Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[NoOp]

On 11/17/2010 08:35 PM, David Cox wrote:
> On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:
>> I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
>> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
>>
>> It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
>> on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.
> 
> Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

Interesting... I've suffered from this issue & just set my minimum font
size to 'None' & it resolves the issue for me. However it also affects
mail windows as well (for instance this one), so it would be nice to be
able to set a minimum for mail/news and one for browsing.
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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[Eric]

James wrote:

Eric wrote:

David Cox wrote:

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the
words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc



I've never changed it, but when I go in to about:config it says
default 20

Eric

I have the same problem on some pages, but I never explored the reason
for the overlap that sometimes makes a page unreadable. I usually just
use a different browser. When I look at the SeaMonkey parameters, I see
that "font.minimum-size.th" = 10 and all the others = 0.

I went to the site you cited and had no problems with text overlap. I am
using "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15)
Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10".

I look at the problem and I believe that those that have the skills to
fix the problem probably have different priorities and that it will get
fixed eventually. I am sure that they are already aware of the problem
if they use SeaMonkey.
Well, Thanks everyone for the thoughts.  I've changed the minimum font 
to no min or blank, but the fonts everywhere became too small, so I've 
changed the pixels up, and that seems to work, the overlap is gone, and 
I can read the screen without squinting.


Thanks everyone for the assistance, and I hope this discussion helps 
others who are experiencing similar difficulties.


Eric
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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[James]

Eric wrote:

David Cox wrote:

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the 
words

on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc


I've never changed it, but when I go in to about:config it says 
default 20


Eric
I have the same problem on some pages, but I never explored the reason 
for the overlap that sometimes makes a page unreadable. I usually just 
use a different browser. When I look at the SeaMonkey parameters, I see 
that "font.minimum-size.th" = 10 and all the others = 0.


I went to the site you cited and had no problems with text overlap. I am 
using "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) 
Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10".


I look at the problem and I believe that those that have the skills to 
fix the problem probably have different priorities and that it will get 
fixed eventually. I am sure that they are already aware of the problem 
if they use SeaMonkey.

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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[David Cox]

On 19/11/2010 1:55 PM, Eric wrote:

David Cox wrote:

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc



I've never changed it, but when I go in to about:config it says default 20

Eric

Same here, but look at

Edit - Preferences
Appearance - Fonts
The last item in the list is Minimum font size.

I used to set it to 16 until I had problems like this, now I leave it at 
none and use ctl+/ctl- as required.

When I changed it to 14 I had the problem you describe above.

I hope this helps,
djc



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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[Lemuel Johnson]

Eric wrote:

David Cox wrote:

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc



I've never changed it, but when I go in to about:config it says default 20

Eric
Try Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts.  My as-shipped defaults are 16 
for Proportional, 13 for Monospace, None for Minimum...assuming Western.


lj


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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[Eric]

David Cox wrote:

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc



I've never changed it, but when I go in to about:config it says default 20

Eric
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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[David Cox]

On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.


Do you have a minimum font size set? That can cause frames to overlap.

djc


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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[David E. Ross]

On 11/17/10 5:20 PM, Eric wrote:
> I just checked seamonkey's rendering of 
> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
> 
> It doesn't properly render it.  One of the side frames overlaps the 
> words on another frame.  Though readable, it is annoying.
> 
> Just to be sure that the page was written correctly, I put it through 
> the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";, and it passed.
> 
> I know that it has been said in this group and many others that we 
> should inform the web master that they should be writing pages that meet 
> the "W3" standard, but when it is a "W3" page that doesn't render 
> properly it would seem that there is a bug in the program rendering the 
> page, Seamonkey.
> 
> I haven't had much luck with posting bugs to the bug site, so I am 
> bringing it up here for others to verify the issue I have seen.
> 
> Wouldn't surprise me if I had a setting incorrect in this version of 
> seamonkey, but I am interested to know if anyone else can verify my 
> rendering issue.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Eric

It looks okay to me.  However, I don't see any frames.  The navigation
area on the left side is part of the main page in the form of a sidebar;
I do sidebars on many of my pages without the use of frames.

