Verizon Log On Challenges...
Hello all, I now have realized, since my previous post about this, that there is something or some program which is blocking my access to verizon.net accounts from my laptop. Using SM 2.30/Vista Business/Lenovo laptop T61 Thank you, SS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
On 11/11/2014 1:39 PM, SamuelS wrote: > Hello all, > > I now have realized, since my previous post about this, that there is > something or some program which is blocking my access to verizon.net > accounts from my laptop. Using SM 2.30/Vista Business/Lenovo laptop T61 > > Thank you, > > SS Some, not all, of the Verizon pages are still using SSL 3.0. Perhaps you turned 'off' the SSL 3.0 option in Privacy & Security? -- Ed, W3BNR HTTP://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Tags by Pick-a-Tag 1.60ß1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
On 11-Nov-14 13:45, W3BNR wrote: On 11/11/2014 1:39 PM, SamuelS wrote: Hello all, I now have realized, since my previous post about this, that there is something or some program which is blocking my access to verizon.net accounts from my laptop. Using SM 2.30/Vista Business/Lenovo laptop T61 Thank you, SS Some, not all, of the Verizon pages are still using SSL 3.0. Perhaps you turned 'off' the SSL 3.0 option in Privacy & Security? WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
SamuelS wrote: > On 11-Nov-14 13:45, W3BNR wrote: >> On 11/11/2014 1:39 PM, SamuelS wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I now have realized, since my previous post about this, that there is >>> something or some program which is blocking my access to verizon.net >>> accounts from my laptop. Using SM 2.30/Vista Business/Lenovo laptop T61 >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> SS >> >> Some, not all, of the Verizon pages are still using SSL 3.0. >> Perhaps you turned 'off' the SSL 3.0 option in Privacy & Security? >> > > WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is > Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing > cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. > > At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. > > bo1953 When I try to log on to Verizon.net, it redirects my to verizon.com where I can log into my account. Why don't you try accessing your account at verizon.com? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
Arnie Goetchius wrote: SamuelS wrote: WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. bo1953 When I try to log on to Verizon.net, it redirects my to verizon.com where I can log into my account. Why don't you try accessing your account at verizon.com? True for webmail access, but not for POP. Workable settings here: Server Name: pop.verizon.net User Name: aflgihag Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password where "aflgihag" is your email prefix (the part before the "@" sign). There may be other workable possibilities, but this set has worked for me for two years. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Arnie Goetchius wrote: >> SamuelS wrote: >>> WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is >>> Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing >>> cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. >>> >>> At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. >>> >>> bo1953 >> When I try to log on to Verizon.net, it redirects my to verizon.com >> where I can log into my account. Why don't you try accessing your >> account at verizon.com? > > True for webmail access, but not for POP. Workable settings here: > Server Name: pop.verizon.net > User Name: aflgihag > Port: 995 > Connection Security: SSL/TLS > Authentication method: Normal password > where "aflgihag" is your email prefix (the part before the "@" sign). > There may be other workable possibilities, but this set has worked for > me for two years. > I agree with you for POP issues. But when he first discussed the issue in another thread, he started by stating "Until recently I have been able to log into verizon.net to pay billing and check email. Today I go and cannot log in, especially to pay bills." I assumed this was a continuation of that because you cannot pay bills at Verizon.net. If this thread was not a continuation, my mistake. Sorry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: SamuelS wrote: WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. bo1953 When I try to log on to Verizon.net, it redirects my to verizon.com where I can log into my account. Why don't you try accessing your account at verizon.com? True for webmail access, but not for POP. Workable settings here: Server Name: pop.verizon.net User Name: aflgihag Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password where "aflgihag" is your email prefix (the part before the "@" sign). There may be other workable possibilities, but this set has worked for me for two years. I agree with you for POP issues. But when he first discussed the issue in another thread, he started by stating "Until recently I have been able to log into verizon.net to pay billing and check email. Today I go and cannot log in, especially to pay bills." I assumed this was a continuation of that because you cannot pay bills at Verizon.net. If this thread was not a continuation, my mistake. Sorry You're probably right, but I don't have time to chase down the other thread, wherever that may be. And the OP should probably ask Verizon for the correct settings. Of course, tech support may not be helpful because many webmasters assume that all user systems are configured just as their own systems are -- same version of IE, same default settings, same cookie policies (always accept all), etc. With that many false assumptions, it's hard to troubleshoot. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: SamuelS wrote: WB3 - Thank you for the input, I checked SSL settings and SSL 3.0 is Enabled. I tried unchecking and rechecking the box, along with clearing cache and cookies and still a challenge to log on to the system. At a loss on this one... but thank you regardless. bo1953 When I try to log on to Verizon.net, it redirects my to verizon.com where I can log into my account. Why don't you try accessing your account at verizon.com? True for webmail access, but not for POP. Workable settings here: Server Name: pop.verizon.net User Name: aflgihag Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password where "aflgihag" is your email prefix (the part before the "@" sign). There may be other workable possibilities, but this set has worked for me for two years. I agree with you for POP issues. But when he first discussed the issue in another thread, he started by stating "Until recently I have been able to log into verizon.net to pay billing and check email. Today I go and cannot log in, especially to pay bills." I assumed this was a continuation of that because you cannot pay bills at Verizon.net. If this thread was not a continuation, my mistake. Sorry In the browser verizon.net redirects me to verizon.com where I have no trouble signing in and accessing my bill with SSL 3.0 disabled. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/33.0 SeaMonkey/2.30 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
On 12/11/2014 18:27, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > And the OP should probably ask Verizon for the correct settings. Of > course, tech support may not be helpful because many webmasters assume > that all user systems are configured just as their own systems are -- > same version of IE, same default settings, same cookie policies (always > accept all), etc. With that many false assumptions, it's hard to > troubleshoot. What's IE's market share in the USA these days? Assuming a single (probably minority) browser is quite myopic. Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
Mason83 wrote: On 12/11/2014 18:27, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: And the OP should probably ask Verizon for the correct settings. Of course, tech support may not be helpful because many webmasters assume that all user systems are configured just as their own systems are -- same version of IE, same default settings, same cookie policies (always accept all), etc. With that many false assumptions, it's hard to troubleshoot. What's IE's market share in the USA these days? Assuming a single (probably minority) browser is quite myopic. Yeah, well, lots of people are myopic. Lots of people smoke, lots of people are overweight, lots of people vote for the party opposed to mine. ;-) It's not the best way to go, but it's common enough that any model of the real world has to account for it. Almost any assumption about an entire population is wrong -- just look at the diversity of opinions and practices here in this little forum. If you're doing tech support, it's easier to learn one set of answers and brush everyone else off as "unsupported." Lazy, unhelpful, dysfunctional, incompetent... but once again, commonplace. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Verizon Log On Challenges...
On 14/11/2014 18:01, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Mason83 wrote:
>
>> On 12/11/2014 18:27, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> And the OP should probably ask Verizon for the correct settings. Of
>>> course, tech support may not be helpful because many webmasters assume
>>> that all user systems are configured just as their own systems are --
>>> same version of IE, same default settings, same cookie policies (always
>>> accept all), etc. With that many false assumptions, it's hard to
>>> troubleshoot.
>>
>> What's IE's market share in the USA these days?
>> Assuming a single (probably minority) browser is quite myopic.
>
> Yeah, well, lots of people are myopic. Lots of people smoke, lots of
> people are overweight, lots of people vote for the party opposed to
> mine. ;-)
>
> It's not the best way to go, but it's common enough that any model of
> the real world has to account for it. Almost any assumption about an
> entire population is wrong -- just look at the diversity of opinions and
> practices here in this little forum.
>
> If you're doing tech support, it's easier to learn one set of answers
> and brush everyone else off as "unsupported." Lazy, unhelpful,
> dysfunctional, incompetent... but once again, commonplace.
But it doesn't even make business sense...
When IE6 had 90% market share, it was not unreasonable to ignore
everything else.
But these days, IE is hovering around 33% aggregated, split into
12% for IE11 and 3-5% for IE{8,9,10}
Assuming e.g. IE11 means ignoring 90% of one's user-base...
Regards.
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