Re: [Sursound] Low-latency, ultra-stable Ambisonics for club install?

[Anthony Palomba]

Hey folks,

I may be a bit late to joining this discussion. But I am trying to do the
exact same thing in Max.
Augustine, can you describe your setup? Are you encoding the audio in Max?
Where is the decoding being done?


-ap

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Augustine Leudar  wrote:

> Thats weird because I use ambipanning for live shows all the time with up
> to 32 speakers and have no latency problems. The difference is though I
> just use them with Max not through ableton. Have you thought of having
> seperate audio channels coming out of your favourite Daw and just route
> them into audio inputs of max to be spatialised ?
>
> On 17 September 2014 06:52, Peter Lennox  wrote:
>
> > I'll be interested to hear about your progress.
> >
> > In the back of my garage, I have a zero-latency 8-way 1st order
> > encode-decode device (it even has a 4-way 1st order feed for subs). It's
> > wholly analogue, and we used it in Ambisonix Dance nights in the 90's.
> The
> > 4 outputs of an analogue desk passed into 4 inputs which were encoded  as
> > front-left, front right, back-right, back left. Movement was crudely
> > achieved by simply cross fading across the buses in the desk.
> Additionally,
> > a through-route for B-format recordings (or indeed, the output from a
> > computer that was encoding to b-format) passed into the decode section of
> > the device. The device looks like some monstrous breadboard from Baron
> Von
> > Frankenstein's lab, bodged into an ex military 19" rack mount (so you
> could
> > stand an elephant on it, if need be- though we never called on this
> > particular facility). I think it might not pass PAT criteria today.
> >
> > If such a device seems rather crude and a world away from HOA - well, it
> > was. On the other hand, it never crashed. But an interesting point - I
> > never heard a club-goer complain about the lack of precision of phantom
> > imagery - focus, ensemble depth, apparent source width, any of those
> > things. It wasn't for electroacoustic concerts, or virtual reality.
> >
> > Years later, I had a student, Caryl Jones, carry out a study on potential
> > DJ tools for ambisonics. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, she found many of the
> > more subtle effects possible in ambisonics were wasted -and too
> cumbersome
> > to operate in real time by the DJ (even when she tracked down the
> hardcore
> > of intelligent DJs who wanted to experiment). Instead, simple to operate
> > and with maximum possible perceptual changes seemed to be the order of
> the
> > day - and most importantly, stuff that had (or could have) a 'musical
> > reason for existing' in the club context.
> >
> > Finally, in a series of experiments at the Glade festival, with Tony and
> > John of Funktion One, my collegue (Bruce Wiggins) and I experimented in
> > that context with  a system that used F1's 1st order analogue
> encode-decode
> > chain, and Bruce's (2rd order)software chain, operating in parallel into
> > the 8 channel speaker array - again with a 4-way sub arrangement. That
> was
> > when we first heard John Leonard's "when geese go bad" recording over a
> > 40kW rig - result: Dinosaur-size geese. And in sound testing, the
> motorbike
> > recordings (from Soundfield's website) drove the council guys with their
> > sound level measuring gear bonkers - they couldn't work out where the
> > lunatic on the bike was.
> > The flypast of the spitfires wasn't bad, too.
> >
> > So, I'm saying that a solution that allows parallel processing, so that
> > some things can be quick-and-dirty, whilst others can be
> > precise-but-complex, might suit your needs?
> > Regards
> > ppl
> > Dr. Peter Lennox
> >
> > School of Technology,
> > Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology
> > University of Derby, UK
> > e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk
> > t: 01332 593155
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Jake
> > Williams
> > Sent: 16 September 2014 22:17
> > To: Sursound@music.vt.edu
> > Subject: [Sursound] Low-latency, ultra-stable Ambisonics for club
> install?
> >
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I thought after the obligatory period of lurking and digging I'd raise my
> > head and say hello - and hopefully canvas some opinions from your wealth
> of
> > experience here.  I met a few of you earlier in the year at the iX
> > Symposium in Montreal (I was doing the music for the live, improvised
> > full-dome / Ambisonic AV show Fragments).
> >
> > Though I have worked on multi-channel pieces before, Fragments was my
> > first foray into Ambisonics and since then I have been rather obsessed
> > (although my grasp of the science is still a little shaky).
> >
> > Anyways, to cut to the chase - I am now working on designing some effects
> > for a nightclub install - the idea being that there will be a subtle
> > spatialisation of the DJ FX over the 8 speakers using, hopefully,
> > Ambisonics.  Basically I am researching the best way to do this.  For
> > Fragments I used Ableton