Windows XP SP3

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15)
Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[Paul B. Gallagher]

W3BNR wrote:


On 11/17/2010 8:20 PM Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.

Just to be sure that the page was written correctly, I put it through
the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";, and it passed.

I know that it has been said in this group and many others that we
should inform the web master that they should be writing pages that meet
the "W3" standard, but when it is a "W3" page that doesn't render
properly it would seem that there is a bug in the program rendering the
page, Seamonkey.

I haven't had much luck with posting bugs to the bug site, so I am
bringing it up here for others to verify the issue I have seen.

Wouldn't surprise me if I had a setting incorrect in this version of
seamonkey, but I am interested to know if anyone else can verify my
rendering issue.

TIA

Eric


WFM (works for me). Using SM 2.0.11pre Windows XP SP-3


Not for me, I get the same overlap of the navigation panel over the left 
edge of the body text. I tried several instances of CTRL-minus and 
CTRL-plus, but no joy -- both pieces shrank or grew proportionally, and 
the navigation panel still overlapped the body text.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) 
Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[JeffM]

Eric wrote:
>I put it through the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";,
>
What else have you tried?
http://google.com/search?q=cache:HdmyepHTpmoJ:kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_SeaMonkey+Many-problems-are-caused-by-incompatible-themes.extensions.or-programming-errors-in-plugins+*-*-new-*-profile+Start.SeaMonkey.2.in.Safe.Mode#SeaMonkey_2
http://tinyurl.com/BasicSeaMonkeyTroubleshooting
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_SeaMonkey#SeaMonkey_2
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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[Gerald Ross]

Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it.  One of the side frames overlaps the
words on another frame.  Though readable, it is annoying.

Just to be sure that the page was written correctly, I put it through
the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";, and it passed.

I know that it has been said in this group and many others that we
should inform the web master that they should be writing pages that meet
the "W3" standard, but when it is a "W3" page that doesn't render
properly it would seem that there is a bug in the program rendering the
page, Seamonkey.

I haven't had much luck with posting bugs to the bug site, so I am
bringing it up here for others to verify the issue I have seen.

Wouldn't surprise me if I had a setting incorrect in this version of
seamonkey, but I am interested to know if anyone else can verify my
rendering issue.

TIA

Eric

No problems using v. 2.0.10 WinXP SP3.

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Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Sometimes the best defense is a
skillful surrender.





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Re: Seamonkey page render issue

[W3BNR]

On 11/17/2010 8:20 PM Eric wrote:

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html

It doesn't properly render it. One of the side frames overlaps the words
on another frame. Though readable, it is annoying.

Just to be sure that the page was written correctly, I put it through
the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";, and it passed.

I know that it has been said in this group and many others that we
should inform the web master that they should be writing pages that meet
the "W3" standard, but when it is a "W3" page that doesn't render
properly it would seem that there is a bug in the program rendering the
page, Seamonkey.

I haven't had much luck with posting bugs to the bug site, so I am
bringing it up here for others to verify the issue I have seen.

Wouldn't surprise me if I had a setting incorrect in this version of
seamonkey, but I am interested to know if anyone else can verify my
rendering issue.

TIA

Eric


WFM (works for me).  Using SM 2.0.11pre  Windows XP SP-3

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Seamonkey page render issue

[Eric]

I just checked seamonkey's rendering of 
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html


It doesn't properly render it.  One of the side frames overlaps the 
words on another frame.  Though readable, it is annoying.


Just to be sure that the page was written correctly, I put it through 
the validator "http://validator.w3.org/";, and it passed.


I know that it has been said in this group and many others that we 
should inform the web master that they should be writing pages that meet 
the "W3" standard, but when it is a "W3" page that doesn't render 
properly it would seem that there is a bug in the program rendering the 
page, Seamonkey.


I haven't had much luck with posting bugs to the bug site, so I am 
bringing it up here for others to verify the issue I have seen.


Wouldn't surprise me if I had a setting incorrect in this version of 
seamonkey, but I am interested to know if anyone else can verify my 
rendering issue.


TIA

Eric
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