RE: [biofuel] Question's
Martin, I found that the addition of 'MUCH' more vinegar with LOW agitation helped improve the return considerably. Be patient!! Mike -Original Message- From: Martin R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Question's Hi all can some one tell me how long one should mix the BD for ??? I mix for one hour also when working out the titration ,I was told that the PH should be between 8 and 9 is this correct ?? Most of my batches are around 8.3 to 8.7 PH the trouble that I had with the bubbles in my BD was with the PH of the mix being 8.35 PH and still got all the extra soap in my fuel . How low can you go on the PH scale for the oil mixture to react and form BD and what is the least amount of Methanol one can use , say in 100L. Many thanks Martin R. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Question's
vinegar? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: Mike Brownstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:45 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Question's Martin, I found that the addition of 'MUCH' more vinegar with LOW agitation helped improve the return considerably. Be patient!! Mike -Original Message- From: Martin R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Question's Hi all can some one tell me how long one should mix the BD for ??? I mix for one hour also when working out the titration ,I was told that the PH should be between 8 and 9 is this correct ?? Most of my batches are around 8.3 to 8.7 PH the trouble that I had with the bubbles in my BD was with the PH of the mix being 8.35 PH and still got all the extra soap in my fuel . How low can you go on the PH scale for the oil mixture to react and form BD and what is the least amount of Methanol one can use , say in 100L. Many thanks Martin R. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Question's
Yeah, 3 to 4 tablespoons per gallon of water recommended in Foolproof. I found more works better for me. Mike -Original Message- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:40 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Question's vinegar? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Mirror Site http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - Original Message - From: Mike Brownstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:45 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Question's Martin, I found that the addition of 'MUCH' more vinegar with LOW agitation helped improve the return considerably. Be patient!! Mike -Original Message- From: Martin R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Question's Hi all can some one tell me how long one should mix the BD for ??? I mix for one hour also when working out the titration ,I was told that the PH should be between 8 and 9 is this correct ?? Most of my batches are around 8.3 to 8.7 PH the trouble that I had with the bubbles in my BD was with the PH of the mix being 8.35 PH and still got all the extra soap in my fuel . How low can you go on the PH scale for the oil mixture to react and form BD and what is the least amount of Methanol one can use , say in 100L. Many thanks Martin R. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Latest edition of the NEO Ethanol Alert newsletter
how do i get to the news letter? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2001/10/20 Sat AM 12:12:18 EDT To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Latest edition of the NEO Ethanol Alert newsletter YES!! The latest issue of the Ethanol Alert has been posted and is ready for your review! This issue has news about 1. California officials' visit to ethanol plants in Nebraska 2. Ethanol Legislation passed in the House and Senate 3. Federal Agencies' switch to ethanol 4. States' ethanol news and information 5. Ethanol industry research and technological advances 6. Ethanol studies 7. Information on correspondence between the Governors' Ethanol Coalition and U.S. Leaders in the House and Senate 8. Stories of upcoming ethanol workshops, conferences and meetings. You have received this e-mail as a subscriber to the Nebraska Energy Department Ethanol Alert newsletter. If you have any changes to your email address or if you would like to remove your name from the mailing list, please visit our web site at: http://www.nol.org/home/NEO/subscribe.html Thank you! Hope you enjoy the newsletter! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Gas/diesel (was Re: Help needed)
Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking pretty seriously of running some tests on my '91 Toyota pickup with EFI to see if this is feasible with EFI. Seems like the EFI should do a good job of compensating, especially if you preheat the fuel. Hotrodders (just with gas on EFI engines) put in bigger injectors and bigger fuel pumps to increase atomization and provide more fuel, and the EFI deals with that, so this is another possibility. I'm also thinking pretty seriously about attempting to run my '87 Nissan pickup on ethanol. It has throttle body injection, but the EFI system does have an oxygen sensor. I haven't had time to mess with it, though. Does anyone have any insights on what the problems might be in attempting to run an EFI system built for gasoline on ethanol? Besides mixture concerns, of course. Alan. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.org Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste. www.distributed.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] RE: using an inverter
Anton Berteaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: older and cheaper inverters are square wave (super cheap) or, slighly better, modified sinewave (read almost square). almost all electrical devices run better on pure sinewave, and newer, nicer inverters are as good or better than grid power; the wave form is extremely high frequency steps that become a true sine wave after some filtration, and the frequency and voltage control is almost always better than the grid. If you really want to make sure all of the high frequency noise is gone you could run the output from the inverter through an appropriately sized choke coil. If you really want to get pedantic about a -=*PURE*=- sine wave you could install a ferroresonant transformer, which is a BIG resonant circuit built to resonate at 60hz. The computer lab at St. Petersburg College's St. Petersburg campus has one of these things. It does wonders for conditioning the power they get from Florida Flash and Flicker, but it must weigh 800 pounds. -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.org Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste. www.distributed.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Question's
