Re: Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
On 4/13/2020 11:47 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Frog wrote: Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. All it is is a matter of adding an additional account to your current configs. Seamonkey has no difficulties with connecting with multiple accounts and multiple providers. All that's necessary is File -> New -> Account, and then follow the prompts of the account setup wizard, and put in the necessary settings for AOL. Don't touch your Verizon account at all. Reading between the lines, it sounds like you're a POP user. It's now pretty common that providers presume IMAP, to allow for access from multiple devices (and I think there may be a few providers that don't even offer POP), but if you're using a single computer, there's no reason that you can't continue to use POP, if you prefer it. I'm not aware of any trickiness with AOL's setups. I do know that with Gmail, there's their oAUTH system for authentication, and where you have to configure Gmail for "less secure", because Seamonkey doesn't do oAUTH. In a similar way there's a growing number of providers that are doing some form of multi-factor authentication. I know that my own provider requires a setup of a separate password to use in an external mail client -- it's not the same password used for login at their web site. I'm guessing that AOL doesn't do that, but I could be wrong. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). Once you have the AOL connection working, all your Verizon messages are still there, assuming that you're using POP. At that point, you can drag-and-drop all the messages, either into your AOL account, or into Local Folders. If your Verizon account is IMAP, then you should drag-and-drop all your messages. If the AOL account is IMAP, then dragging into AOL will cause all your messages to be uploaded to AOL's server. If you move everything to Local Folders, then all the content will be stored only on your local hard drive. If your Verizon connection is POP, all your messages are there, and you simply leave the Verizon account there (although you will want to adjust the server settings for that account, so that Seamonkey isn't automatically checking for new messages). For what it's worth, in my own setups, I have content in my Local Folders dating back close to 25 years, on accounts that were discarded long ago, including on proprietary systems, where I was able to import messages into Seamonkey. For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. Just to be on the safe side, it is worth getting a backup of all your data, but that's something that you should be doing as a part of your routine backups. In Windows, Seamonkey's data is in %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . On my own system, I make sure that folder is included in my daily backups, but before I'm doing something with configurations (especially if I'm working at file/folder level), I make sure I copy all that data to somewhere else on the computer. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. There might be a tweak in your settings for MailWasher, where you need to tell it about AOL's server. However, I'm not convinced that you need MailWasher, and for more than one reason. The primary thing is that if you're moving to a new mail address, spammers mostly won't know about the new address, and if you're careful about not broadcasting your address to where the spammers can pick it up, you may not see a lot of spam for MailWasher to handle. Additionally, Seamonkey has native spam-handling capacity, in the same way that Thunderbird does. The Mozilla spam-handling tools may not be as robust as I would like but they do work. That won't prevent download, but a message recognized as spam will be shunted to the Junk folder, where it can be easily discarded, in the same way that you empty trash. However, any user-trained filter needs a measure of training, and you have to watch for both false positives and false negatives, and make corrections. There's several ways to do that, but one way is right-clicking on a message in a folder, and selecting Mark -> either "As Junk" or "As Not Junk", and subsequent messages that are similar will be treated the same way. Even if a message you receive is a vector
Re: Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
Frog wrote: Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. Have I forgotten anything? I will continue using the same Verizon email address on the AOL system. I would welcome any help or guidance with the above that comes my way. Frog It is much easier to setup email using Thunderbird. You enter your name, email address and password in the account wizard. Thunderbird finds the settings for you. You select either POP or IMAP click the "Done" button and the account is created. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
Frog wrote: Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. All it is is a matter of adding an additional account to your current configs. Seamonkey has no difficulties with connecting with multiple accounts and multiple providers. All that's necessary is File -> New -> Account, and then follow the prompts of the account setup wizard, and put in the necessary settings for AOL. Don't touch your Verizon account at all. Reading between the lines, it sounds like you're a POP user. It's now pretty common that providers presume IMAP, to allow for access from multiple devices (and I think there may be a few providers that don't even offer POP), but if you're using a single computer, there's no reason that you can't continue to use POP, if you prefer it. I'm not aware of any trickiness with AOL's setups. I do know that with Gmail, there's their oAUTH system for authentication, and where you have to configure Gmail for "less secure", because Seamonkey doesn't do oAUTH. In a similar way there's a growing number of providers that are doing some form of multi-factor authentication. I know that my own provider requires a setup of a separate password to use in an external mail client -- it's not the same password used for login at their web site. I'm guessing that AOL doesn't do that, but I could be wrong. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). Once you have the AOL connection working, all your Verizon messages are still there, assuming that you're using POP. At that point, you can drag-and-drop all the messages, either into your AOL account, or into Local Folders. If your Verizon account is IMAP, then you should drag-and-drop all your messages. If the AOL account is IMAP, then dragging into AOL will cause all your messages to be uploaded to AOL's server. If you move everything to Local Folders, then all the content will be stored only on your local hard drive. If your Verizon connection is POP, all your messages are there, and you simply leave the Verizon account there (although you will want to adjust the server settings for that account, so that Seamonkey isn't automatically checking for new messages). For what it's worth, in my own setups, I have content in my Local Folders dating back close to 25 years, on accounts that were discarded long ago, including on proprietary systems, where I was able to import messages into Seamonkey. For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. Just to be on the safe side, it is worth getting a backup of all your data, but that's something that you should be doing as a part of your routine backups. In Windows, Seamonkey's data is in %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . On my own system, I make sure that folder is included in my daily backups, but before I'm doing something with configurations (especially if I'm working at file/folder level), I make sure I copy all that data to somewhere else on the computer. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. There might be a tweak in your settings for MailWasher, where you need to tell it about AOL's server. However, I'm not convinced that you need MailWasher, and for more than one reason. The primary thing is that if you're moving to a new mail address, spammers mostly won't know about the new address, and if you're careful about not broadcasting your address to where the spammers can pick it up, you may not see a lot of spam for MailWasher to handle. Additionally, Seamonkey has native spam-handling capacity, in the same way that Thunderbird does. The Mozilla spam-handling tools may not be as robust as I would like but they do work. That won't prevent download, but a message recognized as spam will be shunted to the Junk folder, where it can be easily discarded, in the same way that you empty trash. However, any user-trained filter needs a measure of training, and you have to watch for both false positives and false negatives, and make corrections. There's several ways to do that, but one way is right-clicking on a message in a folder, and selecting Mark -> either "As Junk" or "As Not Junk", and subsequent messages that are similar will be treated the same way. Even if a message you receive is a vector for malware, it is still safe to interact
Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. Have I forgotten anything? I will continue using the same Verizon email address on the AOL system. I would welcome any help or guidance with the above that comes my way. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
