Re: [Biofuel] Absolute ethanol
Dear Mr. Bob Allen: I agree 100% with you. Thanks again. Mr. F.j. Burgos - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Absolute ethanol Francisco, there is still some 4 or 5 % missing here. My only concern is that the missing per centage is water. It says .2% water but it doesn't add up. If the missing mass is water, it won't work. Water makes soap, not biofuel. And with ethanol it is very, very important. If the remainder is a hydrocarbon denaturant, then it should be no problem as small amounts of hydrocarbons don't interfere. My recommendation is try it on a small scale and see if it works. good luck francisco j burgos wrote: Dear Mr. Bob Allen: Here are label indications ETHANOL 95% ABSOLUT ETHYL ALCOHOL Minimum Assay: 95% (V/V) Boiling point 78.5 ºC (br 0.5ºC) Density: 1 L = 0.79 kg MAXIMIM LIMITS OF IMPURITIES Acidity (acetic acid) 0.001% Alkalinity (NH3)0.0001% Carboxilic compounds (CO) 0.5% Color (APHA) 10 Isopropyl alcohol0.003 Methanol0.01 Residue on evaporation 0.001% Substances reducing (09 5m0.0003% H2O 0.2% Al 0.5% Thanks, Mr. F.J. Burgos - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Absolute ethanol Francisco, what is the remaining 4.8%? usually absolute alcohol means 100%. Is this denatured alcohol, if so what is the denaturant? francisco j burgos wrote: Dear sirs. I have a bottle labeled as: absolute ethanol 95%, and among other things declares Water 0,2%. Would it be good enough for beef tallow transesterification?. I plan to dry tallow at 120ºC during 15 minutes; use 50ºC; molar ratio ethanol: tallow 6:1; turbulent mix; tallow has 0,25% FFA so I will use 0,60% of KOH; reaction time: 60 minutes. Do you think that I would be sucessful and obtain biodiesel ?. Your advise will be the most apreciated. Thanks in advance. Mr. F.J. Burgos. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters
Hopefully you got a straight answer by now! If you know what a sine wave is, then the modified one could be described as a series of varying amplitute pulses that approximate the shape of a sine wave. Mike Weaver wrote: Cheap junky inverter vs. good inverter, not to put too fine a point on it... Chris lloyd wrote: I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave. What do you mean by modified sine wave? Chris. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel
Unless I completely misunderstand some things, it should be very possible to get a good complete reaction in around 3 hrs. Using sulfuric, centrifuges, and mostly clean or pre-titrated wvo. Now, a better question in my mind is this: Who is going to make the bigger splash: those people inviting individuals to provide their own energy resource, small level entrepreneurs operating in a new and ever exanding niche market, or giant megaconglomerates with $250,000 injections of cash at a whim to create large processors. And a better question... What can we all do to keep it from being the last one? One of my favorite aspects of alternative, more eco-friendly energy creation is the availability of individuals to be self sufficient, taking the power OUT of the hands of large corporations most concerned with their bottom line. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters
Sorry, I didn't catch all the previous thread! Any of you have experience with just having a modified sine wave powering computer equipment? My immediate goal, if it doesn't cost too much!, is to have an inverter powered from the battery with a charger to the grid. Mainly to provide a kind of UPS. Eventually that will be expanded and hopefully get a solar panel to hook up. I'm on the road all the time and not home, so when we get an outage, I'd like to be able to keep the computer up. Mike Weaver wrote: I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave. If I had it to do over I would have bought the pure. Sten Armstrong wrote: we started with a modified sine wave inverter with our first stand alone solar power system. lost several appliances because of it, washing machines especially seemed to dislike it. our new sine wave inverter cost a lot more but it works better and we haven't lost any appliances. */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Also look up the difference between modified sine wave and pure sine wave inverters Ken Riznyk wrote: I would have to second the comments on the need for deep cycle batteries and not regular automotive batteries. You will also need to get a current inverter that is not made for use in an automobile. The inverters used with automobiles are designed to shut off while you still have enough current in your battery to start your car. This is a benefit if you are out camping and don't want to totally discharge your car battery, but not useful especially if you are lugging batteries back and forth to charge them up. Ken --- Darryl McMahon wrote: __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/au/local/*http://au.local.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Absolute ethanol