Re: [Sursound] a quick tutorial video on how to create an impulse response

[Anthony Palomba]

This is a great video! I am looking forward to seeing more,
especially room correction.

I would also love to see some videos on using these
tools to create new timbres. For example live instruments
convolved with interesting sounds.


Thanks,
Anthony




On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay <
tremb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all
>
> Thanks to Rodrigo Constanzo we have the first video tutorial of how to use
> and abuse the fruit of the HIRT (the HISS Impulse Response Toolbox). This
> time round, it is the basic use of capturing an impulse response with some
> of the tools for MaxMSP.
>
> Feel free to watch it here:
>
> https://vimeo.com/55440630
>
> The paper and all the externals are still available here:
>
> http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/14897/
>
> Let us know what you think!
>
> p
>
> ps for those who prefer youtube, it will soon be up there too!
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Re: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

[Anthony Palomba]

Thank you all for your insightful replies. I know I could spend years
trying to setup a scientifically accurate ambisonic setup. But
then I would probably never make any music!

Dave, are there a links to these papers by Eric, Richard and Aaron
that you speak of?



-ap





On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Dave Malham  wrote:

>
>
> On 08/06/2012 09:49, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
>
>> On 06/06/2012 08:52 PM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>>
>>  There are ambisonic encode/decode externals for Max...
>>> http://www.grahamwakefield.**net/soft/ambi~/index.htm<http://www.grahamwakefield.net/soft/ambi%7E/index.htm>
>>> That might be the easiest thing to try first.
>>>
>>
>> possibly. there is one thing on the homepage that strikes me as odd,
>> however:
>> "Ambi.decode~ decodes an ambisonic encoded sound field to a user-defined
>> speaker array of up to 16 channels (more can be added by using more than
>> one ambi.decode~ object). Messages control the speaker layout, global gain,
>> mono/spatialized balance, and decoding order weights."
>>
>> i don't understand how one could just use two independent decoders and
>> still arrive at an optimum decoding result. it's not clear how the decoder
>> works, and i'm not sure it's really state-of-the-art... others may be able
>> to comment.
>>
> You'd certainly want to look at doing some manual optimisation with
> multiple decoders, which might be as simple (and time consuming!) as just
> tweaking things by ear or might involve a full scale optimisation using
> something like Bruce Wiggins' heuristic approach.
>
>
>  check out the BLaH paper "is my decoder ambisonic?" for some of the
>> pitfalls and a list of known-good decoders.
>>
>>  But do be aware that the excellent work that has been done for these
> papers by Eric, Richard and Aaron is (currently (that I'm aware of)) only
> for first order decoders and domestic sized rigs.
>
>
>  Ideally  I would like to have 8 (maybe more) speakers that I could
>>> configure in various different ways.
>>>
>>
>> for larger audiences than, say, 5-10 people, i would recommend a
>> third-order horizontal-only ring of eight if you are looking for proper
>> localisation. a cube in my experience is problematic for more than one
>> listener, unless all you want is envelopment.
>>
>>  Agreed.
>
>Dave
>
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Re: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

[Anthony Palomba]

The size of the room will vary from venue to venue. I also have to keep
in mind the logistics of how much gear I will have to haul around, as well
as the cost.

