Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Dave Malham wrote: Good grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very expensive? Dave It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less material than for the frame... :-) Stefan On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white holder and metal frame where 3D printed. Best, Hector On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/fb3d2d02/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/d71be264/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hi Dave, Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28. Best, Hector Dave Malham wrote: Good grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very expensive? Dave It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less material than for the frame... :-) Stefan On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white holder and metal frame where 3D printed. Best, Hector On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140505/fb3d2d02/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140521/d71be264/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/2b348b36/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hector, That's a great price for 3D printing in metal. What company did you use? Thanks, Conor On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28. Best, Hector Dave Malham wrote: Good grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very expensive? Dave It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less material than for the frame... :-) Stefan On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white holder and metal frame where 3D printed. Best, Hector On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140505/fb3d2d02/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140521/d71be264/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/2b348b36/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- VisiSonics Corporation 387 Technology Dr. College Park, MD 20742 www.visisonics.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/941767c1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hi Conor, It was www.shapeways.com You can make your uploaded models available to others. If the mic proves to be useful I'll make the parts public so others can order them directly. Best, Hector On May 21, 2014 2:28 PM, Conor Mulvey cono...@visisonics.com wrote: Hector, That's a great price for 3D printing in metal. What company did you use? Thanks, Conor On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28. Best, Hector Dave Malham wrote: Good grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very expensive? Dave It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less material than for the frame... :-) Stefan On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white holder and metal frame where 3D printed. Best, Hector On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140505/fb3d2d02/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140521/d71be264/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/2b348b36/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- VisiSonics Corporation 387 Technology Dr. College Park, MD 20742 www.visisonics.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/941767c1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/2a3b22b9/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Last time I looked at something like that, they were talking hundreds Dave On 21 May 2014 19:16, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave, Yes, the metal frame was 3D printed. It costed about $28. Best, Hector Dave Malham wrote: Good grief - you printed the metal frame? I thought that was still very expensive? Dave It would be cheaper to print the capsules. 'Cos you would need less material than for the frame... :-) Stefan On 5 May 2014 22:15, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: No, the capsules are not printed (it would be great if I could!). The white holder and metal frame where 3D printed. Best, Hector On May 5, 2014 2:00 PM, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140505/fb3d2d02/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ attachments/20140521/d71be264/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140521/2b348b36/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University. These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University Dave Malham Honorary Fellow, Department of Music The University of York York YO10 5DD UK 'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio' -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140522/6b51990b/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
[Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/cfda5ca1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector Really cool, and very creative! Which parts did you actually print? You can't print the capsules itself, can you? It is probably not just me who would like to ask this question... Best regards, Stefan ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Bravo on the mic! I have played your file (as my set up is restricted to 4.0 horizontal mode, I have only matrixed channels W, X Y). I find it difficult to know at what level to set the W channel, as what appears to be going on all around is (excuse me, no offence intended!) rather chaotic. Could you provide a file of someone talking at the front, rear and sides of the array? This would enable calibration of the relative levels of WXY. I spent some time doing this with my own pantophonic mic recently and was pleased with the results. David At 19:40 05-05-14, Hector Centeno wrote: Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/cfda5ca1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
dear hector what capsules did you use? these look like 10 mm. Zoom h2n uses something similar for the s part of the ms microphone but I have not seen omnis. I like the 3d print. my own version uses six cardioid capsules, but I never completed it. umashankar Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:40:45 -0400 From: hcen...@gmail.com To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/cfda5ca1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140506/1c9df7d1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone
Hello Umashankar, Yes, they are all 10mm capsules. The bi-directional capsules are EM-183, probably the same as the Zoom H2n, and the omni is a EM-172. Best, Hector On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:33 PM, umashankar manthravadi umasha...@hotmail.com wrote: dear hector what capsules did you use? these look like 10 mm. Zoom h2n uses something similar for the s part of the ms microphone but I have not seen omnis. I like the 3d print. my own version uses six cardioid capsules, but I never completed it. umashankar Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:40:45 -0400 From: hcen...@gmail.com To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone Hello all, I've been experimenting with making a native B-Format mic using 3D printed parts. I've done some recordings with it and I was wondering if people here with ambisonic playback systems could give one of them a try. Any comments will be very appreciated. A photo of the mic: http://www.hcenteno.net/extras/b-format_mic.jpg Link to binaural decode and link to B-Format file (in the description): https://soundcloud.com/hcenteno/wow-what-is-that-papa Change the level of the W channel to taste (the W capsule is more sensitive than the rest so I had to reduce it to what sounded good to me). Thanks and best wishes, Hector -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/cfda5ca1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140506/1c9df7d1/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20140505/548abbfe/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
