Re: [Sursound] Directional confusion between different B-format players

2015-06-17 Thread Richard Lee
How is the Oktava Tetrahedral mike calibrated?

In what form are the calibration files?

Can you post a copy of the User Manual for it?

http://www.oktavausa.com/ProductsPages/Ambient4DMic.html has no info at all.
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Re: [Sursound] Directional confusion between different B-format players

2015-06-17 Thread umashankar manthravadi
I was going to ask the same thing

Umashankar 

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 How is the Oktava Tetrahedral mike calibrated?
 
 In what form are the calibration files?
 
 Can you post a copy of the User Manual for it?
 
 http://www.oktavausa.com/ProductsPages/Ambient4DMic.html has no info at all.
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Re: [Sursound] Directional confusion between different B-format players

2015-06-14 Thread Michael Chapman
 I have a problem of directional confusion that depends on which B-format
 player is used.

Well it could be something subtle ... then again it could be one of those
classic coding errors ... ;-)

Get Aaron Heller's Eight Positions off Ambisonia and massage that
through your two bits of software  ?

If you can't get it, I have my own 26-positions (but you shouldn't need
that for a L---R swap problem ... though it will work just as well). I
can send a copy.

If you can eliminate a coding error ... then it gets interesting ...

Michael

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[Sursound] Directional confusion between different B-format players

2015-06-13 Thread Gerard Lardner
I have a problem of directional confusion that depends on which B-format 
player is used. I recorded a concert using my Oktava MK-012 4D ambisonic 
microphone and encoded it to B-format using Brahmavolver. Yesterday, 
while playing back the recording with the conductor we noticed that 
under certain circumstances left and right appeared to be swapped.


At the time we were trying different virtual mic combinations to improve 
the clarity of certain divisions of the choir, for ordinary stereo 
playback. At first I used Harpex B player, because of the useful sound 
scope display, then, when we had identified a likely mic configuration, 
I processed the (B-format) files with VVmic using the same mic 
configuration. What we noticed was that /in most cases/ the stereo files 
created in VVmic sounded just the same as when we played the recording 
in Harpex B player, for the same virtual mic configuration. But if the 
mic configuration was Blumlein (crossed fig-8s at 90°), then in the 
VVmic-produced files very audibly the sopranos and violins were swapped 
from the left side of the soundstage to the right side, and other very 
obvious voices (basses, altos) and instruments (cellos and double 
basses) were swapped from the right side, where they had been on stage, 
to the left side.


Everything sounds correct for any microphone combination in Harpex B 
player; everything seems correct also in VVmic except if fig-8s are 
selected. I would like to base my recording on the Blumlein 
configuration as the basis, with other reinforcing mics added in. But it 
is not working for me if I use VVmic (and I can't afford the full 
version of Harpex). Can anyone explain what might be happening?


Gerard Lardner

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