Re: SM2.2 Add-ons Manager searches poorly

2011-07-17 Thread JohnQPublic
Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message
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 On 11-07-15 11:30 PM, JohnQPublic wrote:
 I use the Flashblock add-on in Firefox which comes up OK when I search
 for
 Flashblock with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, along with 23 other
 related
 add-ons. When I try the same search in SeaMonkey2.2, only one add-on is
 found, NoScript, which is related but not what I want. I had to do a
 google
 search to locate the Flashblock website, discover thereby that a
 SeaMonkey
 version is available, and download it directly from there:
 http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
 The latest versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey were released
 a
 week ago on July 8, 2011.

 I think it is more about the version of Flashblock on AMO being
 Firefox-only.
 For instance, if you go to
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/flashblock/ you get
 redirected to
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/, yet
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/noscript/ does not
 redirect.

 In addition, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/
 says Updated July 14, 2011 and For other browsers such as Seamonkey
 2.0, and Netscape 9, please visit our project installation page for the
 latest Flashblock 1.3.x.
 http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html#current;

 So I think the Add-ons manager is just showing add-ons on AMO that are for
 SeaMonkey.

I'm not up on my acronyms so AMO is a mystery but maybe that's not
important. I've figured out that it's probably better to goto the author's
website anyway. For example yesterday I couldn't get Flashblock to install
into a new Firefox profile, but it worked OK from the author's website.
[Apparently the Mozilla servers have problems sometimes, and some
routes/methods work better than others. That was a temporary glitch and it's
working OK today.] I only have 3 special add-ons (extensions/themes) on my
list that I want to always use in Firefox and SeaMonkey so that's not too
much trouble. It would be more of a problem for someone who has a large
number.
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Re: SM2.2 Add-ons Manager searches poorly

2011-07-17 Thread Chris Ilias

On 11-07-17 1:14 PM, JohnQPublic wrote:

Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca  wrote in message
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I think it is more about the version of Flashblock on AMO being
Firefox-only.
For instance, if you go to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/flashblock/  you get
redirected to
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/, yet
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/noscript/  does not
redirect.

In addition,https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/
says Updated July 14, 2011 and For other browsers such as Seamonkey
2.0, and Netscape 9, please visit our project installation page for the
latest Flashblock 1.3.x.
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html#current;

So I think the Add-ons manager is just showing add-ons on AMO that are for
SeaMonkey.


I'm not up on my acronyms so AMO is a mystery but maybe that's not
important.


AMO = addons.mozilla.org

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Re: SM2.2 Add-ons Manager searches poorly

2011-07-16 Thread Chris Ilias

On 11-07-15 11:30 PM, JohnQPublic wrote:

I use the Flashblock add-on in Firefox which comes up OK when I search for
Flashblock with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, along with 23 other related
add-ons. When I try the same search in SeaMonkey2.2, only one add-on is
found, NoScript, which is related but not what I want. I had to do a google
search to locate the Flashblock website, discover thereby that a SeaMonkey
version is available, and download it directly from there:
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
The latest versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey were released a
week ago on July 8, 2011.


I think it is more about the version of Flashblock on AMO being 
Firefox-only.
For instance, if you go to 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/flashblock/ you get 
redirected to 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/, yet 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/noscript/ does not 
redirect.


In addition, 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/ says 
Updated 	July 14, 2011 and For other browsers such as Seamonkey 2.0, 
and Netscape 9, please visit our project installation page for the 
latest Flashblock 1.3.x.

http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation2.html#current;

So I think the Add-ons manager is just showing add-ons on AMO that are 
for SeaMonkey.


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SM2.2 Add-ons Manager searches poorly

2011-07-15 Thread JohnQPublic
I use the Flashblock add-on in Firefox which comes up OK when I search for
Flashblock with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, along with 23 other related
add-ons. When I try the same search in SeaMonkey2.2, only one add-on is
found, NoScript, which is related but not what I want. I had to do a google
search to locate the Flashblock website, discover thereby that a SeaMonkey
version is available, and download it directly from there:
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
The latest versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey were released a
week ago on July 8, 2011.