Dear Mr Ken Provost: No, it does smell gasoline in it. My results have been a disaster. Thanks, Mr. F.J. Burgos - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Absolute ethanol On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:18 PM, francisco j burgos wrote: ETHANOL 95% ABSOLUT ETHYL ALCOHOL Isopropyl alcohol 0.003 Methanol 0.01 H2O 0.2% Interesting -- It's possible you have absolute ethanol denatured with gasoline -- what's called "fuel grade" ethanol in US. If true, the odor of gasoline at 5% would be unmistakable. In any case, it should be fine for biodiesel. -K ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel
and other bad news: Forests paying the price for biofuelshttp://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news_rss20http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news_rss20 * 22 November 2005 * NewScientist.com news service * Fred PearceTHE drive for "green energy" in the developed world is having the perverseeffect of encouraging the destruction of tropical rainforests. From theorang-utan reserves of Borneo to the Brazilian Amazon, virgin forest isbeing razed to grow palm oil and soybeans to fuel cars and power stations inEurope and North America. And surging prices are likely to accelerate thedestructionThe rush to make energy from vegetable oils is being driven in part byEuropean Union laws requiring conventional fuels to be blended withbiofuels, and by subsidies equivalent to 20 pence a litre. Last week, theBritish government announced a target for biofuels to make up 5 per cent oftransport fuels by 2010. The aim is to help meet Kyoto protocol targets forreducing greenhouse-gas emissions.Rising demand for green energy has led to a surge in the international priceof palm oil, with potentially damaging consequences. "The expansion of palmoil production is one of the leading causes of rainforest destruction insouth-east Asia. It is one of the most environmentally damaging commoditieson the planet," says Simon Counsell, director of the UK-based RainforestFoundation. "Once again it appears we are trying to solve our environmentalproblems by dumping them in developing countries, where they havedevastating effects on local people."The main alternative to palm oil is soybean oil. But soya is the largestsingle cause of rainforest destruction in the Brazilian Amazon. Supportersof biofuels argue that they can be "carbon neutral" because the CO2 releasedfrom burning them is taken up again by the next crop. Interest is greatestfor diesel engines, which can run unmodified on vegetable oil, and inGermany bio-diesel production has doubled since 2003. There are also plansfor burning palm oil in power stations.Until recently, Europe's small market in biofuels was dominated byhome-grown rapeseed (canola) oil. But surging demand from the food markethas raised the price of rapeseed oil too. This has led fuel manufacturers toopt for palm and soya oil instead. Palm oil prices jumped 10 per cent inSeptember alone, and are predicted to rise 20 per cent next year, whileglobal demand for biofuels is now rising at 25 per cent a year.Roger Higman, of Friends of the Earth UK, which backs biofuels, says: "Weneed to ensure that the crops used to make the fuel have been grown in asustainable way or we will have rainforests cleared for palm oil plantationsto make bio-diesel."JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw an article in the Trader's Dispatch ( an agricultural paper printed in Valier Montana) that made me wonder who will win the race. First some background:The paper showed a vendor of one of these super duper biodiesel "automatic generators" showing a crowd that included the State Governor how fast and simple it is to make Biodiesel. Some rancher friends said he gave the Governor a gallon of Biodiesel. As I understand it this guy started with some WVO and in about 3 hours presented the Gov with a gallon of the good stuff. ( according to a friend of mine who goaded me about taking so long to produce my Bio) Anyway I explained that Good Bio needs some time to do right or else it is not worth putting in the tank. So, now I see these "fleecers" selling these new wonder super dupers and spreading their form of the gospel about Biodiesel while they sell these to the uninitiated public for 5-10K a pop.Now on the other hand we have the people that care about Biodiesel and what it takes to produce quality fuel-getting the word of truth out about the fuel.I now go back to my question, who will win the race to get the message out?Why does this seem so like the Current U.S. Administration vs the public? or do am I just to cynical?Jim___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel
Hello Jim See below... I saw an article in the Trader's Dispatch ( an agricultural paper printed in Valier Montana) that made me wonder who will win the race. First some background: The paper showed a vendor of one of these super duper biodiesel automatic generators showing a crowd that included the State Governor how fast and simple it is to make Biodiesel. Some rancher friends said he gave the Governor a gallon of Biodiesel. As I understand it this guy started with some WVO and in about 3 hours presented the Gov with a gallon of the good stuff. ( according to a friend of mine who goaded me about taking so long to produce my Bio) Anyway I explained that Good Bio needs some time to do right or else it is not worth putting in the tank. So, now I see these fleecers selling these new wonder super dupers and spreading their form of the gospel about Biodiesel while they sell these to the uninitiated public for 5-10K a pop. Now on the other hand we have the people that care about Biodiesel and what it takes to produce quality fuel-getting the word of truth out about the fuel. I now go back to my question, who will win the race to get the message out? Why does this seem so like the Current U.S. Administration vs the public? or do am I just to cynical? Jim http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#howmuch How much fuel can we grow? How much land will it take? Two very frequently asked questions. Frequently given answers: Not enough and Too much. Are they the right answers? Seeking to bridge the seemingly unbridgeable gap, there's widespread fascination with high-yielding oil crops, particularly oil-bearing algae, with oil palms running second. It seems obvious that the highest-yielding crops will produce the most energy from the least amount of land. But high yield is not the only factor in farming, and it may not always be the most important factor. It can make more sense for a farmer to grow a lower-yielding crop if it has more useful by-products or requires fewer inputs or less labour or it fixes more soil nitrogen for fertiliser or it fits a crop rotation better. Or if it fits an integrated on-farm biofuels production system better. The how-much-land estimates don't seem to include such things as integrated on-farm biofuels production systems. There are quite a lot of things they don't include. Sustainable farming Biofuels crops have to be grown, and there's a lot of common ground between growing sustainable fuel and growing food sustainably. Large-scale industrialised farms claim to be the most efficient. They concentrate on growing high-yielding monocrops (only one crop) by mass-production methods with a lot of inputs, and they use a lot of fossil-fuel to do it. A sustainable mixed farm can produce all its own fuel, with much or possibly all of it coming from crop by-products and waste products without any dedicated land use, and with very low input levels. That sheds a different light on how much land is needed to grow enough biofuels: less land with sustainable farming, which also has much lower fossil-fuels inputs. Sustainable farming is the fastest-growing agricultural sector in many countries, millions of farmers worldwide are turning to sustainable methods. Although sustainable farms require fewer inputs than conventional (factory-style) farms, yields and production are not lower. See for instance this message to the Biofuel mailing list from a large-scale organic farmer in the US, one of many: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg12485.html See: Small farms http://journeytoforever.org/farm.html The case for organics -- Scientific studies and reports http://journeytoforever.org/garden_organiccase.html City farming Looking at it from a different angle, according to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation more than 15% of the world's food supply was produced by city farms in 1993. That was enough food for 900 million people, produced with few inputs other than urban wastes, and with the use of no farming land at all. City farming is sweeping the world, in the industrialised countries as well as 3rd World countries. Many cities would have difficulty handling their wastes without the urban farms recycling them as livestock feed, compost and fertiliser. Such an approach suits localised biofuels production very well, and it integrates well with city farming. For example, only about 10% of the waste vegetable oil (WVO) produced in the industrialised countries is collected, billions of gallons a year aren't collected. Apart from the waste oil produced by restaurants and food outlets and food processors, an estimated 1.5 million US gallons of grease and oil goes into the sewage system every year for every one million people in some US metropolitan areas. Extended nation-wide that's hundreds of millions of gallons wasted every year. US restaurants produce about 300 million US gallons of WVO a year, much of which ends
Re: [Biofuel] reillo burner - was Re: Greenpeace: EU ready to lead etc.