But I was think 12 speakers configured in a two level ring
or cube around the audience. Are 12 speakers enough to
effectively produce spatial placement?




-ap





On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Peter Lennox  wrote:

> 1st order or second, horizontal only or full periphonic, how many
> speakers, what radius, how many punters at any one time, any flying
> problems?
>
> p.s. - I've had decent results with a 2nd order 32 speaker rig on a dome,
> with crossovers in the B-format chain, using 8x subs in horizontal 1st
> order - floor standing - gets rid of a lot of the flying problems
>
> Dr Peter Lennox
> School of Technology
> University of Derby, UK
> tel: 01332 593155
> e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu]
> On Behalf Of Anthony Palomba
> Sent: 06 June 2012 18:33
> To: Surround Sound discussion group
> Subject: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I am looking to setup an ambisonic sounds system for use in music
> performance.
>
> I apologize if this subject has come up already, but I tried searching the
> email archive, the search feature does not work!
>
> The general idea is to have multiple audio tracks encoded in Max/MSP and
> then
> send that to a decoder which would then send the audio to speakers.
>
> Some questions:
> 1. what kind of decoder should I use: hardware or software?
> I assume is using a software decoder it will be running on another
> computer.
>
> 2. What would be a good scalable and portable strategy to get the audio to
> the speakers?
> Running a bunch of cables all over the place would be a nightmare. Are
> there
> wireless options?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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Re: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

[Anthony Palomba]

Hello Jörn,

Thanks for your response. I use Max/MSP and Abelton Live
running on a mac.

I figured I would decode on a separate machine because
I thought it might be CPU intensive. The laptop I am running the
performance on, will already be working pretty hard doing other
signal/video processing tasks.

There are ambisonic encode/decode externals for Max...
http://www.grahamwakefield.net/soft/ambi~/index.htm
That might be the easiest thing to try first.

Ideally  I would like to have 8 (maybe more) speakers that I could
configure in various different ways.




-ap



On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier <
netti...@stackingdwarves.net> wrote:

> On 06/06/2012 07:33 PM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>
>  The general idea is to have multiple audio tracks encoded in Max/MSP and
>> then
>> send that to a decoder which would then send the audio to speakers.
>>
>> Some questions:
>> 1. what kind of decoder should I use: hardware or software?
>> I assume is using a software decoder it will be running on another
>> computer.
>>
>
> software. but why would you want to use a separate computer for that?
> either find something that works in max/msp, or use jack to patch the
> generated b-format into ambdec or another decoder of your choice. what
> platform are you on?
>
>
>  2. What would be a good scalable and portable strategy to get the audio to
>> the speakers?
>> Running a bunch of cables all over the place would be a nightmare. Are
>> there
>> wireless options?
>>
>
> since you seem to have a problem with nightmares (i can relate to that!),
> wireless is definitely _not_ an option. running cables isn't too hard. if
> you must minimize the amount of cabling, go for passive speakers with a
> centralized amp rack - that way, there is only one wire per speaker.
>
> how many channels are we talking about?
>
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[Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

[Anthony Palomba]

Hey folks,

I am looking to setup an ambisonic sounds system for use in music
performance.

I apologize if this subject has come up already, but I tried searching the
email archive, the search feature does not work!

The general idea is to have multiple audio tracks encoded in Max/MSP and
then
send that to a decoder which would then send the audio to speakers.

Some questions:
1. what kind of decoder should I use: hardware or software?
I assume is using a software decoder it will be running on another
computer.

2. What would be a good scalable and portable strategy to get the audio to
the speakers?
Running a bunch of cables all over the place would be a nightmare. Are there
wireless options?




Thanks,
Anthony
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Re: [Sursound] ANN: Ambisonic Toolkit v1.0.0

[Anthony Palomba]

Thanks!


