Re: [Sursound] Flux Ircam Tools

2012-10-10 Thread HAIGELBAGEL PRODUCTIONS
Keep an eye out for "specials" Sometimes Ircam Tools go on sale for half 
price.


Cheers,

Haig

On 11/10/2012 1:41 AM, Dave Malham wrote:

Spat has supported B format for quite a long time and is (or at least
was - I haven't used it for a decade or so) quite a nice piece of
software, but I do think it's rather expensive at around a 1000 Euros.

 Dave

On 10 October 2012 15:25, Moritz Fehr  wrote:

Hi List,

do you have experience with the Flux Ircam Tools? I am especially interested if 
it is possible to work in Spat using B-Format.

Regards,
Moritz



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Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-10 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:03:04AM +0200, Fabio Kaiser wrote:
 
> So my concern is with finding a uniform distribution of points
> on a hemisphere. Assuming L available points my approach of
> checking uniformity is that:
> 
> - Making an educated guess of a L-point distribution on hemisphere
> - Mirror down to southern hemisphere to get a full sphere point distribution 
> LS
> - Compute Spherical Harmonic matrix Y with order N <= sqrt(LS)-1
> - Compute condition Number, k = cond(Y'*Y)
> - If k is close to one, the distribution is quite uniform

A valid approach, the only problem is when you truncate the
actual implementation to the 'above the horizon' speakers
things won't work as expected. Even if you want to reproduce
only sources with positive elevation you need speakers with
negative elevation, not the full down hemisphere, but some.
At least if the result has to be 'Ambisonic'.

You can compare creating a source image between some speakers
to interpolation in the time domain. The simplest way is linear
interpolation, just use the two nearest samples. In the spatial
domain this corresponds to pairwise panning (2D) or VBAP (3D).  
Ambisonics OTOH is similar to 'constant bandwidth' interpolation.
This requires more samples than just the nearest ones, i.e. below
the horizon speakers even for a hemisphere.

Apart from that, a simple way to get good and very practical (but
slightly suboptimal in the number of speakers required) 3D layouts
is to use rings at specific elevations. The number of speakers
required in each ring is proportional to the cosine of the elevation.
For example, a system using (bottom to top) 1 + 6 + 8 + 6 + 1 speakers
(the rings of 6 at +/- 45 degrees) will do 3rd order 3D perfectly.
You can leave out the nadir and zenith speakers if you don't have
significant sources there, this requires only minor changes to the
decoder.

Ciao,

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[Sursound] WANTED -Soundfield SPS200 or other portable Soundfield microphone system

2012-10-10 Thread Dan
Hi all. 

I'm looking to buy a soundfield mic for a self-funded on-going ambisonic
project. In an ideal world I would love to go and treat myself to a ST450
with all of the bells and whistles but unfortunately that is just not an
option.

If any of you guys have any kit gathering dust that you might like to part
with, please get in touch.

All the best

Dan Andrews

 

 

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Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
an academic duel to the death over facebook - swashbuckling stuff !

On 10 October 2012 18:20, Martin Leese wrote:

> Carsten Bohn wrote:
>
> >>It has sort of got lost in the melee.
> ...
> > This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is
> > : getting to know "new words & things" that I
> > haven't heard as off now,
> > f.e. "M?l?e" : which Google translates in german
> > to something like "fray in naval warfare? !?
>
> My English dictionary gives, "mixed fight, or
> crowd".  I was trying to convey the idea of a
> disorganised fight.
>
> Given the accents (which I omitted because I
> can never remember how to do them on my
> keyboard) the word was probably borrowed
> from French.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
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[Sursound] A different portal

2012-10-10 Thread Martin Leese
Here is a different portal, this one in the UK
and made from rubber:
http://www.jay-harris.co.uk/tag/ambisonics/

Maybe two sound portals so close together
was a fluke, or maybe this the the killer app
for Ambisonics.

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Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Martin Leese
Carsten Bohn wrote:

>>It has sort of got lost in the melee.
...
> This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is
> : getting to know "new words & things" that I
> haven't heard as off now,
> f.e. "M?l?e" : which Google translates in german
> to something like "fray in naval warfare? !?

My English dictionary gives, "mixed fight, or
crowd".  I was trying to convey the idea of a
disorganised fight.

Given the accents (which I omitted because I
can never remember how to do them on my
keyboard) the word was probably borrowed
from French.

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Sursound] Flux Ircam Tools

2012-10-10 Thread Dave Malham
Spat has supported B format for quite a long time and is (or at least
was - I haven't used it for a decade or so) quite a nice piece of
software, but I do think it's rather expensive at around a 1000 Euros.

Dave

On 10 October 2012 15:25, Moritz Fehr  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> do you have experience with the Flux Ircam Tools? I am especially interested 
> if it is possible to work in Spat using B-Format.
>
> Regards,
> Moritz
>
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These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer

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Department of Music
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York YO10 5DD
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'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio'
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[Sursound] Flux Ircam Tools

2012-10-10 Thread Moritz Fehr
Hi List,

do you have experience with the Flux Ircam Tools? I am especially interested if 
it is possible to work in Spat using B-Format.

Regards,
Moritz



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Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
It definitely behoves you to remain among us Carsten (=;

On 10 October 2012 11:29, Carsten Bohn  wrote:

> It has sort of got lost in the melee.  Try:
>>
>> http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560
>> https://www.facebook.com/**TransDimensionalPortal<https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>>
>
> This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is : getting to know "new
> words & things" that I haven't heard as off now,
> f.e. "Mêlée" : which Google translates in german to something like "fray
> in naval warfare³ !?
>
> So, even though I thought of cancelling my subscription to this list, I
> decided to stay, cause the "learning effect" is just too
> valuable to stay away from ;-)
>
> with best regards from Hamburg/Germany
> Carsten
>
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Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

2012-10-10 Thread Carsten Bohn

It has sort of got lost in the melee.  Try:

http://mur.mu.rs/?p=560
https://www.facebook.com/TransDimensionalPortal

Regards,
Martin


This list has an amazing "side-effect", which is 
: getting to know "new words & things" that I 
haven't heard as off now,
f.e. "Mêlée" : which Google translates in german 
to something like "fray in naval warfare³ !?


So, even though I thought of cancelling my 
subscription to this list, I decided to stay, 
cause the "learning effect" is just too

valuable to stay away from ;-)

with best regards from Hamburg/Germany
Carsten

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