Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-29 Thread Stefan Schreiber

Dave Malham wrote:


Hi

On 28 June 2015 at 17:35, Dave Hunt davehuntau...@btinternet.com wrote:

 


Hi,

I agree with Stefan.

One would have to undo a binaural encode to something else, then do a
dynamic head-tracked re-encode.


   


This can be sort of done by using blind source separation techniques to
pull out the principle sources and their approximate positions then panning
them into a B format form, adding the remainder as a more-or-less diffuse
reverberant field. Note carefully I said sort of done - ok for consumer
stuff (after all, mp3 is ok for consumer stuff) but not for anything
serious, except for use in compositions, where the choices are down to the
composer.

 Best
 Another Dave
 



I wrote you  would need the reconstruction of a real or abstracted 
(say B format...) sound field from a binaural recording.


I don't believe there is a serious difference between consumer stuff 
and professional grade, in this case.



done by using blind source separation techniques to
pull out the principle sources and their approximate positions then panning
them into a B format form



Sounds a lot like some new forms of parametric B format decoders we 
recently have discussed, but didn't implement yet.O:-) Beside of 
this, I of course understand what you write...



Hint: Would you not need some (individual) HRIR/HRTF measurements, to 
apply blind source separation?


The biggest problem I see is that different directions could result in 
similar (even identical) ear signals. In a mathematical sense, you can't 
invert. To find (pragmatic) predominant sound directions, you probably 
have too little and too ambiguous data to start with.


It is hard to prove my point, though. On the other hand, I don't know 
of any evidence that any people have (more or less...) successfully 
demonstrated what according to you  could  be possible.   :-)


Best,

Stefan




 


I did once try to transform a binaural signal to first order B-Format
ambisonics with height using Max/MSP using a fairly simple algorithm. It
sounded reasonably convincing, but was almost certainly not correct in any
sense. It was just an attempt to use binaural files in a 1st order
ambisonic environment along with mono, stereo, MS etc.

Ciao,

Dave

From: Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
   


Date: 28 June 2015 01:44:45 BDT
To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone


Anthony Mattana wrote:


 


We are currently in talks with software spatialization companies
regarding adding an algorithm that would allow Hooke to be used as a head
tracking audio playback option for VR scenarios. And this could be added to
your Hooke via a OTA software update months after you purchase the
headphones :-)


   


And how can you apply head-tracking to a binaural recording?

Last time I have argued that B format recordings allow (easy) application
of HT, binaural recordings actually not.
You can't reconstruct the real or B format sound field from a binaural
recording. If not, I don't see how you could apply HRTF data sets to
calculate a (new) binaural representation - corresponding to your current
head orientation. I am very open for smart algorithms, but still...

No way, IMO!

Best,

Stefan

 


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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-29 Thread Dave Malham
Hi

On 28 June 2015 at 17:35, Dave Hunt davehuntau...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I agree with Stefan.

 One would have to undo a binaural encode to something else, then do a
 dynamic head-tracked re-encode.


This can be sort of done by using blind source separation techniques to
pull out the principle sources and their approximate positions then panning
them into a B format form, adding the remainder as a more-or-less diffuse
reverberant field. Note carefully I said sort of done - ok for consumer
stuff (after all, mp3 is ok for consumer stuff) but not for anything
serious, except for use in compositions, where the choices are down to the
composer.

  Best
  Another Dave


 I did once try to transform a binaural signal to first order B-Format
 ambisonics with height using Max/MSP using a fairly simple algorithm. It
 sounded reasonably convincing, but was almost certainly not correct in any
 sense. It was just an attempt to use binaural files in a 1st order
 ambisonic environment along with mono, stereo, MS etc.

 Ciao,

 Dave

  From: Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
 Date: 28 June 2015 01:44:45 BDT
 To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone


 Anthony Mattana wrote:


 We are currently in talks with software spatialization companies
 regarding adding an algorithm that would allow Hooke to be used as a head
 tracking audio playback option for VR scenarios. And this could be added to
 your Hooke via a OTA software update months after you purchase the
 headphones :-)


 And how can you apply head-tracking to a binaural recording?

 Last time I have argued that B format recordings allow (easy) application
 of HT, binaural recordings actually not.
 You can't reconstruct the real or B format sound field from a binaural
 recording. If not, I don't see how you could apply HRTF data sets to
 calculate a (new) binaural representation - corresponding to your current
 head orientation. I am very open for smart algorithms, but still...

 No way, IMO!

 Best,

 Stefan


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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-29 Thread Stefan Schreiber

...