-ap


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:

>
>  Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:28:33 -0500
>> From: Anthony Palomba 
>>
>>
>> Does any one know if somethings like this exists for MAX/MSP?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anthony
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> There have been several things over the years.
>
> The first was Spat~ from Ircam, a whole load of Max/MSP objects to do
> ambisonics, binaural and other spatial sound processing. Some high level
> objects which incorporated reverb, and which made modest computers of the
> time slow to a crawl when trying to use more than one or two instances. A
> lot of more basic objects which worked, but the documentation didn't
> explain them and inputs and outputs were unlabelled, so you had to play
> around a lot to understand what they did and how to control them.
>
> They were only available by subscribing annually to Ircam, and after a few
> years I couldn't really justify the expense and decided to build my own
> from scratch in Max/MSP. At least then you know what is going on inside,
> can tailor it to what you are trying to do, and modify it in the light of
> better knowledge. I thought about turning them into a 'toolkit', but
> decided to try and make a whole application that could handle multiple
> inputs and outputs, with a global reverb.
>
> When I visited Ircam some 6 years back they said that they were planning
> to overhaul the lot and improve the documentation, but I don't know whether
> this happened. I suspect that a lot of it went into Spat and Verb from Flux
> plug-ins.
>
> There's a good set of Max objects by ICST
>
> http://www.icst.net/research/**downloads/ambisonics-**
> externals-for-maxmsp/<http://www.icst.net/research/downloads/ambisonics-externals-for-maxmsp/>
>
> And another set by Graham Wakefield, dated 2006 and they look like Max 4.
> Possibly still work in Max 5 or 6.
>
> http://www.grahamwakefield.**net/soft/ambi~/index.htm<http://www.grahamwakefield.net/soft/ambi%7E/index.htm>
>
> There are also ambisonic and other spatial audio processors as part of
> Jamoma.
>
> I've never really investigated any of these, though I have heard of
> several people using the ICST ones.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Dave Hunt
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>  Hello All,
>>>
>>> On the behalf of the Ambisonic Toolkit's development team, I'm pleased to
>>> announce the Ambisonic Toolkit v1.0.0 library for SuperCollider3 has been
>>> released and is now available for download and installation:
>>>
>>> http://www.ambisonictoolkit.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=***
>>> *Downloads<http://www.**ambisonictoolkit.net/wiki/**
>>> tiki-index.php?page=Downloads<http://www.ambisonictoolkit.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Downloads>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NOTE: The Ambisonic Toolkit requires SuperCollider version 3.5.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> The Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) brings together a number of classic and novel
>>> tools for the artist working with Ambisonic surround sound. The toolset
>>> in
>>> intended to be both ergonomic and comprehensive, framed so that the user
>>> is
>>> enabled to ?think Ambisonic?. By this, the ATK addresses the holistic
>>>
>>> problem of creatively controlling a complete soundfield, facilitating
>>> spatial composition beyond simple placement of sounds in a sound-scene.
>>> The
>>> artist is empowered to address the impression and imaging of a soundfield
>>> ?taking advantage of the native soundfield-kernel paradigm the Ambisonic
>>> technique presents.
>>>
>>> Along with powerful soundfield transforms?the spatial filtering tools
>>> enabling soundfield-kernel reshaping?the ATK provides a comprehensive set
>>>
>>> of Ambisonic encoders (including pseudo-inverse) and decoders (5.1,
>>> binaural, UHJ, full-3D) allowing users to thoroughly leverage the power
>>> of
>>> the Ambisonic technique.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> The SuperCollider3 version of the Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) is free
>>> software, and is published under the GPLv3 free software license.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> We welcome contributions that help make the ATK a comprehensive solution
>>> for artists and musicians. If you are interested in contributing to the
>>> codebase and becoming an ATK developer, please join the community.
>>>
>>>
&

Re: [Sursound] ANN: Ambisonic Toolkit v1.0.0

[Anthony Palomba]

Does any one know if somethings like this exists for MAX/MSP?


