Re: [Sursound] parallella board

2014-05-21 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
http://www.altera.com/literature/an/an487.pdf Design examples on how to doit...

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From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Malham
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Subject: Re: [Sursound] parallella board

As it has an SPI interface, it should be usable with multichannel DAC's.
 The main chip also has a lot of FPGA which could be tasked with providing more 
SPI interfaces. A very interesting board indeed.

Dave


On 13 May 2014 15:51, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote:

 Indeed that is an interesting board. However, hidden in a comment 
 trail on the blog they note that there was limited funding for the 
 production run of the 64 processor board. This resulted in higher 
 cost/unit and a very limited quantity being produced. The net of that 
 is that all that were made are already committed, so none with be available 
 for purchase.

 Michael

 - Original Message - Subject: [Sursound] parallella 
 board
 From: JQ Adams jqad...@google.com
 Date: 5/13/14 1:59 am
 To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu

 Hi all.

  Does anyone have any experience or plans to perform audio-related  
 processing using one of these boards with the Adapteva 16-core 
 coprocessor?

  http://www.parallella.org

  It's cheap and low power (RaspberryPi-esque) but seemingly quite 
 capable of  significant workloads (especially the upcoming 64-core 
 version).

  I figured it may be useful for many channel decoding of B-format to 
 speaker  feeds, or doing some heavy lifting in FIR calculations for  
 room-equalization, etc.

  I have in mind echo cancelers and convolving out the room 
 contribution for  VC applications. However I don't know enough about 
 chip architecture to  know whether this would be a good choice over 
 more conventional (SHARC)  DSPs. I see that this is only 32-bit float 
 capable in hardware, whereas  math functions in the SHARC ar 40-bit 
 precision. For proper scientific  computing, double floats (64-bit) 
 are usually desired, but I'm uncertain  whether this applies to the audio 
 domain.

  Any thoughts?

  Cheers,
  JQ

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Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-21 Thread Stefan Schreiber

Dave Malham wrote:


Good  grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very
expensive?

Dave
 



It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less 
material than for the frame...   :-)


Stefan




On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 


No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white
holder and metal frame where 3D printed.

Best,

Hector
On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote:

   


Hector Centeno wrote:

Hello all,
 


I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D
   


printed
   


parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people
here
with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any
   


comments
   


will be very appreciated.

A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg
Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description):
https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa

Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more
sensitive
than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me).

Thanks and best wishes,

Hector


   


Really cool, and very creative!

 Which  parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules
itself, can you?

It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question...

Best regards,

Stefan

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Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-21 Thread Hector Centeno
Hi Dave,

Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28.

Best,

Hector
Dave Malham wrote:

 Good  grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very
 expensive?

 Dave



It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less
material than for the frame...   :-)

Stefan



 On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:



 No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The
 white
 holder and metal frame where 3D printed.

 Best,

 Hector
 On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote:



 Hector Centeno wrote:

 Hello all,


 I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D


 printed


 parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people
 here
 with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any


 comments


 will be very appreciated.

 A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg
 Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description):
 https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa

 Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more
 sensitive
 than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me).

 Thanks and best wishes,

 Hector




 Really cool, and very creative!

  Which  parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules
 itself, can you?

 It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question...

 Best regards,

 Stefan

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Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-21 Thread Conor Mulvey
Hector,

That's a great price for 3D printing in metal. What company did you use?

Thanks,
Conor


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28.

 Best,

 Hector
 Dave Malham wrote:

  Good  grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very
  expensive?
 
  Dave
 
 

 It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less
 material than for the frame...   :-)

 Stefan



  On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The
  white
  holder and metal frame where 3D printed.
 
  Best,
 
  Hector
  On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Hector Centeno wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
 
  I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D
 
 
  printed
 
 
  parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people
  here
  with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any
 
 
  comments
 
 
  will be very appreciated.
 
  A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg
  Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the
 description):
  https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa
 
  Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more
  sensitive
  than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me).
 