Hi Mike I use about 1 L of vinegar per 100L of BD but only at the wash stage Do you mean to say add the vinegar to the BD --that has a high soap contend -- and then bubble wash with no water , BD and vinegar mixture together ??? Martin R. At 03:45 PM 20/10/01, you wrote: Martin, I found that the addition of 'MUCH' more vinegar with LOW agitation helped improve the return considerably. Be patient!! Mike -Original Message- From: Martin R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Question's Hi all can some one tell me how long one should mix the BD for ??? I mix for one hour also when working out the titration ,I was told that the PH should be between 8 and 9 is this correct ?? Most of my batches are around 8.3 to 8.7 PH the trouble that I had with the bubbles in my BD was with the PH of the mix being 8.35 PH and still got all the extra soap in my fuel . How low can you go on the PH scale for the oil mixture to react and form BD and what is the least amount of Methanol one can use , say in 100L. Many thanks Martin R. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT http://rd.yahoo.com/M=213858.1650662.3186813.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=763352/R=0/*http://www.classmates.com/index.tf?s=5085bdd84.jpg bddc0.jpg Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OLds based siesels
I never heard of or saw any that did. I put some 6.2's in as replacements though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: [biofuel] OLds based siesels Didn't the Oldsmobile 350 based diesel make into some of the GM and Chevy pickups? Doug To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban 300 hp
The critical components are Low compression Pistons, boost increased to peak around 20 LBS, and Highflow pump with matching Injectors. Penninsular Diesel builds them all the time for marine applications and I believe for anyone else who would want to buy them. I think they only build them for 6.5's though.. They might sell you parts though if you wanted to do it yourself. --Bryan - Original Message - From: L Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban 300 hp B And how would that be done? I would want low rpms. L -- On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:47:14 Bryan Fullerton wrote: Oh now not too bad. The torque makes up for it a bit, Stock horsepower for a 6.2 was like 140. Definitly not impressive but then alot of stock gas engines aren't all that great either which is why we tear them apart and beef them up.. You can do the same to a diesel If you have the mechanical and financial means. It is not hard to get the 6.2 and 6.5esp to the 300 Horsepower mark. --Bryan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban
Increasing breathing is great but if you combine more fuel with more Air then you get more power. -Bryan - Original Message - From: Olsen Eric (app1ebo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] 85 suburban You say its not hard. Improved breathing can produce more hp but what else can you do? Eric Oh now not too bad. The torque makes up for it a bit, Stock horsepower for a 6.2 was like 140. Definitly not impressive but then alot of stock gas engines aren't all that great either which is why we tear them apart and beef them up.. You can do the same to a diesel If you have the mechanical and financial means. It is not hard to get the 6.2 and 6.5esp to the 300 Horsepower mark. --Bryan Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban
If you turn it up till you're getting black smoke then you're wasting fuel. Turn up the boost from the Turbo a few lbs. then turn up the pump. If it starts producing Black Smoke then turn the pump back down. Running Bio-Diesel 100% of the time might let you keep the pump turned up a little further then you normally Could. Black Smoke is a health hazard and could cause you to fail your emissions test if you live in a county that requires it. Course if you are already failing that test then Biodiesel could easily help you pass it.. Your non-Turbo numbers are pretty close to the stock Turbo Numbers.. The reason is that GM only ran their boost to like 6-8 maybe 10lbs max. You wont come very close to 300 HP with a stock engine. On a NA Engine there is not alot you can really do to get alot of extra horses. Opening up the exhaust and things like that help but they really don't add too much. That website is the best on the net and I am a member. They have an article froma guy that took a 6.2 and drag raced with it. 600 some horsepower. He used an 9 liter injection pump out of an International and ran twin-Turbos with 55 Lbs of Boost. It is a pretty good article. Anybody that wants more power then the 6.2 but wants to stay diesel would probably find it easier to upgrade to a 6.5. Not a cheap move as most wrecking yards don't want to give you a dime for a diesel but are willing to rip you off if you are looking for one. One yard tried to sell me a old blown core for 1,000 bucks I found a complete longblock with only 30,000 miles on it for 700. That was 2 years ago. Good luck in your endeavors. --Bryan - Original Message - From: Craig Reece [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban Eric, I'll let Bryan give you a more definitive answer, but in the meantime, here's what I know about getting more power out of a diesel engine. If you monitor exhaust gas temps (EGT's) with a pyrometer, you can turn up the fueling on the injection pump, and this will produce more power. Doing this will often result in black smoke - but 100% biodiesel, a blend of 20% biodiesel and 80% dino-diesel, and straight vegetable oil will all smoke less than dinodiesel, I'm told. A larger diameter exhaust system will also help. Then there's propane injection which adds a lot of power - ATS (Advanced Turbo Systems) in Salt Lake is supposed to have a great kit. I'd check out the 6.2-6.5 and Duramax website - http://www.thedieselpage.com/ for info and suppliers of GM power stuff. Then there's the possibility of adding the 6.5 turbocharger - or buying a turboed 6.5. That engine will give gobs of power. I know that the non-turbo 6.5 has 290# of torque and 175 HP - so the turbo might approach 300 HP in stock form - and could certainly get there easily with a large intercooler and a free-flowing exhaust. Craig Reece Olsen Eric (app1ebo) wrote: You say its not hard. Improved breathing can produce more hp but what else can you do? Eric Oh now not too bad. The torque makes up for it a bit, Stock horsepower for a 6.2 was like 140. Definitly not impressive but then alot of stock gas engines aren't all that great either which is why we tear them apart and beef them up.. You can do the same to a diesel If you have the mechanical and financial means. It is not hard to get the 6.2 and 6.5esp to the 300 Horsepower mark. --Bryan Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
