if someone I get legit mail from has been listed as Spam. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Daniel wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: . or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. Paul, if it's spam, why do you want to keep it at all. I have my SM set up so that what SM thinks is spam is moved to the Trash folder, which I double-check just to make sure, then the Trash is deleted when SM is closed. That's exactly the point -- to have one final chance to review before it gets deleted. There are times when I get really busy and don't review my spam the same day as I receive it. Seven days is the program default. Like you, I have SM set to empty all Trash folders on exit, which immediately precludes review. It also gives me a way, by monitoring the counts, to see whether I'm getting more or less spam than usual. When my ISP changes its spam filters, I often notice a dramatic change; recently they started labeling all kinds of innocuous messages as "***SPAM***," and I was having to fish them all out of the Junk folder until I changed the settings at the server. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. That's simply ridiculous. I didn't say it was possible or even practical. I'd just like to see some severe consequences for people considering creating spam or even gathering list to feed to spammer. Its bad enough I have to put up with legitimate advertising. But when I get junk I don't want under any circumstances it make you want to punch their lights out. When I think of all the resources wasted carrying and storing and delivering their crap, driving costs up for everyone, I get pretty peeved myself. But in the ordinary course of life, I mostly don't see it because it either gets filtered by my ISP or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. I seem to remember reading about some hacker getting serious prison time recently; those are the people who really should be punished. That stuff, and malware and 419 scams, that's what really should be crushed. Maybe they should spend 20 years reinstalling software after HDD reformats... You know I've been receiving email since sometime in the early 90's starting with local dial-up bulletin boards then the big 3 of Prodigy, CompuServe and AOL then on to AT&T Worldnet as dial-up and for a short time through ISP my cable supplier has and now fully through the cable ISP and except for a modeling amount with AOL never really had a spam problem. Two years into using the cable ISP and being fairly spam free the ISP decided to install antispam software I believe it was Barracuda or something similarly named and wouldn't you know it the very first day they had it installed I got 15 to 20 spam emails through the server but they were all marked "Possible Spam" by the software that was supposed to be stopping it. I tried using the unsubscribe link located at the bottom of this spam but that seemed to generate even more so I just started deleting them as I got them and up until I had to register with a couple of driver downloading sites had become almost spam free. I've always wondered if most of the spam and/or viruses aren't written by the companies also writing the software to get rid of them, similar to the companies that makes the radar detectors people use to keep from getting a speeding ticket are the exact companies that make the radar guns the police use to give you the ticket with therefore creating their own need for being in business. -- Big Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
William Morrison wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. That's simply ridiculous. I didn't say it was possible or even practical. I'd just like to see some severe consequences for people considering creating spam or even gathering list to feed to spammer. Its bad enough I have to put up with legitimate advertising. But when I get junk I don't want under any circumstances it make you want to punch their lights out. When I think of all the resources wasted carrying and storing and delivering their crap, driving costs up for everyone, I get pretty peeved myself. But in the ordinary course of life, I mostly don't see it because it either gets filtered by my ISP or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. I seem to remember reading about some hacker getting serious prison time recently; those are the people who really should be punished. That stuff, and malware and 419 scams, that's what really should be crushed. Maybe they should spend 20 years reinstalling software after HDD reformats... You know I've been receiving email since sometime in the early 90's starting with local dial-up bulletin boards then the big 3 of Prodigy, CompuServe and AOL then on to AT&T Worldnet as dial-up and for a short time through ISP my cable supplier has and now fully through the cable ISP and except for a modeling amount with AOL never really had a spam problem. Two years into using the cable ISP and being fairly spam free the ISP decided to install antispam software I believe it was Barracuda or something similarly named and wouldn't you know it the very first day they had it installed I got 15 to 20 spam emails through the server but they were all marked "Possible Spam" by the software that was supposed to be stopping it. I tried using the unsubscribe link located at the bottom of this spam but that seemed to generate even more so I just started deleting them