Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
On 11/02/2013 08:51 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: PS The wonders of recording with fifty metres of CAT-5 lead have to be experienced !!! absolutely. we just used an eigenmike (2nd version, with the handle) off of a 75m cat6 lead, and it was very convenient. i flew it upside-down on the neutrik ethercon, with a thin safety line attached to both cable and mic body just in case. worked like a charm, now that mh acoustics finally got their act together and fixed the cable driver (the first eigenmike was horrible in that respect)... now if somebody made an analog tetramic-to-CAT5 interface like the insta-snake, small box about the size of the handle of an sm58, one end with 6pin mini-xlr and maybe a rubber gasket to hold the tetramic, four balancing transformers/ppas to match the twisted pair, and a nice ethercon at the end, i would order it right now. and with the ethercon, the shield could be properly wired to the connector sleeve, which i'd find more robust than the instasnake magic... i'm using a 4-core with the tetra right now, but i'm still depending on the flimsy split and the four ugly ppas (well, each of them looks good, but certainly not a bunch of four), all in plain sight... not the most relaxing setup for a recording where you usually can't get to the microphone easily. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
> On 11/02/2013 08:51 PM, Michael Chapman wrote: > >> PS The wonders of recording with fifty metres of CAT-5 lead have to be >> experienced !!! > > absolutely. we just used an eigenmike (2nd version, with the handle) off > of a 75m cat6 lead, and it was very convenient. i flew it upside-down on > the neutrik ethercon, with a thin safety line attached to both cable and > mic body just in case. worked like a charm, now that mh acoustics > finally got their act together and fixed the cable driver (the first > eigenmike was horrible in that respect)... > > now if somebody made an analog tetramic-to-CAT5 interface like the > insta-snake, small box about the size of the handle of an sm58, one end > with 6pin mini-xlr and maybe a rubber gasket to hold the tetramic, four > balancing transformers/ppas to match the twisted pair, and a nice > ethercon at the end, i would order it right now. and with the ethercon, > the shield could be properly wired to the connector sleeve, which i'd > find more robust than the instasnake magic... > J�rn Nettingsmeier Mmmm I tried 'nudging' Len years back: Mainly laziness, but also a moral feeling that it is his product and he should have first bite at making the accessories. Then i ordered some bits off him to start making one, and (IIRC) he wished me well and even suggested i should think of commercialising it if it worked . . . (So all credit for his positive and open-minded response.) I had a young student (well younger than me) and we had this scheduled, but more interesting projects intervened. (I lack 3-D vision for close objects, which makes fiddling with micro-connections 'challenging';-)> Anyway to the point: The PP units invert the signal. Can this be avoided (not against inversion, but see next) ? The whole project becomes much easier (naìvely) if one has only one 48V to 5V converter. Is that a realistic possibility? You've obviously considered this! Still have this as an ambition so any other users' comments would be appreciated. Michael With one converter i thought the whole thing might go in a 'box' like the Neutrik Cat-5 to Cat-5 female/female connector ... ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
--On 03 November 2013 09:06 + Michael Chapman wrote: The PP units invert the signal. My understanding is that the early ones did, but the later ones are different and do not. Paul -- Paul Hodges ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
A CAT-5 socket (in an XLR housing) on umashankar's Zoom is an interesting possibility ... Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
> --On 03 November 2013 09:06 + Michael Chapman > wrote: > >> The PP units invert the signal. > > My understanding is that the early ones did, but the later ones are > different and do not. > Paul Hodges Does that mean you can get away with only one (With CAT-5 there is only one 48V wire to the mic stand ... and with a (IIRC) six pin plug to the TetraMic there can only be one 5V wire into the mic.? ... naìve... ? ) Michael ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
Nope - at least on earlier units one ppl wouldn't really provide enough current and in any case you need all four to provide unbalanced to balanced conversions. Dave On 3 November 2013 13:08, Michael Chapman wrote: > > --On 03 November 2013 09:06 + Michael Chapman > > wrote: > > > >> The PP units invert the signal. > > > > My understanding is that the early ones did, but the later ones are > > different and do not. > > > Paul Hodges > > Does that mean you can get away with only one > > (With CAT-5 there is only one 48V wire to the mic stand ... and with a > (IIRC) six pin plug to the TetraMic there can only be one 5V wire into the > mic.? ... naìve... ? ) > > Michael > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > -- As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University. These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University Dave Malham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20131103/c2d2a4ae/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound Tetramic