Dave Malham wrote:


Hi

On 28 June 2015 at 17:35, Dave Hunt davehuntau...@btinternet.com 
wrote:


 


Hi,

I agree with Stefan.

One would have to undo a binaural encode to something else, then do a
dynamic head-tracked re-encode.


  


This can be sort of done by using blind source separation 
techniques to
pull out the principle sources and their approximate positions then 
panning
them into a B format form, adding the remainder as a more-or-less 
diffuse
reverberant field. Note carefully I said sort of done - ok for 
consumer

stuff (after all, mp3 is ok for consumer stuff) but not for anything
serious, except for use in compositions, where the choices are down 
to the

composer.

 Best
 Another Dave
 



I wrote you  would need the reconstruction of a real or abstracted 
(say B format...) sound field from a binaural recording.


I don't believe there is a serious difference between consumer stuff 
and professional grade, in this case.



done by using blind source separation techniques to
pull out the principle sources and their approximate positions then 
panning

them into a B format form



...


Hint: Would you not need some (individual) HRIR/HRTF measurements, to 
apply blind source separation?


The biggest problem I see is that different directions could result in 
similar (even identical) ear signals. In a mathematical sense, you 
can't invert. To find (pragmatic) predominant sound directions, you 
probably have too little and too ambiguous data to start with.



Yet another opinion about:

http://www.jeroenbreebaart.com/papers/jaes/jaes2008.pdf

see p. 11:


It is virtually impossible to undo or invert the encoderside
HRTF processing at the decoder (which is needed
in the second use case for loudspeaker playback).


Which basically confirms my position: virtually impossible.

Anyway, who cares...   ;-)

Best regards,

Stefan





 


I did once try to transform a binaural signal to first order B-Format
ambisonics with height using Max/MSP using a fairly simple 
algorithm. It
sounded reasonably convincing, but was almost certainly not correct 
in any

sense. It was just an attempt to use binaural files in a 1st order
ambisonic environment along with mono, stereo, MS etc.

Ciao,

Dave



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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-28 Thread Dave Hunt

Hi,

I agree with Stefan.

One would have to undo a binaural encode to something else, then do a  
dynamic head-tracked re-encode.


I did once try to transform a binaural signal to first order B-Format  
ambisonics with height using Max/MSP using a fairly simple algorithm.  
It sounded reasonably convincing, but was almost certainly not  
correct in any sense. It was just an attempt to use binaural files in  
a 1st order ambisonic environment along with mono, stereo, MS etc.


Ciao,

Dave


From: Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt
Date: 28 June 2015 01:44:45 BDT
To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone


Anthony Mattana wrote:



We are currently in talks with software spatialization companies  
regarding adding an algorithm that would allow Hooke to be used as  
a head tracking audio playback option for VR scenarios. And this  
could be added to your Hooke via a OTA software update months  
after you purchase the headphones :-)




And how can you apply head-tracking to a binaural recording?

Last time I have argued that B format recordings allow (easy)  
application of HT, binaural recordings actually not.
You can't reconstruct the real or B format sound field from a  
binaural recording. If not, I don't see how you could apply HRTF  
data sets to calculate a (new) binaural representation -  
corresponding to your current head orientation. I am very open for  
smart algorithms, but still...


No way, IMO!

Best,

Stefan


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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-26 Thread len moskowitz

Anthony Mattana wrote:


...And our recording quality is just as good if not better. (hear for 
yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8EzI9ygpI ) 



Sorry to say that I was not impressed with this recording though it's 
likely adequate for a consumer crowd satisfied with low rate mp3 
recordings, lots of background noise, and degraded binaural fidelity due 
to variability in individual HRTFs.



With the Roland CS-10EM, the mic sits outside of the earlobe and 
doesn't utilize the earlobe thoroughly when reflecting acoustic 
pressure waves. 



If your mics are within the pinna, then if you use on-ear headphones for 
playback, the HRTF will be changed and you'll lose some binaural 
fidelity. And if you use in-ear monitors for playback, you'll be getting 
the resonance effect of the ear canal twice.



One of the deficiencies of in-ear binaural recordings is that they don't 
sound great when played back over speakers. In some ways, near-ear 
binaural recordings hit the sweet spot of playing back reasonably well 
on on-ear headphones and over speakers.



Hooke is a completely different product from 3DSoundlabs. They are 
utilizing spatialization software to convert stereo (and often times 
mono) audio to a proprietary format. 



They also can play back, with headtracking, ambisonic B-format 
recordings decoded accurately to binaural using large libraries of 
HRTFs.



I wish you and your new product well!




Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-25 Thread Anthony Mattana
Hey John!