Thanks,
Anthony



On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM,  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> On the behalf of the Ambisonic Toolkit's development team, I'm pleased to
> announce the Ambisonic Toolkit v1.0.0 library for SuperCollider3 has been
> released and is now available for download and installation:
>
> http://www.ambisonictoolkit.**net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=**Downloads
>
>
> NOTE: The Ambisonic Toolkit requires SuperCollider version 3.5.
>
>
> ---
> The Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) brings together a number of classic and novel
> tools for the artist working with Ambisonic surround sound. The toolset in
> intended to be both ergonomic and comprehensive, framed so that the user is
> enabled to ‘think Ambisonic’. By this, the ATK addresses the holistic
> problem of creatively controlling a complete soundfield, facilitating
> spatial composition beyond simple placement of sounds in a sound-scene. The
> artist is empowered to address the impression and imaging of a soundfield
> —taking advantage of the native soundfield-kernel paradigm the Ambisonic
> technique presents.
>
> Along with powerful soundfield transforms—the spatial filtering tools
> enabling soundfield-kernel reshaping—the ATK provides a comprehensive set
> of Ambisonic encoders (including pseudo-inverse) and decoders (5.1,
> binaural, UHJ, full-3D) allowing users to thoroughly leverage the power of
> the Ambisonic technique.
>
> ---
> The SuperCollider3 version of the Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) is free
> software, and is published under the GPLv3 free software license.
>
>
> ---
> We welcome contributions that help make the ATK a comprehensive solution
> for artists and musicians. If you are interested in contributing to the
> codebase and becoming an ATK developer, please join the community.
>
>
> ---
> Also of note, we'll presenting the ATK at two upcoming events:
>
>
> 25th AES UK Conference: Spatial Audio in Today’s 3D World
> in association with the
> 4th International Symposium on Ambisonics and Spherical Acoustics
> York, UK
> 25 - 27 March 2012
> http://www.aes-uk.org/uk-**conference/25th-conf-spatial-**
> audio-in-todays-3d-world/
>
>
> AND
>
>
> SC.symposium.play(s)
> A week-long festival dedicated to the SuperCollider audio programming
> environment.
> London, UK
> 12 - 19 April 2012
> http://www.sc2012.org.uk/
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup

[Anthony Palomba]

I am very interested in this as well. I have been thinking about
taking the 3d audio plunge and would like to figure out
what kind of setup I would need.

I would also be interested in knowing what you guys are
using to do the encoding of the audio streams.




Anthony




On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Pedro Lopes  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Impressive setup you have there.
> I'm also building an 8 speaker ambisonic setup, although budget limitations
> will force me to buy something like YamahaHs50, KRK rokit, or Mackies...
> something in the 150€ price range per speaker.
>
> ThomasChen do you use two octagons one above the other?
>
> I'm researching about my speaker positioning, and considering two quads
> (rectangles), one vertical and one horizontal. The goal is to provide a
> small space (3 by 3 meters) with 3D sound with ambisonics. Whats the
> general
> though on 8 speaker positioning?
>
> I attached an idea of the placing, for illustration purposes.
>
> best regards,
> Pedro
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Darren
> >
> > I am using a dual octagon setup with ambisonic plus stereo playback.   I
> > have custom decoder implemented in Scope--Soniccore.  I am using Genelec
> > speakers with larger for the front and small for the rear.  The addition
> of
> > powered speakers is that the addition gives much greater sound pressure.
> > The
> > advantage of distributed sound sources is that the sound level is more
> > tolerable than from two.  They are in a 1000 sq. ft. room
> >
> > ThomasChen
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/5/2011 6:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > i...@sacredresonance.com.au writes:
> >
> > Hi  Darren here,
> >
> > I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup  using ambisonic
> > software to create immersive sound running out of "M-aduio  firewire 410"
> >
> > I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do  testing in house
> > and use for live setup as well -
> >
> > what you think is  the cheapest option being 8 speakers.
> >
> > 1. What speakers should: (to  buy)
> >
> > a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near  field.
> >
> > b) or just powered speakers.
> >
> > Please any ideas of what to  buy with this setup
> >
> > thanks
> > Darren
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics setup

[Anthony Palomba]

Hey Jörn,

Thanks for the info, this is just what I was looking for.
The video was very informative, I will study the paper as well.