I'm hoping for a demo model quite soon, at which point I'll be able to do comparisons. >> I think a lot of us would appreciate a comprehensive comparison between the TetraMic & the Brahma. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:08 AM, len moskowitz wrote: > Laurent, > > You can find many user comments about TetraMic on our User Comments web > page: > > http://core-sound.com/TetraMic/11.php > > > Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) > Core Sound LLC > www.core-sound.com > Home of TetraMic > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20131103/787ae9d2/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound Tetramic
umashankar, if the kickstarter happens to not reach its goal (though it's boding well now), can the people still buy mics at that price? also i just read your comparisons on the kickstarter page, thats what i was looking for, thank you On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Matthew Palmer wrote: > I'm hoping for a demo model quite soon, at which point I'll be able to do > comparisons. > > >> I think a lot of us would appreciate a comprehensive comparison between > the TetraMic & the Brahma. > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:08 AM, len moskowitz > wrote: > >> Laurent, >> >> You can find many user comments about TetraMic on our User Comments web >> page: >> >> http://core-sound.com/TetraMic/11.php >> >> >> Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) >> Core Sound LLC >> www.core-sound.com >> Home of TetraMic >> >> >> ___ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >> > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20131103/05500ebe/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound Tetramic
dear mathew the kickstarter campaign is worryingly sluggish, but yes, we will not increase the price. it may take us longer to make and calibrate. everytime I build a mic, I turn my living room into a test chamber. the kickstarter campaign will provide for that. I cant post photographs here, but I will put up my calibration system photos somewhere and provide a link umashankar > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:52:15 -0500 > From: palme...@mymail.vcu.edu > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Core Sound Tetramic > > umashankar, if the kickstarter happens to not reach its goal (though it's > boding well now), can the people still buy mics at that price? also i just > read your comparisons on the kickstarter page, thats what i was looking > for, thank you > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > I'm hoping for a demo model quite soon, at which point I'll be able to do > > comparisons. > > > > >> I think a lot of us would appreciate a comprehensive comparison between > > the TetraMic & the Brahma. > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 12:08 AM, len moskowitz > > wrote: > > > >> Laurent, > >> > >> You can find many user comments about TetraMic on our User Comments web > >> page: > >> > >> http://core-sound.com/TetraMic/11.php > >> > >> > >> Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) > >> Core Sound LLC > >> www.core-sound.com > >> Home of TetraMic > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Sursound mailing list > >> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > >> > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20131103/05500ebe/attachment.html> > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20131104/9152b24d/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Core Sound TetraMic
Jörn wrote: now if somebody made an analog tetramic-to-CAT5 interface like the insta-snake, small box about the size of the handle of an sm58, one end with 6pin mini-xlr and maybe a rubber gasket to hold the tetramic, four balancing transformers/ppas to match the twisted pair, and a nice ethercon at the end, i would order it right now. and with the ethercon, the shield could be properly wired to the connector sleeve, which i'd find more robust than the instasnake magic... There's something like that coming, but I can't give details yet. It's enough to say that it will address the connector concerns. And some other interesting developments are coming too. Michael Chapman wrote: The PP units invert the signal. Can this be avoided (not against inversion, but see next) ? The original PPA inverted. The current PPA does not. Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) Core Sound LLC www.core-sound.com Home of TetraMic ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
