Re: What controls system font size?
»Q« wrote: There should be something in the font dialog that forces a minimum font size. What about Edit Preferences Appearance Fonts Minimum font size? HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
»Q« wrote: On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:27:30 +1100 Danield...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? The LCD is won't do the 1024 portion. the old CRT was a square design and the LCD is wide screen design. Even setting the system (Win XP) properties to show larger icons/text doesn't cut it in SM. System looks fine, SM small. So, if you were to select any of the screen resolutions that has a vertical resolution of 1280 (like your old CRT had), how do the icon appear? Any to your liking? No, they appear squished. One good way to calibrate the screen is to load Google Earth and then with the globe visible, make it round. that sets a good approximation. Somethings wrong then! My understanding is that 1280x1024 means there are 1280 dots per inch on the vertical axis and 1024 on the horizontal. Similarly 1440x990 means there are 1440 on the vertical and 990 on the horizontal. If you are selecting a vertical setting of 1280, for characters to appear squished, you must be selecting a horizontal setting of well under 1024. The dimensions such as 1280x1024 are the width and height of the screen in pixels, not dots per inch. That makes sense! Even as I was typing my last, I was thinking about a 0.28 millimeter dot size that I recalled from an not so old monitor wondering how they got from about 100 dpi to over 1200 dpi so quick!! Daniel (using his sister's computer) (Test driving SM 2.x) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:27:30 +1100 Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? The LCD is won't do the 1024 portion. the old CRT was a square design and the LCD is wide screen design. Even setting the system (Win XP) properties to show larger icons/text doesn't cut it in SM. System looks fine, SM small. So, if you were to select any of the screen resolutions that has a vertical resolution of 1280 (like your old CRT had), how do the icon appear? Any to your liking? No, they appear squished. One good way to calibrate the screen is to load Google Earth and then with the globe visible, make it round. that sets a good approximation. Somethings wrong then! My understanding is that 1280x1024 means there are 1280 dots per inch on the vertical axis and 1024 on the horizontal. Similarly 1440x990 means there are 1440 on the vertical and 990 on the horizontal. If you are selecting a vertical setting of 1280, for characters to appear squished, you must be selecting a horizontal setting of well under 1024. The dimensions such as 1280x1024 are the width and height of the screen in pixels, not dots per inch. 1440x990 would be a very strange ratio, 16:11. I expect that's a typo, and it's really 1440x900, a fairly common 8:5 ratio for wide screens. In any case, SeaMonkey should be able to display things ok at the monitor's native resolution, and forcing an LCD monitor into other resolutions isn't likely to help any. There should be something in the font dialog that forces a minimum font size. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? The LCD is won't do the 1024 portion. the old CRT was a square design and the LCD is wide screen design. Even setting the system (Win XP) properties to show larger icons/text doesn't cut it in SM. System looks fine, SM small. So, if you were to select any of the screen resolutions that has a vertical resolution of 1280 (like your old CRT had), how do the icon appear? Any to your liking? -- Daniel (using his sister's computer) (Test driving SM 2.x) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? The LCD is won't do the 1024 portion. the old CRT was a square design and the LCD is wide screen design. Even setting the system (Win XP) properties to show larger icons/text doesn't cut it in SM. System looks fine, SM small. So, if you were to select any of the screen resolutions that has a vertical resolution of 1280 (like your old CRT had), how do the icon appear? Any to your liking? No, they appear squished. One good way to calibrate the screen is to load Google Earth and then with the globe visible, make it round. that sets a good approximation. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? -- Daniel (using his sister's computer) (Test driving SM 2.x) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Daniel wrote: Tony wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? I have a related question: where can I change the default view for text from 100% to 110% on a permanent basis. I know how to change it under View -- Text Zoom --Other The reason I ask is that I recently replaced my 17 CRT (resolution set to 1280x1024 and was very readable) for a 19 LCD (resolution is 1440x990). Certain sites like Foxnews.com are relatively tiny at 100% but 110% is good. Changing the font sizes in preferences under appearance doesn't help. Tony, if you set the resolution on the LCD to the same 1280x1024 as you had on the CRT, how do things look?? or is this size not available on the LCD?? The LCD is won't do the 1024 portion. the old CRT was a square design and the LCD is wide screen design. Even setting the system (Win XP) properties to show larger icons/text doesn't cut it in SM. System looks fine, SM small. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. GNOME config panel, whatever it's called. We are following whatever GNOME/GTK set there. The SM 1.1.13 from Fedora has little tiny fonts for File Edit View and other text in the grey areas, while the Linux version from Mozilla download has normal sizes. So I highly doubt that it's an issue with GTK, I think someone was trying to customize it for Fedora and messed it up, I just can't find out where. I would expect both releases to use the same GTK information. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Bill Davidsen:
The SM 1.1.13 from Fedora has little tiny fonts for File Edit View and other
text in the grey areas, while the Linux version from Mozilla download has
normal sizes. So I highly doubt that it's an issue with GTK, I think someone
was
trying to customize it for Fedora and messed it up, I just can't find out
where.
I am using this snippet for this purpose.
- userChrome.css -
* {
font-size: 11pt !important;
font-family: arial !important;
}
---
Hartmut
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Re: What controls system font size?
Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. The Fedora Linux releases of seamonkey have those fonts set to something very small (perhaps 4-6pt) and I can't seem to change them. Tried: - font settings in about:config - using other themes The first changes font sizes in the browser or mail text display, but not the subjects display or the grey (in classic theme) area. I'm out of ideas, where are these set? And as a side issue, shouldn't their size be in about:config? You should be able to reach your font settings via EditPreferencesAppearance about:config here shows: font.minimum-size.x-western;17 font.size.fixed.x-western;17 font.size.variable.x-western;17 -- -Rinaldi- Being disintegrated makes me ve-ry an-gry! huff, huff ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What controls system font size?
Bill Davidsen wrote: That is, the fonts used to present menus, etc. are you talking about menus on websites, or SM menus? And whats etc? -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