I’m sorry for the delay. I’m new to this list and have been trying to figure 
out how to respond, I guess just replying to sursound@music.vt.edu” will 
suffice?

Right now our headsets are set to ship November of this year. I will have our 
first round of manufacturing samples ready this August, but I can’t confirm yet 
whether or not they’ll be ready for a record off. If you’re interested in test 
driving a beta test in August, I’d love to discuss further. Thanks!
Anthony
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-25 Thread Anthony Mattana
@Lenmoskowitz, thanks so much! 

With so much content being captured on Mobile these days (and subsequently 
being consumed on mobile) having a binaural mic that works direct with a 
smartphone is key. 

My goal is to allow consumers to be creative with sound, I’m a sound designer 
myself here in NYC and am always fighting for sound to be included in the 
conversation. 
I’m convinced this is because most everyone besides us doesn’t have any tools 
at their disposal to understand sound and thusly be creative with it. 

We have dimmers in our homes and auto stabilization on our phones. My 15 year 
old cousin could become very creative with a simple mic gain adjustment and 
binaural recording! I just want the world to care about sound. 


The CS-10EM is by far lower quality than the Hooke Verse. They’re playback 
quality doesn’t even come close to ours. And our recording quality is just as 
good if not better. (hear for yourself: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8EzI9ygpI 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8EzI9ygpI) With the Roland CS-10EM, the mic 
sits outside of the earlobe and doesn’t utilize the earlobe thoroughly when 
reflecting acoustic pressure waves. With the Rolands, I often feel like I’m 
listening to a stereo mic rather than a binaural mic because of this mic 
placement.

Hooke is a completely different product from 3DSoundlabs. They are utilizing 
spatialization software to convert stereo (and often times mono) audio to a 
proprietary format. Which is great and all, just not what we’re about. Hooke is 
about localization, utilizing the human ear to capture sound identically to the 
way we experience it. And we’re wireless. 

We are currently in talks with software spatialization companies regarding 
adding an algorithm that would allow Hooke to be used as a head tracking audio 
playback option for VR scenarios. And this could be added to your Hooke via a 
OTA software update months after you purchase the headphones :-)

We have a few products coming out soon that I think you will all be very 
excited about!

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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-25 Thread len moskowitz

Anthony Mattana anth...@hookeaudio.com wrote:


I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I'm looking for 
feedback on a product I've recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com 
)



I like your idea of adding bluetooth to the mix.


Long ago, in the late-60's or early 70's, when cassette Walkmen were 
king, Aiwa offered a low-cost combined stereo headphone/near-ear 
binaural microphone set. 



These days, Roland offers the CS-10EM 
(http://www.rolandus.com/products/cs-10em/) which is the same idea, but 
in-ear and with higher sound quality. Roland probably has the price edge 
over you. Your main edge over them is bluetooth. (Bluetooth comes with 
some negatives too - mainly sound quality.)



We've been offering very well-matched, compact, clip-on/in-ear binaural 
microphones since 1989, ranging in price from $75 to around $1000 per 
pair. I didn't see them mentioned in the video on your web site when you 
covered the binaural competition. We have some competitors (copy-cat and 
otherwise), some at low cost, and they weren't mentioned either.



Your system lacks head tracking, so the folks at 3D Sound Labs 
(http://3dsoundlabs.com/en/) have an edge over you in that feature. But 
they don't have microphones. And while their headtracker uses bluetooth, 
their playback is wired. I think that's probably a feature in their 
case, as they offer better sound quality than bluetooth can offer.



IMO, if you added the hardware for headtracking and an app that could do 
the math for playback, you'd have something very nice. Your retail price 
would probably rise though.





Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-25 Thread Jon Honeyball
me too if timing works — can bring ST350 and Sound Devices 788T




On 24/06/2015 00:05, Sursound on behalf of Emanuele Costantini 
sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu on behalf of lamacchiaco...@yahoo.it wrote:

Hi John,
if not busy working I could be interested in joining and I cut bring my 
own bluround technique and a brahma mic into the lot.

Thanks.

Emanuele

On 18/06/2015 18:49, John Leonard wrote:
 Anthony,

 I have a set on order (any update on shipping?) and I'm planning a massive 
 surround and binaural test later in the year, probably July, with Soundfield 
 ST450, TetraMic, CoreSound DPA4060 Binaural set, DPA 5100, Neumann KU 100 
 dummy head, Schoeps DMS, Neumann KM184d IRT cross and the new Sennheiser 
 synthesized surround system. I'll add the Hooke in if it arrives in time. 
 Should be fun. Anyone want to join in? I just need a lot more decent 
 pre-amps. (16 channels of Metric Halo ULN-8 available so far.)