Thanks for your help.


Anthony




2011/3/25 Jörn Nettingsmeier 

> On 03/25/2011 05:29 PM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
>
>> So just to review things...
>>
>> I would like to take a multichannel performance and encode it in
>> an ambisonic format, then decode it and send it to multiple speakers.
>>
>
> you might be interested in a paper i did for last year's ambisonic
> symposium, which deals with just this situation:
>
> http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/ambisonic_symposium_2010/nettingsmeier_ambisonic_systems_for%20electro-acoustic_concerts-rev3.pdf
>
> there's also a video of the presentation:
>
> http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/lac2010/day2_1130_General_purpose_Ambisonic_playback_systems_for_electroacoustic_concerts.ogv
>
>
>  I want to also be able to easily configure the number of speakers.
>> My performance environment is Max/Ableton.
>>
>> So on the encode side I could use Ambisonic Max externals or
>> Malham's VST mixer modules.
>>
>> Can someone give me an idea what I should do on the decode side?
>> Is there some hardware decoder I need to get? Should I use another
>> computer and use a software decoder?
>>
>
> consider jack and ambdec (been mentioned before).
>
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics setup

[Anthony Palomba]

So just to review things...

I would like to take a multichannel performance and encode it in
an ambisonic format, then decode it and send it to multiple speakers.

I want to also be able to easily configure the number of speakers.
My performance environment is Max/Ableton.

So on the encode side I could use Ambisonic Max externals or
Malham's VST mixer modules.

Can someone give me an idea what I should do on the decode side?
Is there some hardware decoder I need to get? Should I use another
computer and use a software decoder?




Thanks,
Anthony



On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote:

> I am very interested in this as well. I would like to eventually add
> multichannel
> capabilities to my performances.
>
> I would also add the question...
>
> If I want the setup to be scalable, that is to be able to go from a 4
> channel cube
> to a 12 channel configuration, what do I need to keep in mind?
>
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Darren - Bradley <
> i...@sacredresonance.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi I am looking at recording 4 mono tracks with different samples on them
>> and then (not recording in ambisonic format) just in 'Ableton Live' - doing
>> an ambisonic setup with four speakers  in a cube (room) > to create a better
>> setup then quadaphonic
>>
>> what do people suggest to do this I would like to route 4 mono tracks out
>> of Albeton Live into say max/msp or audiomulch then output into ambisonics
>> setup?
>>
>> How do I do this ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Darren
>> Adelaide
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Re: [Sursound] Hey Hector - Ambisonics ambdec fail on install

[Anthony Palomba]

Can someone please post a link to ambdec?



Anthony



On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Darren - Bradley <
i...@sacredresonance.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Hector,
>
> on the launch of the software the ambdec it fails so there must be an issue
> with the install,
>
> cheers
>
> Darren
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Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics setup

[Anthony Palomba]

I am very interested in this as well. I would like to eventually add
multichannel
capabilities to my performances.

I would also add the question...

If I want the setup to be scalable, that is to be able to go from a 4
channel cube
to a 12 channel configuration, what do I need to keep in mind?




Anthony


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Darren - Bradley <
i...@sacredresonance.com.au> wrote:

> Hi I am looking at recording 4 mono tracks with different samples on them
> and then (not recording in ambisonic format) just in 'Ableton Live' - doing
> an ambisonic setup with four speakers  in a cube (room) > to create a better
> setup then quadaphonic
>
> what do people suggest to do this I would like to route 4 mono tracks out
> of Albeton Live into say max/msp or audiomulch then output into ambisonics
> setup?
>
> How do I do this ?
>
> Thanks
> Darren
> Adelaide
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