Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats andtheir viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-09 Thread chris

60 degrees seems excessive head movement for someone seated listening to
speakers..


Why ? It's a natural thing to do if there is any significant sound
from that direction. Why should being listening to speakers make
any difference ? I like to forget I'm listening to speakers.
And *if* I turn my head, for whatever reason, and the illusion
collapses, I'm not impressed... [Fons]


I'd take that a stage further - the ideal arrangement would allow you to 
move around within the sound field with complete freedom. You should indeed 
be unaware of where any speakers are - and sweet spots, and need to face 
rigidly in one direction, are anathema to the anyone but a dedicated (and 
perhaps blinkered?) enthusiast.


I've only ever had the chance to observe two demos (one Ambisonic, one WFS) 
which have been sufficiently impressive (with the programme material 
available) that the NON-cognoscenti recognised that they were in a space 
that wasn't the same as the physical room.


Chris Woolf 


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Re: [Sursound] the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats andtheir viability for actual 360 degree sound

2011-07-09 Thread dw

On 09/07/2011 10:03, ch...@chriswoolf.co.uk wrote:
60 degrees seems excessive head movement for someone seated 
listening to

speakers..


Why ? It's a natural thing to do if there is any significant sound
from that direction. Why should being listening to speakers make
any difference ? I like to forget I'm listening to speakers.
And *if* I turn my head, for whatever reason, and the illusion
collapses, I'm not impressed... [Fons]


I'd take that a stage further - the ideal arrangement would allow you 
to move around within the sound field with complete freedom. You 
should indeed be unaware of where any speakers are - and sweet 
spots, and need to face rigidly in one direction, are anathema to the 
anyone but a dedicated (and perhaps blinkered?) enthusiast.


Listen you! I am at home not Glastonbury. I know when a play a 
recording, or watch TV, that there is nothing actually there! If I hear 
a sound behind am I supposed to get up and walk around, or use a mirror, 
just to look at the  bloody walls. And don't confuse me with an audiophool.




I've only ever had the chance to observe two demos (one Ambisonic, one 
WFS) which have been sufficiently impressive (with the programme 
material available) that the NON-cognoscenti recognised that they were 
in a space that wasn't the same as the physical room.


Chris Woolf
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