Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Charles Verron]

Hello,

If you ever need to convert FOA FuMa to ambiX (or vice-versa) Noise Makers
recently released a free plugin compatible with Protools, Logic Pro, Reaper
etc.
It is available here :
www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-converter

Cheers,

Charles




> Stefan Schreiber wrote:
>
> >
> >> ambiX (WYZX)
> >
> >
> > Is this really correct? I see ... huge opportunities for future
> > channel confusion.
>
>
> It is...
>
> https://github.com/google/spatial-media/issues/74
>
> "Despite certain academic biases toward ACN (WYZX) channel ordering due
> to its algorithmic elegance (particularly in the case order > 1), FuMa
> (WXYZ) is the prevailing channel ordering used by b-format
> post-production tools such as: ..."
>
> "I agree, but I suspect it's too late to change from AmbiX now, and I
> have to admit that ACN makes much more sense from a channel ordering
> point of view, in the long term (higher orders)."
>
> People will have to learn to distinguish between "SF mike" and "YouTube"
> Ambisonics formats. It's not about HOA, Google decided, resistance was
> lowish - and now we probably have two < 1st order formats >.
>
> It is maybe not a huge damage, as long as all "these" VR 360?
> postproducers are just aware of the theoretical basics. Otherwise...
>
> Best,
>
> Stefan
>
> >
> >
> > P.S.: Means X goes into Y, Y into Z and Z into X. How does it
> > sound?:-)
> >
> "Quite good, but we decided to switch over to Dolby Atmos for VR - after
> extensive listening to SF mike recordings via Jump Inspector..."   :-D
>
> I simply would  have introduced AmbiX as HOA format, the real idea
> behind the AmbiX development anyway. Not at 1st order...
>
> But if people love to convert all the time and especially don't forget
> to convert, things will work out. Just follow Google and BELIEVE in
> their wisdom and power.
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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Stefan Schreiber]

Stefan Schreiber wrote:




ambiX (WYZX)



Is this really correct? I see ... huge opportunities for future 
channel confusion.



It is...

https://github.com/google/spatial-media/issues/74

"Despite certain academic biases toward ACN (WYZX) channel ordering due 
to its algorithmic elegance (particularly in the case order > 1), FuMa 
(WXYZ) is the prevailing channel ordering used by b-format 
post-production tools such as: ..."


"I agree, but I suspect it's too late to change from AmbiX now, and I 
have to admit that ACN makes much more sense from a channel ordering 
point of view, in the long term (higher orders)."


People will have to learn to distinguish between "SF mike" and "YouTube" 
Ambisonics formats. It's not about HOA, Google decided, resistance was 
lowish - and now we probably have two < 1st order formats >.


It is maybe not a huge damage, as long as all "these" VR 360º 
postproducers are just aware of the theoretical basics. Otherwise...


Best,

Stefan




P.S.: Means X goes into Y, Y into Z and Z into X. How does it 
sound?:-)


"Quite good, but we decided to switch over to Dolby Atmos for VR - after 
extensive listening to SF mike recordings via Jump Inspector..."   :-D


I simply would  have introduced AmbiX as HOA format, the real idea 
behind the AmbiX development anyway. Not at 1st order...


But if people love to convert all the time and especially don't forget 
to convert, things will work out. Just follow Google and BELIEVE in 
their wisdom and power.



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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Stefan Schreiber]

Stefan Schreiber wrote:


Hi all...

FYI

(Did we already "review" this? )

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/7/25/ambi-head-b-format-ambisonics-to-binaural-plug-in-now-available 




My  mail just landed in the Ambi Head thread on my mail client, so we 
"had" this ...   ;-)


"Noise Makers, the makers of Ambi Head have released this new plugin, 
which converts ambisonic B-format signals into 3D binaural audio. It 
allows manipulations of 3D scenes (rotations and control of spatial 
width) and contains features specifically designed for immersive listening."



Support ambiX (WYZX) and FuMa (WXYZ) New in v1.1



So, this  all refers to be a new version - not to a completely new plugin.

(Complaint: I got misled by "Pro Tools Experts"...   )

Best,

Stefan

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[Sursound] Ambi Head

[Stefan Schreiber]

Hi all...

