On 9/8/11 8:14 AM, Ray_Net wrote: > Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: >> Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:00:09 +0200, /Ray_Net/: >>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: >>>> Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:44:04 +0200, /Ray_Net/: >>>> >>>>> On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see: >>>>> Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte <smiling smiley> >>>>> >>>>> The "J" in Windings font is a smiling smiley >>>>> But SM show me only a "J". >>>> >>>> The Wingdings font doesn't have an Unicode character map [1] and is >>>> generally useless. MS allows one to write content like "J" but then >>>> when >>>> used with Wingdings to render the glyph at "absolute" position >>>> corresponding to "J" in the font. Mozilla and other browsers wouldn't >>>> find appropriate glyph mapped to "J" in that font >>> >>> When i use Word and i typed JJJ and i change the font of the second >>> "J" in Windings, i see a smiling face instead of the "J". >> >> The fact that you type J means the content contains exactly this >> character and not some other like "smiling face". A non-visual agent >> would read it as J and not as "smiling face". The fact that you see >> it as "smiling face" using Windings font in Outlook doesn't change the >> meaning of the character you encoded - J. It is presentational >> artifact specific to Outlook. >> >>>> so the will find a >>>> substitute font to render it. Outlook users should really write "☺" >>>> (smiling face) and not "J". >>> >>> How can i tell what he must do in outlook, because there is no ☺ on >>> the keyboard ? >>> >>> Additionnal question, how can i type ☺ here ?(i had just copy/pasted >>> of your character) >> >> On Windows one may use the Character Map (Programs / Accessories / >> System Tools), set "Character set: Unicode", "Group by: Unicode >> Subrange", then from the "Group By" palette select "Symbols & >> Dingbats" and search for a font which contains the smiley. On my >> system the "Courier New" font appears to contain it. Double click the >> character to add it to the "Character to copy" field, then copy and >> paste where needed. >> >> An easier variant seems to be Alt+code >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_code>: >> >> | The following method can be used on Microsoft Windows to enter >> | any Unicode codepoint as a hexadecimal number: >> | >> | * Set the registry key HKCU\Control Panel\Input >> | Method\EnableHexNumpad to type REG_SZ and value 1 and reboot. >> | * Keep the Alt key pressed. Press the "+" key on the numeric >> | keypad. >> | * With the Alt key still pressed, type the hexadecimal number >> | using the numeric keypad for digits 0-9 and the normal keys for >> | a-f. For example, type +11b to produce ě (e with caron). >> >> I guess one will need to press Alt+263A to insert the smiling face >> (but note the Registry setting first). >> >>>> A guy, David McRitchie, has some notes on it regarding Firefox but it >>>> equally applies (or equally doesn't apply anymore) to SeaMonkey: >>>> >>>> http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/firefox.htm#wingdings >>>> http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/wingdings.htm >>>> >>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmap_%28font%29 >>> >>> Looks that those bugs are closed evenwhile not resolved ... >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90643 >>> says: >>> This bug will cause my websites to have to suggest not using Firefox >>> as it is necessary to use Greek symbols and the symbol font. It >>> works in all other browsers making Firefox incompatible with all >>> others. >>> and: >>> It is strange to ignore this bug. >>> I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as "J". >> >> As explained elsewhere, this is normal way things are supposed to >> work. The other way is just a non-standard quirk. >> > This is a line using SM newsgroup with Wingdings characters. > This is a line using SM newsgroup with courier new characters. > This is a line using SM newsgroup with Brush Script MT characters. > > > As we can see SM is able to use and display the characters correctly for > nearly all fonts, but refuse it to do with Wingdings. >
All I see are three lines rendered with Courier New. I do have Wingdings installed but not Brush Script. I have the Brush Script font file, but I have my font manager park it in an uninstalled bin. After closing your message (quoted above), I used my font manager to install Brush Script and reopened your message. The third line was still rendered in Courier New. More important, what should I (or anyone else) see if I did not have Wingdings installed? If you composed the message via Outlook or Word, what should I see if I did not have Wingdings installed? Did you read the page at <http://webtips.dan.info/char.html> as I previously suggested? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