as I got them and up until I had to register with a couple of driver downloading sites had become almost spam free. I've always wondered if most of the spam and/or viruses aren't written by the companies also writing the software to get rid of them, similar to the companies that makes the radar detectors people use to keep from getting a speeding ticket are the exact companies that make the radar guns the police use to give you the ticket with therefore creating their own need for being in business. You never ever push the unsubscribe button in Spam that is so when you click, they know they have fish on the line. Best thing is mark them as spam and delete them. When I first started on the internet there was no such as spam. its only after IE got started that we started having much spam. I could open another email account but, I would have spam within two weeks. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T."If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: inserting all e-mail addresses
Phillip Jones wrote: > When I first started on the internet there was no such as spam. its > only after IE got started that we started having much spam. IE? Internet Explorer? Whatever would that have to do with spam? > I could open another email account but, I would have spam within two > weeks. If you would be more careful how you pick the name of the email account, you could go forever without spam. And of course not use it in Usenet posts... -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
ISP spam detection v Privacy of information (was: Re: inserting all e-mail addresses)
William Morrison wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 4/8/2010 4:18 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: My ISP is stickler for not been labeled as friendly to spam. Do I get spam. I have one mailbox that I use strictly to catch spam. and even on my good address I still get about 20 pieces of Spam a day. once every week on both account I go into web mail and throw out about 50 on my good account and about 300 pieces in my throw away account. Your ISP not allowing you to send spam is in no way related to the amount of spam you receive (except that it may reduce spam you might have received from other members of your ISP). I wish there was a signal you could push that would send a signal to the originating server that would literally either wipe the drive out so it would not even be able to be reformatted. or would blow the equipment completely up. That's simply ridiculous. I didn't say it was possible or even practical. I'd just like to see some severe consequences for people considering creating spam or even gathering list to feed to spammer. Its bad enough I have to put up with legitimate advertising. But when I get junk I don't want under any circumstances it make you want to punch their lights out. When I think of all the resources wasted carrying and storing and delivering their crap, driving costs up for everyone, I get pretty peeved myself. But in the ordinary course of life, I mostly don't see it because it either gets filtered by my ISP or it gets filtered by the JMC in SeaMonkey. I have it set to delete Junk messages after seven days, and that folder contains 43 messages at the moment -- about six a day from seven different accounts. No big deal with a broadband connection. I seem to remember reading about some hacker getting serious prison time recently; those are the people who really should be punished. That stuff, and malware and 419 scams, that's what really should be crushed. Maybe they should spend 20 years reinstalling software after HDD reformats... You know I've been receiving email since sometime in the early 90's starting with local dial-up bulletin boards then the big 3 of Prodigy, CompuServe and AOL then on to AT&T Worldnet as dial-up and for a short time through ISP my cable supplier has and now fully through the cable ISP and except for a modeling amount with AOL never really had a spam problem. Two years into using the cable ISP and being fairly spam free the ISP decided to install antispam software I believe it was Barracuda or something similarly named and wouldn't you know it the very first day they had it installed I got 15 to 20 spam emails through the server but they were all marked "Possible Spam" by the software that was supposed to be stopping it. I tried using the unsubscribe link located at the bottom of this spam but that seemed to generate even more so I just started deleting them as I got them and up until I had to register with a couple of driver downloading sites had become almost spam free. I've always wondered if most of the spam and/or viruses aren't written by the companies also writing the software to get rid of them, similar to the companies that makes the radar detectors people use to keep from getting a speeding ticket are the exact companies that make the radar guns the police use to give you the ticket with therefore creating their own need for being in business. I've never really thought about this but how are ISP's allowed to "read" your incoming private e-mails to determine for you if they are spam or not?? Is it a U.S. of A. thing, maybe under the Homeland Affairs Department legislation?? My ISP doesn't do it, and I don't think any of the Aussie ISP's do. Don't know the situation with, for example, gmail! Cross posted and follow up set to moz.general Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
