Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-08 Thread Augustine Leudar
I've sent a message to them - it appears the speaker isn't commercially
available, I'll report back if I get hold of one..

On 8 March 2018 at 10:06, Charlie Richmond  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Augustine Leudar <
> augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Charlie !
> > Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic
> beating
> > - but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D space - without
> > physically having to point the speaker - if so that would be quite a cool
> > advance,
> >
>
> ​It would indeed and I'm extremely sceptical that it will work successfully
> but please let us know when you get a chance!
>
> Cheers,
> Charlie​
>
>
>
> > best
> > Gus
> >
> > On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond 
> wrote:
> >
> > > These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
> > > sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
> > > stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of
> > the
> > > original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely
> hear
> > > the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when
> they
> > > are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you
> > can
> > > say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
> > > than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
> > > ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible
> > sound
> > > at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
> > > crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a
> > good
> > > trick when it is desired.
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <
> > > augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really
> want
> > > this
> > > > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
> > > > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
> > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-08 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:

> Hi Charlie !
> Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic beating
> - but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D space - without
> physically having to point the speaker - if so that would be quite a cool
> advance,
>

​It would indeed and I'm extremely sceptical that it will work successfully
but please let us know when you get a chance!

Cheers,
Charlie​



> best
> Gus
>
> On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond  wrote:
>
> > These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
> > sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
> > stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of
> the
> > original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely hear
> > the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when they
> > are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you
> can
> > say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
> > than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
> > ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible
> sound
> > at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
> > crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a
> good
> > trick when it is desired.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <
> > augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want
> > this
> > > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
> > >
> > > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
> > > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
> > >
> > > ?
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Augustine Leudar
I have one of those

On 8 March 2018 at 02:16, Len Moskowitz  wrote:

> https://www.holosonics.com
>
>
> Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Len Moskowitz

https://www.holosonics.com


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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Marc Lavallée

There's also this beam forming sound bar:
https://www.yarra3dx.com/
(does it work?)
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Le Thu, 8 Mar 2018 00:44:49 +
Augustine Leudar  a écrit:

>  From their website :
> 
> “The sound pressure at the ultrasonic focal points is sufficiently
> high to radiate audible sound based on the self-demodulation effect
> in air. Consequently, the ultrasonic focal points act as audible
> sound sources. This sound-point method enables us to control aerial
> audio distributions more flexibly and more precisely in comparison
> with conventional superdirectional (sound-beam) loudspeakers.”
> 
> On 8 March 2018 at 00:36, Augustine Leudar 
> wrote:
> 
> > also it seems to be suggesting it can project sounds to precise
> > points in space, at different distances from the speaker - in a way
> > that someone breaking the beam wouldnt necessarily hear it (as they
> > do in normal directional speaker sin museums etc) - thats the bit
> > Im skeptical about
> >
> > On 8 March 2018 at 00:24, Augustine Leudar
> >  wrote:
> >  
> >> Hi Charlie !
> >> Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic
> >> beating - but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D
> >> space - without physically having to point the speaker - if so
> >> that would be quite a cool advance,
> >> best
> >> Gus
> >>
> >> On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond 
> >> wrote: 
> >>> These have been around for a long time and they do work but there
> >>> is a sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's
> >>> really only stereo for the one person they are focused on but if
> >>> the 3d imaging of the
> >>> original source is reasonable then the one listener will
> >>> definitely hear the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular
> >>> loudspeakers when they are precisely in the originally prescribed
> >>> sweet spot.  Therefore, you can
> >>> say that they technically do what they say they can do but that
> >>> is less than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main
> >>> feature is that the ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do
> >>> which produces the audible sound
> >>> at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in
> >>> the crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity,
> >>> which is a good
> >>> trick when it is desired.
> >>>
> >>> Charlie
> >>>
> >>> Charlie
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <  
> >>> augustineleu...@gmail.com>  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>> > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really
> >>> > really want  
> >>> this  
> >>> > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
> >>> > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
> >>> >
> >>> > ?
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> >> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd,
> >> Belfast BT88LL
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Augustine Leudar
 From their website :

“The sound pressure at the ultrasonic focal points is sufficiently high to
radiate audible sound based on the self-demodulation effect in air.
Consequently, the ultrasonic focal points act as audible sound sources.
This sound-point method enables us to control aerial audio distributions
more flexibly and more precisely in comparison with conventional
superdirectional (sound-beam) loudspeakers.”

