Re: [Sursound] Qualcomm 3d audio tools

2017-09-18 Thread Peter P.
* Dave Malham  [2017-09-18 20:32]:
> Hi guys,
> Has anyone used this?
> https://developer.qualcomm.com/software/3d-audio-tools/faq

Their page at
https://developer.qualcomm.com/software/3d-audio-tools/software-request
tells me that
"Please use your corporate e-mail address. Using a personal or
educational e-mail address could delay, or prevent you from getting this
software."

Well...
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


[Sursound] Qualcomm 3d audio tools

2017-09-18 Thread Dave Malham
Hi guys,
Has anyone used this?
https://developer.qualcomm.com/software/3d-audio-tools/faq

DAve

-- 

As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University.

These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University

Dave Malham
Honorary Fellow, Department of Music
The University of York
York YO10 5DD
UK

'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio'
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/63bbb27a/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Hyunkook Lee
Hello,

The attached papers of mine may be relevant to your question.  PCMA, a surround 
mic technique I proposed and evaluated in the papers does not use multiple 
ambisonic microphones, but uses 5 pairs of coincident microphones arranged in a 
spaced array. The purpose is to control perceived front-back perspective (zoom 
in/out) creating a virtual microphone with a different polar pattern and 
direction at each pickup point. (see Figure 3 in the 2011 paper). The same 
technique can be used for surround recording with height (the secondary mic in 
each pair captures more ambience than direct sound and is therefore routed to a 
height channel for spatial impression).

Hope this is useful.

Hyunkook

=
Dr Hyunkook Lee, BMus(Tonmeister), PhD, MAES, FHEA
Senior Lecturer in Music Technology
Leader of the Applied Psychoacoustics Laboratory (APL)
http://www.hud.ac.uk/apl
http://www.hyunkooklee.com
Phone: +44 (0)1484 471893
Email: h@hud.ac.uk
Office: CE 2 /14a
School of Computing and Engineering
University of Huddersfield
Huddersfield
HD1 3DH
United Kingdom


From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] on behalf of len moskowitz 
[lenmoskow...@optonline.net]
Sent: 18 September 2017 18:05
To: sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

Matthew Barnard writes:


> Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic
> microphones in a spaced array for a recording?



We've recommended using multiple TetraMics in spaced arrays to our
customers many times, and we mention it on our web site.


Perhaps the simplest is an ORTF array, decoding two TetraMics physically
spaced 17 cm apart, and each decoded to cardioids angled to an included
angle between them of 110 degrees.


There's no reason this technique can't be used with other spaced array
configurations.


Then there's the much more complex possibility of using many TetraMics,
uniformly distributed around a space, each dynamically tracking sound
sources, and interpolating (handing off) between them as sound sources
move around in the space. We know this may be possible.





Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic

___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.
University of Huddersfield inspiring tomorrow's professionals.
[http://marketing.hud.ac.uk/_HOSTED/EmailSig2014/EmailSigFooter.jpg]

This transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you receive 
it in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and remove it from your 
system. If the content of this e-mail does not relate to the business of the 
University of Huddersfield, then we do not endorse it and will accept no 
liability.
-- next part --
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 2011_AES130_PCMA_Lee.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 580742 bytes
Desc: 2011_AES130_PCMA_Lee.pdf
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/880f5d44/attachment.pdf>
-- next part --
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 2012_AES132_PCMA Subjective Evaluation.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 598656 bytes
Desc: 2012_AES132_PCMA Subjective Evaluation.pdf
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/880f5d44/attachment-0001.pdf>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread len moskowitz

Matthew Barnard writes:


Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic 
microphones in a spaced array for a recording?




We've recommended using multiple TetraMics in spaced arrays to our 
customers many times, and we mention it on our web site.



Perhaps the simplest is an ORTF array, decoding two TetraMics physically 
spaced 17 cm apart, and each decoded to cardioids angled to an included 
angle between them of 110 degrees.



There's no reason this technique can't be used with other spaced array 
configurations.



Then there's the much more complex possibility of using many TetraMics, 
uniformly distributed around a space, each dynamically tracking sound 
sources, and interpolating (handing off) between them as sound sources 
move around in the space. We know this may be possible.






Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic

___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Peter Lennox
I've rather simplistically used 3xSF mics, in a line, spaced approx. 25m 
(between no.1 and no.2 - hence spacing between 1 and 3 is 50m) to record 
adjacent 'cells', for replay in reciprocal fashion. The recorded venue was a 
choir in a cathedral, the replay in a large (but smaller than the cathedral!) 
foyer in the University. Visitors could then enter the 'virtual cathedral', 
move through the audience space, through the choir, out the other side - and 
the transformation of direct-to-indirect energy ratio was perceived 
appropriately for ambulant listeners, yielding appropriate changes in range 
perception as one approached sources. The odd local peculiarity due to 
precedence effects, but generally, the overall impressions were of a virtual 
space that one could move about in.
Cheers
ppl

Dr. Peter Lennox SFHEA
Senior Lecturer in Perception
College of Arts, Humanities and Education
School of Arts

e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk
t: 01332 593155

https://derby.academia.edu/peterlennox
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox

University of Derby,
Kedleston Road,
Derby,
DE22 1GB, UK

-Original Message-
From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Steven 
Boardman
Sent: 18 September 2017 14:56
To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

I have thought about doing this.
It would need very good accuracy in placement, probably using equilateral 
triangles. Distance would have to be taken into account, delay wise, and 
probably frequency too.  A zoom/move process would also be needed to realign 
each of the soundfields to centre reference. By no means trivial ...

