Wells Fargo
Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? Thanks, ST ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? Thanks, ST The was discussed not too long ago. Just click on View/Use Style/None and you will have both Username and Password fill boxes. Once logged in, you should be able to restore the style to Default. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for > the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior > versions. Any suggestions? There is nothing in 1.1.14 that makes it worth the hassle, go back to 1.1.13 which doesn't have the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
robert.ga...@att.net wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? Thanks, ST The was discussed not too long ago. Just click on View/Use Style/None and you will have both Username and Password fill boxes. Once logged in, you should be able to restore the style to Default. Hello, Thanks that worked. ST ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
Robert Kaiser wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. Robert Kaiser This does not tell me why it used to work with 1.1.13 and no longer works with 1.1.14. Could you please elaborate? Thanks -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > ST wrote: >> Hello, >> >> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for >> the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior >> versions. Any suggestions? > > This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their > JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. > > Robert Kaiser Then would it be cause for concern that: 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) do render the password box? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
NoOp wrote: On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. Robert Kaiser Then would it be cause for concern that: 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) do render the password box? also add to that list: FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 which doesn't. Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password box, but not FF2 or SM1. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: NoOp wrote: On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. Robert Kaiser Then would it be cause for concern that: 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) do render the password box? also add to that list: FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 which doesn't. Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password box, but not FF2 or SM1. Do you have all these installed on the same machine? :=) You do seem to be "insecure" in the way you browse the Internet! Sorry, could not resist it! -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
John Doue wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: NoOp wrote: On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. Robert Kaiser Then would it be cause for concern that: 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) do render the password box? also add to that list: FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 which doesn't. Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password box, but not FF2 or SM1. Do you have all these installed on the same machine? yes :=) what in blazes is that!? You do seem to be "insecure" in the way you browse the Internet! only for testing Sorry, could not resist it! apology accepted :-) -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > NoOp wrote: > > On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > >> ST wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for > >>> the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior > >>> versions. Any suggestions? > >> This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their > >> JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. > >> > >> Robert Kaiser > > > > Then would it be cause for concern that: > > > > 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux > > i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre > > > > 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) > > Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) > > > > do render the password box? > > also add to that list: > > FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 > > which doesn't. > > Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock > 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon > 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password > box, but not FF2 or SM1. > That's because the issue is due to a change in Gecko 1.8.1.19 so it only affects SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and Firefox 2.0.0.19, likely this - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379959 Both Wells Fargo and Gecko are at fault here, while Wells Fargo certainly shouldn't be using Gecko specific stuff, clearly a change in Gecko 1.8.1.19 has caused an incompatibility to appear. Users shouldn't have to use a workaround to access a site properly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
On 12/23/2008 10:45 AM, asmpgmr wrote: > > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: >> NoOp wrote: >> > On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: >> >> ST wrote: >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for >> >>> the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior >> >>> versions. Any suggestions? >> >> This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their >> >> JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. >> >> >> >> Robert Kaiser >> > >> > Then would it be cause for concern that: >> > >> > 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux >> > i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre >> > >> > 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) >> > Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) >> > >> > do render the password box? >> >> also add to that list: >> >> FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; >> rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 >> >> which doesn't. >> >> Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock >> 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon >> 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password >> box, but not FF2 or SM1. >> > > That's because the issue is due to a change in Gecko 1.8.1.19 so it > only affects SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and Firefox 2.0.0.19, likely this - > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379959 > > Both Wells Fargo and Gecko are at fault here, while Wells Fargo > certainly shouldn't be using Gecko specific stuff, clearly a change in > Gecko 1.8.1.19 has caused an incompatibility to appear. Users > shouldn't have to use a workaround to access a site properly. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379959 leads to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470049 which leads to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470461 and I suspect more/older bugs. Anyway, FWIW I just tested w/1.8.1.21 (SM 1.1.15pre) and the issue exists there as well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