FYI

(Did we already "review" this? )

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/7/25/ambi-head-b-format-ambisonics-to-binaural-plug-in-now-available

"Noise Makers, the makers of Ambi Head have released this new plugin, 
which converts ambisonic B-format signals into 3D binaural audio. It 
allows manipulations of 3D scenes (rotations and control of spatial 
width) and contains features specifically designed for immersive listening.


As we have discussed in previous podcasts the entry of virtual reality 
content, needs immersive sound to go with it and so we are seeing a 
growth in Pro Tools based immersive sound solutions outside of the 
cinema workflow."



"Noise Makers have already entered this market with Ambi Pan which 
enables you to take mono and stereo audio and pan it around an 
Ambisonics sound field and now hot on the heels of Ambi Pan, Noise 
Makers have released Ambi Head."




* 3D binaural decoding of Ambisonic signals
* Spatial width control
* Scene rotation (Z axis)
* SOFA importer for custom HRTF filters
* Goniometer (Lissajous display of the binaural output)
* Sampling frequency up to 192 kHz
* Support ambiX (WYZX) and FuMa (WXYZ) New in v1.1
* Input : B-format (ambiX or FuMa)
* Output : BINAURAL STEREO




ambiX (WYZX)


Is this really correct? I see ... huge opportunities for future channel 
confusion.



Kind regards,

Stefan

P.S.: Means X goes into Y, Y into Z and Z into X. How does it sound?:-)
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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Charles Verron]

Thanks for your comment Dave.
For info, the intro price ends in three days (59 instead of 99 euros).
Feedback and feature requests are welcome for the next releases.

Best regards,

Charles 
www.noisemakers.fr

On 13 mars 2016, at 13:36, Dave Hunt  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I listened to this using Max/MSP with a mono sound source and my own 
> first-order ambisonic panner. With the default HRIR it is generally 
> convincing with no readily audible effect on the tonality of the sound except 
> when panning up or down, which is probably to be expected.
> 
> A bit of a bargain at 59 Euros.
> 
> It seems to be a 4 in 2 out plug-in, so first order only.
> 
> Logic has some very curious things going on for anything beyond "quad". My 
> experiments with Logic 9 indicate that it is usable for first order 
> ambisonics in a fairly limited fashion. This plug-in should be placed on a 
> "Quad" output, which is fed ambisonic encoded four channel signals.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Dave Hunt
> 
> 
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
> 
>> From: Jon Honeyball 
>> Date: 11 March 2016 10:29:04 GMT
>> To: Surround Sound discussion group 
>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.
>> 
>> On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ 
>>> <http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?
>>> 
>>> I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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>> From: umashankar manthravadi 
>> Date: 11 March 2016 11:00:30 GMT
>> To: Jon Honeyball , Surround Sound discussion group 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head
>> 
>> 
>> Just downloaded the demo version and will try it. Highly kicked that brahma 
>> is there on their list!
>> 
>> umashankar
>> 
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>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:59 PM
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>> 
>> Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.
>> 
>> On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ 
>>> <http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?
>>> 
>>> I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paul
> 
>> From: søren Bendixen 
>> Date: 12 March 2016 10:37:58 GMT
>> To: Surround Sound discussion group 
>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head
>> 
>> 
>> It does´t work with Logic Pro X - but almost none of the all the plugins
>> for decoding/converting ambisonics works in logic - or the work with
>> limitations, odd behavior or only  fine up to 5.1. For other DAW´s Ambi
>> Head seems like a cool plug in
>> 
>> Regards
>> Søren Bendixen
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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Dave Hunt]

Hi,

I listened to this using Max/MSP with a mono sound source and my own  
first-order ambisonic panner. With the default HRIR it is generally  
convincing with no readily audible effect on the tonality of the  
sound except when panning up or down, which is probably to be expected.


A bit of a bargain at 59 Euros.

It seems to be a 4 in 2 out plug-in, so first order only.

Logic has some very curious things going on for anything beyond  
"quad". My experiments with Logic 9 indicate that it is usable for  
first order ambisonics in a fairly limited fashion. This plug-in  
should be placed on a "Quad" output, which is fed ambisonic encoded  
four channel signals.