I am following this thread!

Best

Steve

On 18 Sep 2017 13:03, "Matthew Barnard"  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic
> microphones in a spaced array for a recording?
>
>
>
> I’m looking for any examples (and to hear of pitfalls) in prep for a
> potential project.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Dr. Matt Barnard
>
> University of Hull
>
>
>
>
>
> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
> scrubbed...
> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/
> attachments/20170918/21ee8d77/attachment.html>
> ___
> Sursound mailing list
> Sursound@music.vt.edu
> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe
> here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
>
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/3d018484/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the 
right to monitor email traffic.
If you believe this was sent to you in error, please reply to the sender and 
let them know.

Key University contacts: http://www.derby.ac.uk/its/contacts/
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Peter P.
* Matthew Barnard  [2017-09-18 14:03]:
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic microphones in 
> a spaced array for a recording? 
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christian_Schoerkhuber/publication/274009006_WiLMA_a_Wireless_Large-scale_Microphone_Array/links/551276d60cf268a4aaea599b.pdf
and
http://alpsadriaacoustics.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Schoerkhuber_Hack_Zaunschirm_Zotter_Sontacchi_LOCALIZATION-OF-MULTIPLE-ACOUSTIC-SOURCES-WITH-A-DISTRIBUTED-ARRAY-OF-UNSYNCHRONIZED-FIRST-ORDER-AMBISONICS-MICROPHONES.pdf
come to my mind.
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Steven Boardman
I have thought about doing this.
It would need very good accuracy in placement, probably using equilateral
triangles. Distance would have to be taken into account, delay wise, and
probably frequency too.  A zoom/move process would also be needed to
realign each of the soundfields to centre reference. By no means trivial ...

I am following this thread!

Best

Steve

On 18 Sep 2017 13:03, "Matthew Barnard"  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic microphones
> in a spaced array for a recording?
>
>
>
> I’m looking for any examples (and to hear of pitfalls) in prep for a
> potential project.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Dr. Matt Barnard
>
> University of Hull
>
>
>
>
>
> -- next part --
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/
> attachments/20170918/21ee8d77/attachment.html>
> ___
> Sursound mailing list
> Sursound@music.vt.edu
> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here,
> edit account or options, view archives and so on.
>
-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/3d018484/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Matthew Barnard
Thanks Umashankar.

How about on a larger scale? I’m interested in crossfade/interpolation 
possibilities for music capture.

Appreciated,
Matt

Dr. Matt Barnard
University of Hull



On 18/09/2017, 13:25, "Sursound on behalf of umashankar manthravadi" 
 wrote:

I thought of doing some thing like that = two Brahma first order 
microphones feeding into a Zoom F8. I proposed the idea to Angelo Farina who 
wrote back saying they had tried ot, but it was not satisfactory.

umashankar

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 
10

From: Matthew Barnard<mailto:mjabarn...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 5:33 PM
To: Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

Hi All,



Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic microphones 
in a spaced array for a recording?



I’m looking for any examples (and to hear of pitfalls) in prep for a 
potential project.



Thanks

Matt



Dr. Matt Barnard

University of Hull





-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/21ee8d77/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, 
edit account or options, view archives and so on.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/ce42f970/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, 
edit account or options, view archives and so on.




___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


Re: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread umashankar manthravadi
I thought of doing some thing like that = two Brahma first order microphones 
feeding into a Zoom F8. I proposed the idea to Angelo Farina who wrote back 
saying they had tried ot, but it was not satisfactory.

umashankar

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Matthew Barnard<mailto:mjabarn...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 5:33 PM
To: Sursound@music.vt.edu<mailto:Sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: [Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

Hi All,



Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic microphones in a 
spaced array for a recording?



I’m looking for any examples (and to hear of pitfalls) in prep for a potential 
project.



Thanks

Matt



Dr. Matt Barnard

University of Hull





-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/21ee8d77/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/ce42f970/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.


[Sursound] Multiple ambisonic microphone array?

2017-09-18 Thread Matthew Barnard
Hi All,

 

Has anyone had any experience of utilising multiple ambisonic microphones in a 
spaced array for a recording? 

 

I’m looking for any examples (and to hear of pitfalls) in prep for a potential 
project.

 

Thanks

Matt

 

Dr. Matt Barnard

University of Hull

 

 

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20170918/21ee8d77/attachment.html>
___
Sursound mailing list
Sursound@music.vt.edu
https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit 
account or options, view archives and so on.