Another add-on which I use in Firefox is Titlebar Tweaks Plus:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/titlebar-tweaks-plus/
This comes up along with 36 other related add-ons if I search for Titlebar
with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, but SeaMonkey only finds 3 related
add-ons. I also tried a google search and apparently a SeaMonkey version of
this add-on is not available.

Some relevant questions come to mind:

-Did former versions of SeaMonkey search better, or is this a bug in 
SeaMonkey2.2?

-Are a lot fewer add-ons available for SeaMonkey compared to Firefox?

-Are the add-on developers not registering their add-ons properly so they'll
be found with SeaMonkey searches? Or what?

-Is there any way to test/try a Firefox compatible add-on in SeaMonkey if a
SeaMonkey version is not officially available (such as my Titlebar Tweaks
Plus example above)?
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SeaMonkey2.2_portable, Chrome12_portable, Opera11_portable, Iron12_portable,
Maxthon3_portable, IE6, Outlook Express default mail/news, XP Home SP3) 


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Re: SM2.2 Add-ons Manager searches poorly

2011-07-15 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/07/2011 00:30, JohnQPublic told the world:
 I use the Flashblock add-on in Firefox which comes up OK when I search for
 Flashblock with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, along with 23 other related
 add-ons. When I try the same search in SeaMonkey2.2, only one add-on is
 found, NoScript, which is related but not what I want. I had to do a google
 search to locate the Flashblock website, discover thereby that a SeaMonkey
 version is available, and download it directly from there:
 http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
 The latest versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey were released a
 week ago on July 8, 2011.
 
 Another add-on which I use in Firefox is Titlebar Tweaks Plus:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/titlebar-tweaks-plus/
 This comes up along with 36 other related add-ons if I search for Titlebar
 with the Firefox Add-ons Manager, but SeaMonkey only finds 3 related
 add-ons. I also tried a google search and apparently a SeaMonkey version of
 this add-on is not available.
 
 Some relevant questions come to mind:
 
 -Did former versions of SeaMonkey search better, or is this a bug in 
 SeaMonkey2.2?
 
 -Are a lot fewer add-ons available for SeaMonkey compared to Firefox?
 
 -Are the add-on developers not registering their add-ons properly so they'll
 be found with SeaMonkey searches? Or what?
 
 -Is there any way to test/try a Firefox compatible add-on in SeaMonkey if a
 SeaMonkey version is not officially available (such as my Titlebar Tweaks
 Plus example above)?

I think this is not so much a problem with the Seamonkey Add-on search,
but it's just that many, many add-ons are not listed as compatible with
Seamonkey in the first place. Seamonkey Add-on Search will only list
add-ons tagged as Seamonkey-compatible.

The reason a given add-on is not listed as such? I don't know for sure,
there might be several reasons. Perhaps the developer just wasn't
interested in making it Seamonkey-compatible. Or perhaps the developer
did check for Seamonkey compatibility, but didn't knew or didn't
remember how to submit it so it would be listed for Seamonkey too. Or
perhaps it's a separate product (like in the case of Flashblock) and
it's still undergoing the A.M.O. review process.

Keep in mind that before Seamonkey 2, there were significant differences
in making an extension for Firefox/Thunderbird and for Seamonkey. Many
developers never bothered with Seamonkey back then, because it looked
like too much work for too little reward. Even with SM 2, there were
still a few important differences (bookmarks system, for instance) --
and many developers kept ignoring SM.

Nowadays, in the post-2.1 era, Seamonkey is very similar feature-wise to
Firefox and Thunderbird, so it should be easier to make an extension
SM-compatible -- but many still aren't. Convincing developers to support
SM is a long-term project.

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