Re: [Sursound] Decoding first order ambisonics on higher order decoders?

2019-05-15 Thread Len Moskowitz

Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote:

Which decoder configuration for FOA and TOA in to binaural is the 
best?

 
We've been using IEM BinauralDecoder. It's quite nice. It automatically 
senses what order it's being fed and configures itself accordingly.



You might contact Daniel Rudrich at IEM to ask about details.


  https://plugins.iem.at/docs/plugindescriptions/#binauraldecoder



Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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Re: [Sursound] Accompanying video display

2019-05-15 Thread Douglas Murray
As a film sound designer and fan of spatial sound, I think it’s very important 
for cinema sound to be mixed and reviewed in the same type of environment as a 
movie theatre, in other words with a projection screen and the front speakers 
behind the "acoustically transparent" screen. Working with a hard screen like a 
big TV means placing the front speakers outside the screen, which leads to 
difficulties in correctly panning across the front speakers.

For cost reasons many edit and design rooms are equipped with flat panel 
displays of various types. That easily delivers the best picture quality for 
the money. If that is what you do I’d place the LCR monitors below or above the 
screen with the L and R speakers’ high frequency drivers placed within the 
screen area. 

Best of luck!

Doug Murray

> On May 15, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Spice, Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends-
>   I’m helping to design a new studio on the campus where I work. We are
> installing a 7.1.4 setup which is very exciting. I’m looking for assistance
> on what type and size video to install.
> 
>   The room is 14’ tall, 11.5’ wide, and 19.5’ deep. What type of video
> would you suggest (screen vs projector) and how large? We plan to use this
> space for vpostproduction work for video and gaming as well as a teaching
> studio for immersive audio so having a large, legible screen is very
> important.
> 
> Thank you very much for your input-
> Graham Spice
> -- 
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> Assistant Professor of Music - Music Production & Recording Technology
> Shenandoah Conservatory <https://www.su.edu/conservatory/> of Shenandoah
> University <https://www.su.edu/>
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[Sursound] Accompanying video display

2019-05-15 Thread Spice, Graham
Hello friends-
   I’m helping to design a new studio on the campus where I work. We are
installing a 7.1.4 setup which is very exciting. I’m looking for assistance
on what type and size video to install.

   The room is 14’ tall, 11.5’ wide, and 19.5’ deep. What type of video
would you suggest (screen vs projector) and how large? We plan to use this
space for vpostproduction work for video and gaming as well as a teaching
studio for immersive audio so having a large, legible screen is very
important.

Thank you very much for your input-
Graham Spice
-- 
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Assistant Professor of Music - Music Production & Recording Technology
Shenandoah Conservatory <https://www.su.edu/conservatory/> of Shenandoah
University <https://www.su.edu/>
Winchester, VA
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Re: [Sursound] Decoding first order ambisonics on higher order decoders?

2019-05-15 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Which decoder configuration for FOA and TOA in to binaural is the best?
Any references?

Bo-Erik

Den ons 15 maj 2019 07:20Fernando Lopez-Lezcano 
skrev:

> On 5/14/19 6:56 PM, Aaron Heller wrote:
> > Hi Sean,
> > The problem with feeding first-order program material into a third-order
> > decoder is that the per-degree max_rE gains will be wrong.
> >  For 2D: 1, 0.707 vs. 1, 0.924 (, 0.707, 0.383)
> >  For 3D: 1, 0.577 vs. 1, 0.861 (, 0.612, 0.305)
>
> Maybe you could expand on what perceptual effect that has? [*]
>
> Even better would be graphs that show how the soundfield is distorted by
> doing that. I don't remember seeing something like that, but maybe you
> have a reference...
>
> > I'll also point out that for first-order program material, listening
> tests
> > show that dual-band decoding and NFC filters make a substantial
> difference.
> > Still important at third-order, less so for fifth-order and above.  See
> > http://www.ai.sri.com/~heller/ for further details.
> >
> > We're planning a new set of HOA listening tests on CCRMA's new 56-speaker
> > array.
>
> Party party!
> -- Fernando
>
> [*] in my experience piping first order through a third order decoder
> sounds "reasonable" (I have done it, mea culpa), that is, until you use
> a proper first order decoder for the same speaker array with the same
> materials - then it sounds better.
>
>
>
> > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:51 PM Sean Devonport <
> rsdevonport1...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey there everyone,
> >>
> >> Want to ask if anyone has any thoughts on decoding first order
> ambisonics
> >> to higher order decoders?
> >>
> >> I've been experimenting with decoding first order on third order
> decoders
> >> and I still feel like they work relatively well in my setting (a
> >> hemispherical dome-like configuration of 14 speakers using AllRAD maxRE
> >> decoders).
> >>
> >> I do know there is some upmixing software in the works (
> >> http://research.spa.aalto.fi/projects/compass_vsts/), but so far,
> >> unfortunately, I haven't been too happy with the quality of it (however
> I
> >> do really like the other plugins in SPARTA). Maybe I'm not using it
> >> correctly but I find the upmix generally comes out too sharp.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping someone may have experimented a bit more with this and could
> >> give me their opinions, tips, tricks, or point me in the direction of
> some
> >> research that could give me a solid answer.
> >>
> >> Many thanks in advance!
> >>
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