 John


 On 18 Jun 2015, at 17:04, Anthony Mattana anth...@hookeaudio.com wrote:

 Hi Surround Mailing List!

 I recently joined your list and have been throughly enjoying the 
 conversations.

 I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I’m looking for feedback on 
 a product I’ve recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com 
 http://www.hookeaudio.com/)

 Hooke are a pair of bluetooth headphones with built in binaural microphones 
 that capture what we like to call Mobile 3D Audio.
 Hooke is both a playback and a capturing device capable of capturing 
 binaural audio on one’s smartphone.

 Is this something you think the list would be interested in?

 Thanks so much!
 Anthony Mattana

 Anthony Mattana
 Founder, Hooke
 www.hookeaudio.com



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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-24 Thread Emanuele Costantini

Hi John,
if not busy working I could be interested in joining and I cut bring my 
own bluround technique and a brahma mic into the lot.


Thanks.

Emanuele

On 18/06/2015 18:49, John Leonard wrote:

Anthony,

I have a set on order (any update on shipping?) and I'm planning a massive 
surround and binaural test later in the year, probably July, with Soundfield 
ST450, TetraMic, CoreSound DPA4060 Binaural set, DPA 5100, Neumann KU 100 dummy 
head, Schoeps DMS, Neumann KM184d IRT cross and the new Sennheiser synthesized 
surround system. I'll add the Hooke in if it arrives in time. Should be fun. 
Anyone want to join in? I just need a lot more decent pre-amps. (16 channels of 
Metric Halo ULN-8 available so far.)

John



On 18 Jun 2015, at 17:04, Anthony Mattana anth...@hookeaudio.com wrote:

Hi Surround Mailing List!

I recently joined your list and have been throughly enjoying the conversations.

I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I’m looking for feedback on a product 
I’ve recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com http://www.hookeaudio.com/)

Hooke are a pair of bluetooth headphones with built in binaural microphones 
that capture what we like to call Mobile 3D Audio.
Hooke is both a playback and a capturing device capable of capturing binaural 
audio on one’s smartphone.

Is this something you think the list would be interested in?

Thanks so much!
Anthony Mattana

Anthony Mattana
Founder, Hooke
www.hookeaudio.com



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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-19 Thread Tom Aspley
Hi john

I'm up for a bit of surround mic testing and comparison, I've got a Brahma 
ambisonic mic to add to the mix if you like - it would be very interesting to 
see how it compares to more expensive mics. 

What sort of venue are you looking for?

Tom





 On 18 Jun 2015, at 22:43, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.uk wrote:
 
 I’m based in London and currently looking for a suitable venue in which to 
 carry out the test, as well as deciding what material to use. I have access 
 to a bunch of decent musicians who may well be persuaded to turn up and play 
 for a bottle or two of wine and some cheesy comestibles, but it would be good 
 to have some other suggestions.
 
 All the best,
 
 John
 
 Please note new email address  direct line phone number
 email: j...@johnleonard.uk
 phone +44 (0)20 3286 5942
 
 
 On 18 Jun 2015, at 20:13, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 John, where about are you based?
 
 I'm sure some Huddersfield people would be happy, and we have 24 channels of 
 portable DAV pre-amps linked to RME converters.
 
 We also have the DPA 5.0 set with the decca tree.
 
 Contact me off-list if you need a contact
 
 pa
 
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[Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-18 Thread Anthony Mattana
Hi Surround Mailing List!

I recently joined your list and have been throughly enjoying the conversations.

I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I’m looking for feedback on a 
product I’ve recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com 
http://www.hookeaudio.com/)

Hooke are a pair of bluetooth headphones with built in binaural microphones 
that capture what we like to call Mobile 3D Audio.
Hooke is both a playback and a capturing device capable of capturing binaural 
audio on one’s smartphone.

Is this something you think the list would be interested in?

Thanks so much!
Anthony Mattana

Anthony Mattana
Founder, Hooke
www.hookeaudio.com



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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-18 Thread Pierre Alexandre Tremblay
John, where about are you based?

I'm sure some Huddersfield people would be happy, and we have 24 channels of 
portable DAV pre-amps linked to RME converters.

We also have the DPA 5.0 set with the decca tree.