  Thanks and best wishes,
 
  Hector
 
 
 
 
  Really cool, and very creative!
 
   Which  parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules
  itself, can you?
 
  It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question...
 
  Best regards,
 
  Stefan
 
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Re: [Sursound] WFS systems

2014-05-21 Thread Augustine Leudar
P.S.  I think Disney world/land have one in the haunted house...

On 21/05/2014, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have on here in Ireland - a humble 32 channel one - though I often
 put the speakers in many different configurations and it is without a
 name. Also te University of Salford has a good one as do the guys who
 make soundscape renderer (I think)

 On 18/05/2014, Andres Cabrera mantaray...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of research WFS systems. The
 TU
 Berlin and the Game of Life systems come immediately to mind, but before
 starting to dig, I wanted to know if someone has already done this list.

 Also of interest could be companies working on commercial WFS systems.

 Thanks!
 Andrés
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Re: [Sursound] WFS systems

2014-05-21 Thread Augustine Leudar
oh and IRCAM - IRCAM have a really good one I hear (and one day hope
to actually hear)

On 21/05/2014, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com wrote:
 P.S.  I think Disney world/land have one in the haunted house...

 On 21/05/2014, Augustine Leudar gustar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have on here in Ireland - a humble 32 channel one - though I often
 put the speakers in many different configurations and it is without a
 name. Also te University of Salford has a good one as do the guys who
 make soundscape renderer (I think)

 On 18/05/2014, Andres Cabrera mantaray...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm wondering if anyone has compiled a list of research WFS systems. The
 TU
 Berlin and the Game of Life systems come immediately to mind, but before
 starting to dig, I wanted to know if someone has already done this list.

 Also of interest could be companies working on commercial WFS systems.

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Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-21 Thread Hector Centeno
Hi Conor,

It was www.shapeways.com You can make your uploaded models available to
others. If the mic proves to be useful I'll make the parts public so others
can order them directly.

Best,

Hector
On May 21, 2014 2:28 PM, Conor Mulvey cono...@visisonics.com wrote:

 Hector,

 That's a great price for 3D printing in metal. What company did you use?

 Thanks,
 Conor


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Dave,
 
  Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28.
 
  Best,
 
  Hector
  Dave Malham wrote:
 
   Good  grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very
   expensive?
  
   Dave
  
  
 
  It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less
  material than for the frame...   :-)
 
  Stefan
 
 
 
   On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
   No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The
   white
   holder and metal frame where 3D printed.
  
   Best,
  
   Hector
   On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
  wrote:
  
  
  
   Hector Centeno wrote:
  
   Hello all,
  
  
   I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D
  
  
   printed
  
  
   parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if
 people
   here
   with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any
  
  
   comments
  
  
   will be very appreciated.
  
   A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg
   Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the
  description):
   https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa
  
   Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more
   sensitive
   than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me).
  
   Thanks and best wishes,
  
   Hector
  
  
  
  
   Really cool, and very creative!
  
Which  parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules
   itself, can you?
  
   It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question...
  
   Best regards,
  
   Stefan
  
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Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-21 Thread Dave Malham


 Last time I looked at something like that, they were talking hundreds

Dave


On 21 May 2014 19:16, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28.

 Best,

 Hector
 Dave Malham wrote:

  Good  grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very
  expensive?
 
  Dave
 
 

 It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less
 material than for the frame...   :-)

 Stefan



  On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The
  white
  holder and metal frame where 3D printed.
 
  Best,
 
  Hector
  On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Hector Centeno wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
 
  I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D
 
 
  printed
 
 
  parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people
  here
  with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any
 
 
  comments
 
 
  will be very appreciated.
 
  A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg
  Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the
 description):
  https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa
 
  Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more
  sensitive
  than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me).
 
  Thanks and best wishes,
 
  Hector
 
 
 
 
  Really cool, and very creative!
 
   Which  parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules
  itself, can you?
 
  It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question...
 
  Best regards,
 
  Stefan
 
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