Re: [Sursound] More Capsules - More Self-Noise Or Less?

2023-11-08 Thread Rudy Chalupa
 But isn't that only true if all the capsules are picking up the full signal? 
In the case of an Ambisonic mike, where the directional capsules are pointed in 
various directions, you won't get the full advantage.
Cordially,
Rudy ChalupaPleiades Audio + Electronics
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 08:37:52 PM EST, 
lenmoskow...@optonline.net  wrote:  
 
 Do Many Small Capsules Mean More Self-Noise Or Less? Less!


As we've discussed before, the more capsules an array microphone has, 
the lower its self-noise. That's because as you double the number of 
capsules, the combined output voltage goes up 6 dB, but the self-noise 
only goes up 3 dB.

The noise increases only 3 dB  because it's uncorrelated across 
capsules. So each time you double the number of capsules, self-noise 
drops 3 dB. OctoMic's combined eight capsules have 9 dB lower self-noise 
than a single capsule.

That results in a low self-noise specification.  We specify it 
conservatively as 15 dBA. That's the same as DPA's wonderful 4003, or 
only 1 dB more than Schoeps' Mk 4.



Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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[Sursound] More Capsules - More Self-Noise Or Less?

2023-11-08 Thread lenmoskowitz

Do Many Small Capsules Mean More Self-Noise Or Less? Less!


As we've discussed before, the more capsules an array microphone has, 
the lower its self-noise. That's because as you double the number of 
capsules, the combined output voltage goes up 6 dB, but the self-noise 
only goes up 3 dB.


The noise increases only 3 dB  because it's uncorrelated across 
capsules. So each time you double the number of capsules, self-noise 
drops 3 dB. OctoMic's combined eight capsules have 9 dB lower self-noise 
than a single capsule.


That results in a low self-noise specification.  We specify it 
conservatively as 15 dBA. That's the same as DPA's wonderful 4003, or 
only 1 dB more than Schoeps' Mk 4.




Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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Re: [Sursound] OctoMic Self Noise (was: A comparison of fifteen ambisonic microphones)

2023-11-08 Thread Jack Reynolds
Thanks Len. 

Useful piece of information. 

And what units is the -81?

J

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> The recording is of the B-format W channel.
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Re: [Sursound] OctoMic Self Noise (was: A comparison of fifteen ambisonic microphones)

2023-11-08 Thread lenmoskowitz

The recording is of the B-format W channel.


Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
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