Ciao,

Dave Hunt


On 11 Mar 2016, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:


From: Jon Honeyball 
Date: 11 March 2016 10:29:04 GMT
To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head


Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.

On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch"  
paul.doornbu...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi,

Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/  
<http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?


I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.

Thanks,
Paul

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From: umashankar manthravadi 
Date: 11 March 2016 11:00:30 GMT
To: Jon Honeyball , Surround Sound discussion  
group 

Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head


Just downloaded the demo version and will try it. Highly kicked  
that brahma is there on their list!


umashankar

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 3:59 PM
To: Surround Sound discussion group<mailto:sursound@music.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.

On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch"  
paul.doornbu...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi,

Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/  
<http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?


I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.

Thanks,
Paul



From: søren Bendixen 
Date: 12 March 2016 10:37:58 GMT
To: Surround Sound discussion group 
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head


It does´t work with Logic Pro X - but almost none of the all the  
plugins

for decoding/converting ambisonics works in logic - or the work with
limitations, odd behavior or only  fine up to 5.1. For other DAW´s  
Ambi

Head seems like a cool plug in

Regards
Søren Bendixen

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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

[Søren Bendixen]

If you have any experience with ambisonic/bformat files and logic to share 
please do so - I´m working in 7.1 (3/4.1) for a major project and wanted to 
decode to 7.1.
Sound field limited will not show up in 7.1 (3/4.1) but only in 7-1 (SDDS) (and 
also “lower” formats)
Harpex B works excellent in 5.1 but to my ears not i 7.1
All the VST´s is no go (I don´t have vst to au adapter)

I´m still a newbie re. ambisonic/Bformat but it seems and sounds very promising.

Regards
Søren Bendixen
> Den 12. mar. 2016 kl. 18.26 skrev Courville, Daniel 
> :
> 
> S?ren Bendixen wrote :
> 
>> It does?t work with Logic Pro X - but almost none of the all the plugins
>> for decoding/converting ambisonics works in logic - or the work with
>> limitations, odd behavior or only  fine up to 5.1. For other DAW?s Ambi
>> Head seems like a cool plug in
> 
> It does work in Logic Pro X 10.2.2.
> 
> I selected "Quadraphonic" as the surround format for the LPX project and I 
> dragged a quad file in the audio track: without a quad file in the track, the 
> track will stay mono and the Ambi Head plug-in won't be available as an 
> insert.
> 
> - Daniel
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Re: [Sursound] Ambi Head

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S?ren Bendixen wrote :

>It does?t work with Logic Pro X - but almost none of the all the plugins
>for decoding/converting ambisonics works in logic - or the work with
>limitations, odd behavior or only  fine up to 5.1. For other DAW?s Ambi
>Head seems like a cool plug in

It does work in Logic Pro X 10.2.2.

I selected "Quadraphonic" as the surround format for the LPX project and I 
dragged a quad file in the audio track: without a quad file in the track, the 
track will stay mono and the Ambi Head plug-in won't be available as an insert.

- Daniel

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[søren Bendixen]

It does´t work with Logic Pro X - but almost none of the all the plugins
for decoding/converting ambisonics works in logic - or the work with
limitations, odd behavior or only  fine up to 5.1. For other DAW´s Ambi
Head seems like a cool plug in

Regards
Søren Bendixen

2016-03-11 12:00 GMT+01:00 umashankar manthravadi :

> Just downloaded the demo version and will try it. Highly kicked that
> brahma is there on their list!
>
> umashankar
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> Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.
>
> On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch" <
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> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ <
> http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?
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Just downloaded the demo version and will try it. Highly kicked that brahma is 
there on their list!

umashankar

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Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.

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 wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ 
><http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/> ?
>
>I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.
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Interesting – much cheaper than the alternative.

On 10/03/2016, 05:53, "Sursound on behalf of Paul Doornbusch" 
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>Hi,
>
>Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ 
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>
>I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.
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>Thanks,
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[Sursound] Ambi Head

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Hi,

Has anyone tried Ambi Head - http://www.noisemakers.fr/ambi-head/ 
 ?

I’m just curious how well it works if people have tried it.

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