Contact me off-list if you need a contact

pa

Le 18 juin 2015 à 19:49, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.uk a écrit :

 Anthony,
 
 I have a set on order (any update on shipping?) and I'm planning a massive 
 surround and binaural test later in the year, probably July, with Soundfield 
 ST450, TetraMic, CoreSound DPA4060 Binaural set, DPA 5100, Neumann KU 100 
 dummy head, Schoeps DMS, Neumann KM184d IRT cross and the new Sennheiser 
 synthesized surround system. I'll add the Hooke in if it arrives in time. 
 Should be fun. Anyone want to join in? I just need a lot more decent 
 pre-amps. (16 channels of Metric Halo ULN-8 available so far.)
 
 John
 
 
 On 18 Jun 2015, at 17:04, Anthony Mattana anth...@hookeaudio.com wrote:
 
 Hi Surround Mailing List!
 
 I recently joined your list and have been throughly enjoying the 
 conversations.
 
 I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I’m looking for feedback on 
 a product I’ve recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com 
 http://www.hookeaudio.com/)
 
 Hooke are a pair of bluetooth headphones with built in binaural microphones 
 that capture what we like to call Mobile 3D Audio.
 Hooke is both a playback and a capturing device capable of capturing 
 binaural audio on one’s smartphone.
 
 Is this something you think the list would be interested in?
 
 Thanks so much!
 Anthony Mattana
 
 Anthony Mattana
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-18 Thread John Leonard
Anthony,

I have a set on order (any update on shipping?) and I'm planning a massive 
surround and binaural test later in the year, probably July, with Soundfield 
ST450, TetraMic, CoreSound DPA4060 Binaural set, DPA 5100, Neumann KU 100 dummy 
head, Schoeps DMS, Neumann KM184d IRT cross and the new Sennheiser synthesized 
surround system. I'll add the Hooke in if it arrives in time. Should be fun. 
Anyone want to join in? I just need a lot more decent pre-amps. (16 channels of 
Metric Halo ULN-8 available so far.)

John


 On 18 Jun 2015, at 17:04, Anthony Mattana anth...@hookeaudio.com wrote:
 
 Hi Surround Mailing List!
 
 I recently joined your list and have been throughly enjoying the 
 conversations.
 
 I apologize if this is not the way to post, but I’m looking for feedback on a 
 product I’ve recently invented HOOKE (www.hookeaudio.com 
 http://www.hookeaudio.com/)
 
 Hooke are a pair of bluetooth headphones with built in binaural microphones 
 that capture what we like to call Mobile 3D Audio.
 Hooke is both a playback and a capturing device capable of capturing binaural 
 audio on one’s smartphone.
 
 Is this something you think the list would be interested in?
 
 Thanks so much!
 Anthony Mattana
 
 Anthony Mattana
 Founder, Hooke
 www.hookeaudio.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-18 Thread Tom Aspley
Hi john

I'm up for a bit of surround mic testing and comparison, I've got a Brahma 
ambisonic mic to add to the mix if you like - it would be very interesting to 
see how it compares to more expensive mics. 

What sort of venue are you looking for?

Tom





 On 18 Jun 2015, at 22:43, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.uk wrote:
 
 I’m based in London and currently looking for a suitable venue in which to 
 carry out the test, as well as deciding what material to use. I have access 
 to a bunch of decent musicians who may well be persuaded to turn up and play 
 for a bottle or two of wine and some cheesy comestibles, but it would be good 
 to have some other suggestions.
 
 All the best,
 
 John
 
 Please note new email address  direct line phone number
 email: j...@johnleonard.uk
 phone +44 (0)20 3286 5942
 
 
 On 18 Jun 2015, at 20:13, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 John, where about are you based?
 
 I'm sure some Huddersfield people would be happy, and we have 24 channels of 
 portable DAV pre-amps linked to RME converters.
 
 We also have the DPA 5.0 set with the decca tree.
 
 Contact me off-list if you need a contact
 
 pa
 
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Re: [Sursound] Hooke: First Bluetooth Binaural Microphone

2015-06-18 Thread John Leonard
I’m based in London and currently looking for a suitable venue in which to 
carry out the test, as well as deciding what material to use. I have access to 
a bunch of decent musicians who may well be persuaded to turn up and play for a 
bottle or two of wine and some cheesy comestibles, but it would be good to have 
some other suggestions.

All the best,

John

Please note new email address  direct line phone number
email: j...@johnleonard.uk
phone +44 (0)20 3286 5942


 On 18 Jun 2015, at 20:13, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 John, where about are you based?
 
 I'm sure some Huddersfield people would be happy, and we have 24 channels of 
 portable DAV pre-amps linked to RME converters.
 
 We also have the DPA 5.0 set with the decca tree.
 
 Contact me off-list if you need a contact
 
 pa
 
 Le 18 juin 2015 à 19:49, John Leonard j...@johnleonard.uk a écrit :
 

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