On 8 March 2018 at 00:36, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:

> also it seems to be suggesting it can project sounds to precise points in
> space, at different distances from the speaker - in a way that someone
> breaking the beam wouldnt necessarily hear it (as they do in normal
> directional speaker sin museums etc) - thats the bit Im skeptical about
>
> On 8 March 2018 at 00:24, Augustine Leudar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Charlie !
>> Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic
>> beating - but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D space -
>> without physically having to point the speaker - if so that would be quite
>> a cool advance,
>> best
>> Gus
>>
>> On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond  wrote:
>>
>>> These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
>>> sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
>>> stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of
>>> the
>>> original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely hear
>>> the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when they
>>> are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you
>>> can
>>> say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
>>> than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
>>> ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible
>>> sound
>>> at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
>>> crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a
>>> good
>>> trick when it is desired.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <
>>> augustineleu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want
>>> this
>>> > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
>>> >
>>> > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
>>> > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
>>> >
>>> > ?
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>>>
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>>> 
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>>> * facebook: charlie.richmond
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>> Company Number : NI635217
>> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd,
>> Belfast BT88LL
>>
>>
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>
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Augustine Leudar
also it seems to be suggesting it can project sounds to precise points in
space, at different distances from the speaker - in a way that someone
breaking the beam wouldnt necessarily hear it (as they do in normal
directional speaker sin museums etc) - thats the bit Im skeptical about

On 8 March 2018 at 00:24, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:

> Hi Charlie !
> Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic beating
> - but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D space - without
> physically having to point the speaker - if so that would be quite a cool
> advance,
> best
> Gus
>
> On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond  wrote:
>
>> These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
>> sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
>> stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of the
>> original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely hear
>> the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when they
>> are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you can
>> say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
>> than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
>> ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible
>> sound
>> at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
>> crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a good
>> trick when it is desired.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <
>> augustineleu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want
>> this
>> > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
>> >
>> > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
>> > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
>> >
>> > ?
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Augustine Leudar
Hi Charlie !
Im aware of course of directional loudspeakers that use ultrasonic beating
- but I understood this is able to position sounds in 3D space - without
physically having to point the speaker - if so that would be quite a cool
advance,
best
Gus

On 7 March 2018 at 23:51, Charlie Richmond  wrote:

> These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
> sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
> stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of the
> original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely hear
> the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when they
> are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you can
> say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
> than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
> ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible sound
> at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
> crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a good
> trick when it is desired.
>
> Charlie
>
> Charlie
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar <
> augustineleu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want
> this
> > to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
> >
> > http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
> > speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
> >
> > ?
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Re: [Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Charlie Richmond
These have been around for a long time and they do work but there is a
sharp sweet spot and no bass at all of course...  and it's really only
stereo for the one person they are focused on but if the 3d imaging of the
original source is reasonable then the one listener will definitely hear
the 3d imaging that one can hear with two regular loudspeakers when they
are precisely in the originally prescribed sweet spot.  Therefore, you can
say that they technically do what they say they can do but that is less
than regular a good stereo speaker pair.  The main feature is that the
ultrasonic beating that the two drivers do which produces the audible sound
at the crosspoint is only audible for the one listener exactly in the
crosspoint and not audible to anyone else in the vicinity, which is a good
trick when it is desired.

Charlie

Charlie

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:

> Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want this
> to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?
>
> http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-
> speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/
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[Sursound] Ultrasonic speaker that emits 3D sound ?

2018-03-07 Thread Augustine Leudar
Im desperately trying not to be skeptical because I really really want this
to be true - has anyone had a chance to test one out ?

http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-feed/ultrasonic-speaker-emits-3d-spatial-sound/

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