NoOp wrote: > On 12/23/2008 10:45 AM, asmpgmr wrote: > > > > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > >> NoOp wrote: > >> > On 12/23/2008 04:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > >> >> ST wrote: > >> >>> Hello, > >> >>> > >> >>> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for > >> >>> the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior > >> >>> versions. Any suggestions? > >> >> This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their > >> >> JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. > >> >> > >> >> Robert Kaiser > >> > > >> > Then would it be cause for concern that: > >> > > >> > 1. SeaMonkey 2.0a3pre: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux > >> > i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081222 SeaMonkey/2.0a3pre > >> > > >> > 2. Firefox 3.0.5: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) > >> > Gecko/2008121621 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) > >> > > >> > do render the password box? > >> > >> also add to that list: > >> > >> FF2: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; > >> rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081201 Firefox/2.0.0.19 > >> > >> which doesn't. > >> > >> Interesting that Netscapes 4.8. 7.2, 8.x, 9.x, Flock > >> 1.2.6, Mozilla Suite 1.7.13, Songbird 1.0.0, K-Meleon > >> 1.5.1, Opera, Safari, and even Chrome show the password > >> box, but not FF2 or SM1. > >> > > > > That's because the issue is due to a change in Gecko 1.8.1.19 so it > > only affects SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and Firefox 2.0.0.19, likely this - > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379959 > > > > Both Wells Fargo and Gecko are at fault here, while Wells Fargo > > certainly shouldn't be using Gecko specific stuff, clearly a change in > > Gecko 1.8.1.19 has caused an incompatibility to appear. Users > > shouldn't have to use a workaround to access a site properly. > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379959 > leads to > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470049 > which leads to >https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470461 > and I suspect more/older bugs. > > Anyway, FWIW I just tested w/1.8.1.21 (SM 1.1.15pre) and the issue > exists there as well. This has happened before though I believe this particular instance of it applies to Gecko 1.9 (Firefox 3) - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387971 The fix in bug 379959 is what caused the regression. Bug 470049 is a tech evangelism bug to get Wells Fargo to fix their site (which they should). Bug 470461 has a Gecko 1.8.1.x fix for the issue but hasn't landed yet, once it lands then check the following nightly build. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
John Doue wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. This does not tell me why it used to work with 1.1.13 and no longer works with 1.1.14. Could you please elaborate? Thanks https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470049 contains the story, basically. What happens is that they deliver a part of the login page through a third-party page they don't control, which we block because it's an insecure thing to do and could possibly lead to password hijacking and such things. In Firefox 3 and SeaMonkey 2 we allow such content to be loaded by applying additional checks to make sure it cannot be misused, but that needs Gecko to use even more code that the developers didn't want to introduce into the stable version used by Firefox 2 and SeaMonkey 1.1.x. It's IMHO a bug of Wells Fargo to load parts of their login page through the third-party service of Akamai which they can not control and so don't even know for sure what people see on the login page. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
Robert Kaiser wrote: > John Doue wrote: > > Robert Kaiser wrote: > >> ST wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for > >>> the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior > >>> versions. Any suggestions? > >> > >> This is because they are using insecure (!) methods to do their > >> JavaScript on that page, unfortunately. > >> > > This does not tell me why it used to work with 1.1.13 and no longer > > works with 1.1.14. Could you please elaborate? Thanks > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470049 contains the story, > basically. > > What happens is that they deliver a part of the login page through a > third-party page they don't control, which we block because it's an > insecure thing to do and could possibly lead to password hijacking and > such things. In Firefox 3 and SeaMonkey 2 we allow such content to be > loaded by applying additional checks to make sure it cannot be misused, > but that needs Gecko to use even more code that the developers didn't > want to introduce into the stable version used by Firefox 2 and > SeaMonkey 1.1.x. > > It's IMHO a bug of Wells Fargo to load parts of their login page through > the third-party service of Akamai which they can not control and so > don't even know for sure what people see on the login page. Any idea what they're trying to accomplish by using: and the Akamai XBL stuff ? It seems like they shouldn't need the span and XBL stuff at all. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
ST wrote: Hello, After updating to 1.1.14, when I go to www.wellsfargo.com, the line for the password entry box is gone! This has never happened with prior versions. Any suggestions? Thanks, ST Got the same problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: snip :=) what in blazes is that!? :-) + :-) ! :-) - John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Wells Fargo Won't Accept New Password
Win 7 SM 2.33.1 Changed my password at Wells Fargo. Logged off and then logged in. Entered new password and SM said "Remember?" and I said yes. Wells Fargo would not accept the new password. Went to Password Manager and verified that SM had stored the new password. It had. The only way to login was to delete all cookies associated with Wells Fargo. After that, everything worked okay. Also changed passwords on TD banking without the problem described above. Had no problem with Wells Fargo using IE 11, FireFox or Google ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Wells Fargo Won't Accept New Password
njoracle wrote: Win 7 SM 2.33.1 Changed my password at Wells Fargo. Logged off and then logged in. Entered new password and SM said "Remember?" and I said yes. Wells Fargo would not accept the new password. Went to Password Manager and verified that SM had stored the new password. It had. The only way to login was to delete all cookies associated with Wells Fargo. After that, everything worked okay. Also changed passwords on TD banking without the problem described above. I've never had that problem with WF, but perhaps that's because I never store bank passwords on my computer... a word to the wise. I do accept their cookies, of course -- can't log in without them. But since I'm paranoid, I routinely clear them the moment I log out. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
