Re: [Sursound] summary of everything (in the guise of a Sennheiser Ambeo mic critical/comparative review)

2017-04-26 Thread Martin Leese
Dave Malham wrote:
...
> Also, unless I'm mistaken (always possible),
> it only seems to go back to 2011.

The earliest "Ambeo" post is 2016 so, on this
occasion, 2011 is plenty.

I have saved the Sursound Digests in my
Gmail account going back to August 2008
(Volume 1, Issue 1), and possibly earlier.
(GMail does not display an "Oldest ››" button,
so it is difficult for me to get back to the
beginning.)  Unfortunately, I don't have an
easy way to turn these into a *publicly*
searchable archive.

Regards,
Martin
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[Sursound] summary of everything (in the guise of a Sennheiser Ambeo mic critical/comparative review)

2017-04-26 Thread James Anthony Enda Bates
Hi David,
  we'll be publishing a study comparing a number of ambisonic mics at AES
Berlin next month. We had an Ambeo, TetraMic, Soundfield MKV, Zoom H2n and
an Eigenmike, and we assessed them using an objective directional study,
and a subjective listening test on low and high frequency timbre.

http://aesberlin17.mapyourshow.com/7_0/sessions/session-details.cfm?scheduleid=48=12317637=9af0c5cec1328578-53E79605-D6D9-4F64-946982050973C724

The full paper should be out soon, but in terms of the Ambeo, we found it
to be very good in terms of directional accuracy, and pretty good in terms
of timbre although rather bright sounding if the optional Ambisonics
Correction Filter in the A-to-B-format Conversion plugin is used.

We didnt find any significant improvement in directional accuracy with that
filter applied, and in my own personal experience, I've found the timbre of
the Ambeo to be far, far better without it.
Enda







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Re: [Sursound] [allowed] summary of everything (in the guise of a Sennheiser Ambeo mic critical/comparative review)

2017-04-26 Thread Gerard Lardner
As Bo-Eric commented, the discussion I referred to was on the Facebook group 
Spatial Audio in VR/AR/MR. I got mixed up, as I keep all my surround emails in 
the same place.
Gerard

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: David Worrall <worr...@avatar.com.au> 
Date: 26/04/2017  07:03  (GMT+00:00) To: glard...@iol.ie, Surround Sound 
discussion group <sursound@music.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Sursound] [allowed] 
summary of everything (in the guise of a Sennheiser Ambeo mic 
critical/comparative review) 
Thanks Gerard,I appreciate your info and ref. to the Dec. 2016 posts. We’ll 
check them out. We’re looking at putting together a 20.4 system similar to the 
one I developed in the 1990s etc in 
Australia:http://www.avatar.com.au/newsite/polymedia/ All the best, David   
From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Gerard Lardner 
<glard...@iol.ie>
Reply-To: <glard...@iol.ie>, Surround Sound discussion group 
<sursound@music.vt.edu>
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 7:00 PM
To: <sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sursound] [allowed] summary of everything (in the guise of a 
Sennheiser Ambeo mic critical/comparative review) Bosse Sandholm posted some 
B-format recordings of the Pygme Jazz Band, recordings made with Core Sound's 
TetraMic and Sennheiser's Ambeo, in response to a similar request that I made. 
Check back to 6 December 2016. The postings then link to files uploaded to 
Soundcloud. I must confess to not having listened to them in surround sound; my 
'studio' has been configured as stereo-only since mid-November. I must put it 
back to surround sound (put back the speakers that were 'borrowed' for another 
project) and listen to the comparisons properly. Interestingly, a small /à 
capella/ group to which I belong hosted some sound recording students from a 
local Institute of Technology just before Easter, to let them try out various 
surround sound and ambience recording techniques. They brought along almost 30 
microphones, including a Tetramic and a Zoom H2n (but not an Ambeo). I look 
forward to hearing the results of their efforts and hearing how we sound when 
recorded using the different techniques. Gerard  On 25/04/2017 23:00, David 
Worrall wrote:Hello all,     (I’ve survived moving continents twice since last 
posting. Now holed up mit Family in Chicago). I’m about 3-4 years behind on 
ambsionic research and now I’m introducing it to a largely ignorant cohort 
here.     My trusty TetraMic is working well, as long as ambient RF is not too 
bad.     I am interested to see the latest product scrutiny by members of this 
esteemed group.     I was initially looking for a review of the Sennheiser 
Ambeo mic but I must admit to being defeated by the seeming lack of a search 
function in the surround archives. Is there anywhere/anyone maintaining a 
searchable version? Failing that, can someone please point me to a decent 
critical –even comparative-review of this machine?     I’d also like to read 
the list’s latest thoughts on current (3rd order etc) mics.     And lastly, (as 
if that’s not enough) could you all post (or email me) your sites and list 
what’s special about them?     Sorry to be a pest, but I have to being the 
evangelizing process here!         Kind regards to you all,     David           
          --- David Worrall, PhD Professor and Chair Audio Arts and Acoustics 
Department School of Media Arts Columbia College Chicago dworr...@colum.edu 33 
E Congress Pkwy Room 601N Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605 Tel: (1)312.369.8821 
Fax: (1)312.369.8427 President, International Community for Auditory Display 
icad.org personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au         
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Re: [Sursound] summary of everything (in the guise of a Sennheiser Ambeo mic critical/comparative review)

2017-04-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
The comparison was discussed in the Facebook group
Spatial Audio in VR/AR/MR

Best regards
Bo-Erik Sandholm

On 26 Apr 2017 07:57, "Dave Malham" <dave.mal...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

> Welcome back, mate, always a pleasure!
>
>Dave
>
> On 25 April 2017 at 23:00, David Worrall <worr...@avatar.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > (I’ve survived moving continents twice since last posting. Now holed up
> > mit Family in Chicago).
> >
> > I’m about 3-4 years behind on ambsionic research and now I’m introducing
> > it to a largely ignorant cohort here.
> >
> >
> >
> > My trusty TetraMic is working well, as long as ambient RF is not too bad.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested to see the latest product scrutiny by members of this
> > esteemed group.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was initially looking for a review of the Sennheiser Ambeo mic but I
> > must admit to being defeated by the seeming lack of a search function in
> > the surround archives.
> >
> > Is there anywhere/anyone maintaining a searchable version?
> >
> > Failing that, can someone please point me to a decent critical –even
> > comparative-review of this machine?
> >
> >
> >
> > I’d also like to read the list’s latest thoughts on current (3rd order
> > etc) mics.
> >
> >
> >
> > And lastly, (as if that’s not enough) could you all post (or email me)
> > your sites and list what’s special about them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry to be a pest, but I have to being the evangelizing process here!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards to you all,
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> > David Worrall, PhD
> >
> > Professor and Chair
> >
> > Audio Arts and Acoustics Department
> >
> > School of Media Arts
> >
> > Columbia College Chicago
> >
> > dworr...@colum.edu
> >
> > 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N
> >
> > Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605
> >
> > Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427
> >
> > President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org
> >
> > personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au
> >
> >
> >
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