Hi Damian Hi Keith, am working reillo burner and have report, Thankyou! what best way to send to yourself? mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] But please, Damian, there are better ways of posting a new message than hitting reply to a two-month old previous message, and if you're going to change the subject then please change the subject title too - very confusing to readers otherwise and it fouls up archives searches. Thanks Keith Best regards dD Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: http://www.ems.org/nws/2005/09/27/greenpeace_eu_re http://eu.greenpeace.org/downloads/energy/2050scenario050927.pdf Source: Greenpeace International Posted by: Greenpeace International - archive Posted on: Sep 27, 2005 @ 5:09 am Greenpeace: EU ready to lead the way to a clean energy future snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Testing for phosphorus content
Hello Jim I think they will work as they would with soil. I used one this Spring, You add the Soil to one line (Oil in this case) then water to the next Line Shake and dip the strip just like ph Strips. the water is to dissolve the phosphorus from the soil for testing. That's the bit I doubt, whether it'll dissolve phosphorus out of WVO as readily. The trouble comes if you want to get down to how much is present accurately. Are you trying to establish ballpark levels or are you looking to find out mg/L? Anything would be useful, including whether it's there at all or not. But the more accurate the better, just as long as it's still doable. If you want real accurate results I think you can use titration with reagents for phosphorus. I will have to do some checking on this though. That's interesting Jim, I'd be grateful if you would do some more checking when you have the time. Thanks Keith Jim Joe Street wrote: There are soil test kits available. I don't know if they would work for oil though but I think they are very low cost. Joe Keith Addison wrote: Hi all Does anyone know of a backyard-level test for phosphorus content in WVO? Thanks Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Big oil has crude designs on Iraq wealth - report
http://snipurl.com/k5yp Big oil has crude designs on Iraq wealth - report By Reuters 11/22/05 -- -- LONDON (Reuters) - Big oil firms may rob Iraq of billions and grab control of its oilfields unless ordinary Iraqis can have a greater say in how their country's riches are tapped, U.S. and British campaigners said on Tuesday. Big oil is being lured by the Production Sharing Agreement (PSA), promoted by Washington and London, which gives them huge returns on investment, but deprives Iraq of up to $194 billion (113 billion pounds), according to Crude Designs: The rip-off of Iraq's oil wealth. Under the influence of the U.S. and UK, powerful politicians and technocrats in the Iraqi oil ministry are pushing to hand all Iraq's undeveloped fields to multinational oil companies, to be developed under production sharing agreements, said Greg Muttitt, the report's author. Muttitt is an analyst with PLATFORM, a London-based charity focussed on the social and environmental impact of oil. A push for energy security by the United States and Britain is a driver behind this commercial approach, said the report, backed by charities and thinktanks including War on Want, Global Policy Forum and Institute for Policy Studies. But many argue PSAs, the most sought-after contract in the oil industry, will ensure swift development of Iraq's reserves, the world's third biggest after Saudi Arabia and Iran, speed up reconstruction and hasten the return of cash to the country. They say contracts of this nature are the only way to attract foreign expertise in view of the country's instability. In order to make major quantum increases in oil, we need to have production-sharing agreements, but that has to wait until after the formation of parliament, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Chalabi said recently. A new parliament is due to be voted on in December. Iraq's most valued oilfields will require some $20 billion to expand their capacity towards a six million barrels per day (bpd) target. But repeated sabotage has prevented Iraq meeting its immediate aim of three million bpd, last seen in 1990. Output has been stuck near two million bpd. For international oilmen, deprived access to vast Iraqi reserves for decades, long-term PSAs offer the ability to book reserves, protection from future adverse legislation and healthy profits during low oil prices. If only the contracts were as lucrative for average Iraqis, still suspicious that the oil was the motive behind the U.S.-led war in 2003, said the report. The massive loss from PSAs would amount to $2,800 to $7,400 per Iraqi adult over the 30-year lifespan of a typical deal, it said. By comparison, Iraqi GDP is now only $2,100 per person. The report recommended that Baghdad use direct investment from the government budget, borrow from banks or multilateral agencies or secure foreign investment using more flexible and equitable contracts. © Reuters 2005. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] U.N.: More Hungry in Africa Than in '90s
http://snipurl.com/k5av The Joplin Globe - Online Edition Nov 22, 8:13 PM EST U.N.: More Hungry in Africa Than in '90s By MARIA SANMINIATELLI Associated Press Writer ROME (AP) -- Hunger and malnutrition kill nearly 6 million children a year, and more people are malnourished in sub-Saharan Africa this decade than in the 1990s, according to a U.N. report released Tuesday. Many of the children die from diseases that are treatable, including diarrhea, pneumonia, malaria and measles, said the report by the Rome-based U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization. In sub-Saharan Africa, the number of malnourished people grew to 203.5 million people in 2000-02 from 170.4 million 10 years earlier, the report states, noting that hunger and malnutrition are among the main causes of poverty, illiteracy, disease and deaths in developing countries. The U.N. food agency said the goal of reducing the number of the world's hungry by half by the year 2015, set by the World Food Summit in 1996 and reinforced by the Millennium Development Goals in 2000, remains distant but attainable. If each of the developing regions continues to reduce hunger at the current pace, only South America and the Caribbean will reach the Millennium Development Goal target, Jacques Diouf, the agency's director-general, wrote in the report, the agency's annual update on world hunger. The food agency said the Asia-Pacific region also has a good chance of reaching the targets if it can accelerate progress slightly over the next few years. Most, if not all of the ... targets can be reached, but only if efforts are redoubled and refocused, Diouf said. To bring the number of hungry people down, priority must be given to rural areas and to agriculture as the mainstay of rural livelihoods. U.S. Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns, on a visit to Rome to meet with FAO and Italian officials, said Tuesday that free trade and economic growth were key to fighting hunger. We have world goals in terms of reducing hunger, and in terms of long-term prospects, it really does involve the ability of countries to engage in economic relationships with each other, he said. We want economies around the world to improve, that is really what's going to provide the long term stable base upon which people are let out of poverty. Diseases such as AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis, which kill more than 6 million people a year, hit the hungry and poor the hardest, according to the report's findings. Millions of families are pushed deeper into poverty and hunger by the illness and death of breadwinners, the cost of health care, paying for funerals and support of orphans. About 75 percent of the world's hungry and poor live in rural areas in poor countries, the report found. © 2005 The Associated Press. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Venezuela to sell heating oil in U.S. at discount prices
http://snipurl.com/k5z2 Times Transcript | International Business As published on page B3 on November 21, 2005 Venezuela to sell heating oil in U.S. at discount prices CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuela will soon begin selling heating oil to the poor at discount prices to communities in Boston and New York City, following up on a promise by President Hugo Chavez to help poor Americans cut energy costs, Venezuela's state oil company announced. Citgo, a subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, will offer fuel at discounted rates in Boston as early as this week, said a statement posted Friday on the company's website. The first phase of the program, in Boston, will offer up to 4.5 million litres of heating oil at accessible rates, representing $10 million US in savings for those sectors, the statement read. Heating oil will be sold later in the Bronx, one of New York's poorest boroughs. Chavez visited the Bronx in September and two weeks later he said Citgo was willing to provide oil to communities there. Citgo said the distribution of discounted heating oil will be organized with the help of local non-profit organizations. Chavez often blames the plight of the poor on unbridled capitalism and the former paratroop commander strongly criticizes the administration of President George W. Bush for failing to reduce poverty in the United States. Although tension between the United States and Venezuela has increased since Chavez was elected in 1998, his oil-rich South American country remains a major supplier of fuel to the United States. Chavez offered cheap heating oil for poor U.S. communities in August following a meeting in Caracas with U.S. civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson. Venezuela, which has the largest oil and natural gas reserves outside the Middle East, is the world's fifth most important oil exporter and a founding member of OPEC. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] How a White House Cabal Hijacked U.S. Foreign Policy
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1.htm Explosive Interview: Colin Powell's Former Chief of Staff Col. Wilkerson on Prewar Intel, Murder and Torture How a White House Cabal Hijacked U.S. Foreign Policy Broadcast - 11/22/05 In the interview, Wilkerson discusses what he calls a White House cabal, led by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld; pre-war intelligence and Powell's February 2003 speech before the United Nations; the memory lapse by Gen. Peter Pace, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and much more. TRANSCRIPT AMY GOODMAN: Vice President Dick Cheney launched a fresh attack Monday on critics of the Iraq war. In a speech at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., Cheney again denied the Bush administration manipulated prewar intelligence to build support for the invasion. VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: The flaws in the intelligence are plain enough in hindsight, but any suggestion that prewar information was distorted, hyped or fabricated by the leader of the nation is utterly false. Senator John McCain put it best: It is a lie to say that the President lied to the American people. American soldiers and marines serving in Iraq go out every day into some of the most dangerous and unpredictable conditions. Meanwhile, back in the United States, a few politicians are suggesting these brave Americans were sent into battle for a deliberate falsehood. This is revisionism of the most corrupt and shameless variety. It has no place anywhere in American politics, much less in the United States Senate. AMY GOODMAN: Cheney's public appearance Monday was his second in less than a week and the latest in a series over the past ten days by senior officials to rebut growing charges that the administration manipulated prewar intelligence to counter growing pressure in Congress to withdraw troops from Iraq. Today, we're joined by a former senior member of the Bush administration, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. He served as Chief of Staff to then Secretary of State Colin Powell from 2002 to 2005. Last month, he caused a stir when he made a speech at the New America Foundation. COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON: What I saw was a cabal between the Vice President of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made. AMY GOODMAN: Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson joins us today from a studio in Washington, D.C. Welcome to Democracy Now! COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON: Thank you very much. Glad to be here. AMY GOODMAN: It's good to have you with us. Well, why don't you lay it out? Explain what exactly you see happening right now. COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON: Well, I listened to the comments that you were playing from the Vice President with great interest. I read some of them this morning in the paper, but my concern as a former member of the Defense Department, a soldier for 31 years, is with the difficulties that this administration has put in the face of our brave men and women in Iraq today, and to a certain extent in Afghanistan and in other places where they're stationed around the world. And the difficulties I refer to come from the two decisions that I had the most insight into that were made in this more or less alternative decision-making process. And those two decisions were the inept and incompetent planning for post-invasion Iraq, and the some two years after that in which we have been involved in essentially a pickup game, an ad hoc approach, and the decision that came also from that alternative decision-making process to depart from the Geneva Conventions and from international law, in general, dealing with treatment of detainees, which has rebounded to America's discredit around the world, hurt our credibility and made the job of our brave men and women in the field even more difficult. AMY GOODMAN: This issue of torture goes back, even before the pictures that we saw in April of 2004 of the prisoners that were tortured at Abu Ghraib. You were there when the discussions were taking place. What was your position? What exactly did you hear? COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON: Well, it's not so much discussions as the fact that just prior to those photographs going public, the photographs of Abu Ghraib, the Secretary of State walked through my door into my office and said, -- we had adjoining offices -- and he said, I want you to get all of the paperwork you can, get everything together, establish an audit trail and a chronology and so forth. I want to know how we got to where we are. And over the course of the next few months, I got my hands on every piece of paper that I could, open source, classified, sensitive and otherwise, and I built for myself a chronology, an audit trail, and gained profound insights into how we got to where we were. And what I found was that the statutory process, that is, the process in which the
[Biofuel] Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2.htm Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally Madness of war memo By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines 11/22/05 The Mirror -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a Top Secret No 10 memo reveals. But he was talked out of it at a White House summit by Tony Blair, who said it would provoke a worldwide backlash. A source said: There's no doubt what Bush wanted, and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it. Al-Jazeera is accused by the US of fuelling the Iraqi insurgency. The attack would have led to a massacre of innocents on the territory of a key ally, enraged the Middle East and almost certainly have sparked bloody retaliation. A source said last night: The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush. He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem. There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it. A Government official suggested that the Bush threat had been humorous, not serious. But another source declared: Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men. Yesterday former Labour Defence Minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the five-page transcript of the two leaders' conversation. He said: It's frightening to think that such a powerful man as Bush can propose such cavalier actions. I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published. It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were the architects of war. Bush disclosed his plan to target al-Jazeera, a civilian station with a huge Mid-East following, at a White House face-to-face with Mr Blair on April 16 last year. At the time, the US was launching an all-out assault on insurgents in the Iraqi town of Fallujah. Al-Jazeera infuriated Washington and London by reporting from behind rebel lines and broadcasting pictures of dead soldiers, private contractors and Iraqi victims. The station, watched by millions, has also been used by bin Laden and al-Qaeda to broadcast atrocities and to threaten the West. Al-Jazeera's HQ is in the business district of Qatar's capital, Doha. Its single-storey buildings would have made an easy target for bombers. As it is sited away from residential areas, and more than 10 miles from the US's desert base in Qatar, there would have been no danger of collateral damage. Dozens of al-Jazeera staff at the HQ are not, as many believe, Islamic fanatics. Instead, most are respected and highly trained technicians and journalists. To have wiped them out would have been equivalent to bombing the BBC in London and the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq War itself. The No 10 memo now raises fresh doubts over US claims that previous attacks against al-Jazeera staff were military errors. In 2001 the station's Kabul office was knocked out by two smart bombs. In 2003, al-Jazeera reporter Tareq Ayyoub was killed in a US missile strike on the station's Baghdad centre. The memo, which also included details of troop deployments, turned up in May last year at the Northampton constituency office of then Labour MP Tony Clarke. Cabinet Office civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of passing it to Leo O'Connor, 42, who used to work for Mr Clarke. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street court next week. Mr Clarke, who lost at the election, returned the memo to No 10. He said Mr O'Connor had behaved perfectly correctly. Neither Mr O'Connor or Mr Keogh were available. No 10 did not comment. Copyright - The Mirror ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] OT Amazing animation
http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1132485933/RockFishA bit off topic but amazing enough that I wanted you to know about it. Pixar watch out!I hope we see more of them soonKirk Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters
Peter, Since everything inside your computer is DC, you might think about changing the power supply on it to DC/DC rather than the AC/DC power supply you have now. You would need a constant DC source, but would eliminate the inverter and the losses going from DC to AC to DC. They are available on Ebay and I found some on google as well. Many are designed to run on 12 Volt power to run computers in cars.On 11/22/05, Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sorry, I didn't catch all the previous thread!Any of you have experience with just having a modified sine wave powering computer equipment?My immediate goal, if it doesn't cost too much!, is to have an inverterpowered from the battery with a charger to the grid. Mainly to provide akind of UPS. Eventually that will be expanded and hopefully get a solar panel to hook up.I'm on the road all the time and not home, so when we get an outage, I'dlike to be able to keep the computer up.Mike Weaver wrote: I'm not off grid but use modified sine wave.If I had it to do over I would have bought the pure. Sten Armstrong wrote:we started with a modified sine wave inverter with our first standalone solar power system.lost several appliances because of it, washing machines especially seemed to dislike it.our new sine waveinverter cost a lot more but it works better and we haven't lost anyappliances.*/Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:Also look up the difference between modified sine wave and pure sinewave invertersKen Riznyk wrote: I would have to second the comments on the need fordeep cycle batteries and not regular automotivebatteries. You will also need to get a currentinverter that is not made for use in an automobile. The inverters used with automobiles are designed toshut off while you still have enough current in yourbattery to start your car. This is a benefit if youare out camping and don't want to totally discharge your car battery, but not useful especially if you arelugging batteries back and forth to charge them up.Ken--- Darryl McMahon wrote: __Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Do you Yahoo!?Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Searchhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/au/local/*http://au.local.yahoo.com ___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/-- Thanks,PCHe's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. - Abba Eban ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally
Lovely. Absolutely lovely. If this proves to be true, then we unequivocally have a mad man loose in the White House who shouldn't be left alone to his own thoughts for one moment for the duration of his term of office. That or stack it on the list of evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, for his impeachement. Todd Swearingen http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2.htm Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally Madness of war memo By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines 11/22/05 The Mirror -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a Top Secret No 10 memo reveals. But he was talked out of it at a White House summit by Tony Blair, who said it would provoke a worldwide backlash. A source said: There's no doubt what Bush wanted, and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it. Al-Jazeera is accused by the US of fuelling the Iraqi insurgency. The attack would have led to a massacre of innocents on the territory of a key ally, enraged the Middle East and almost certainly have sparked bloody retaliation. A source said last night: The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush. He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem. There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it. A Government official suggested that the Bush threat had been humorous, not serious. But another source declared: Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men. Yesterday former Labour Defence Minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the five-page transcript of the two leaders' conversation. He said: It's frightening to think that such a powerful man as Bush can propose such cavalier actions. I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published. It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were the architects of war. Bush disclosed his plan to target al-Jazeera, a civilian station with a huge Mid-East following, at a White House face-to-face with Mr Blair on April 16 last year. At the time, the US was launching an all-out assault on insurgents in the Iraqi town of Fallujah. Al-Jazeera infuriated Washington and London by reporting from behind rebel lines and broadcasting pictures of dead soldiers, private contractors and Iraqi victims. The station, watched by millions, has also been used by bin Laden and al-Qaeda to broadcast atrocities and to threaten the West. Al-Jazeera's HQ is in the business district of Qatar's capital, Doha. Its single-storey buildings would have made an easy target for bombers. As it is sited away from residential areas, and more than 10 miles from the US's desert base in Qatar, there would have been no danger of collateral damage. Dozens of al-Jazeera staff at the HQ are not, as many believe, Islamic fanatics. Instead, most are respected and highly trained technicians and journalists. To have wiped them out would have been equivalent to bombing the BBC in London and the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq War itself. The No 10 memo now raises fresh doubts over US claims that previous attacks against al-Jazeera staff were military errors. In 2001 the station's Kabul office was knocked out by two smart bombs. In 2003, al-Jazeera reporter Tareq Ayyoub was killed in a US missile strike on the station's Baghdad centre. The memo, which also included details of troop deployments, turned up in May last year at the Northampton constituency office of then Labour MP Tony Clarke. Cabinet Office civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of passing it to Leo O'Connor, 42, who used to work for Mr Clarke. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street court next week. Mr Clarke, who lost at the election, returned the memo to No 10. He said Mr O'Connor had behaved perfectly correctly. Neither Mr O'Connor or Mr Keogh were available. No 10 did not comment. Copyright - The Mirror ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel
Sten Armstrong wrote: and other bad news: Forests paying the price for biofuels http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news * 22 November 2005 * NewScientist.com news service * Fred Pearce THE drive for green energy in the developed world is having the perverse effect of encouraging the destruction of tropical rainforests. From the orang-utan reserves of Borneo to the Brazilian Amazon, virgin forest is being razed to grow palm oil and soybeans to fuel cars and power stations in Europe and North America. And surging prices are likely to accelerate the destruction The rush to make energy from vegetable oils is being driven in part by European Union laws requiring conventional fuels to be blended with biofuels, and by subsidies equivalent to 20 pence a litre. Last week, the British government announced a target for biofuels to make up 5 per cent of transport fuels by 2010. The aim is to help meet Kyoto protocol targets for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions. Rising demand for green energy has led to a surge in the international price of palm oil, with potentially damaging consequences. The expansion of palm oil production is one of the leading causes of rainforest destruction in south-east Asia. It is one of the most environmentally damaging commodities on the planet, says Simon Counsell, director of the UK-based Rainforest Foundation. Once again it appears we are trying to solve our environmental problems by dumping them in developing countries, where they have devastating effects on local people. The main alternative to palm oil is soybean oil. But soya is the largest single cause of rainforest destruction in the Brazilian Amazon. Supporters of biofuels argue that they can be carbon neutral because the CO2 released from burning them is taken up again by the next crop. Interest is greatest for diesel engines, which can run unmodified on vegetable oil, and in Germany bio-diesel production has doubled since 2003. There are also plans for burning palm oil in power stations. Until recently, Europe's small market in biofuels was dominated by home-grown rapeseed (canola) oil. But surging demand from the food market has raised the price of rapeseed oil too. This has led fuel manufacturers to opt for palm and soya oil instead. Palm oil prices jumped 10 per cent in September alone, and are predicted to rise 2! 0 per cent next year, while global demand for biofuels is now rising at 25 per cent a year. Roger Higman, of Friends of the Earth UK, which backs biofuels, says: We need to ensure that the crops used to make the fuel have been grown in a sustainable way or we will have rainforests cleared for palm oil plantations to make bio-diesel. Very interesting. Compare the story you forwarded to this one: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200511\NAT20051122a.html Specifically, take note of this part: I am glad that Friends of the Earth is finally recognizing the environmental threat of expanding bio-fuels. That may be the first time that I have ever heard the greens give bio-fuels the scrutiny it deserves, said Dennis Avery of the Hudson Institute's Center for Global Food Issues. Avery described his group as being concerned about feeding as many possible people from as little land as possible in order to save more room for nature. Good farmland is the scarcest resource on this planet and we are already farming 37 percent of Earth's land area to get today's food supply, Avery told Cybercast News Service. Avery slammed world governments for attempting to increase mandates for bio-fuel as an alternative to petroleum. Now, suddenly governments are saying, 'Oh we should have lots of bio-fuel so that we don't have to get oil out of the ground,' but we would have to clear 16 million square miles of forest on the planet if we wanted to make any dent in the demand for petroleum, Avery said. He added that the green movement and world governments need to wake up to the fact that bio-fuels are not a viable energy alternative. Now consider who the Hudson Institute is. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hudson_Institute While I agree that biofuels need to be done sustainably in the long term (as does virtually everyone on this list I'd guess), but this series of articles smells like astroturfing to me. jh ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally
And I feel sorry for anyone who believes this.Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2.htmExclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab AllyMadness of war memoBy Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines11/22/05 "The Mirror" -- -- PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo reveals.But he was talked out of it at a White House summit by Tony Blair, who said it would provoke a worldwide backlash.A source said: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted, and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it." Al-Jazeera is accused by the US of fuelling the Iraqi insurgency.The attack would have led to a massacre of innocents on the territory of a key ally, enraged the Middle East and almost certainly have sparked bloody retaliation.A source said last night: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush."He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere. Blair replied that would cause a big problem."There's no doubt what Bush wanted to do - and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it."A Government official suggested that the Bush threat had been "humorous, not serious".But another source declared: "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair. That much is absolutely clear from the language used by both men."Yesterday former Labour Defence Minister Peter Kilfoyle challenged Downing Street to publish the five-page transcript of the two leaders' conversation. He said: "It's frightening to think that such a powerful man as Bush can propose such cavalier actions."I hope the Prime Minister insists this memo be published. It gives an insight into the mindset of those who were the architects of war."Bush disclosed his plan to target al-Jazeera, a civilian station with a huge Mid-East following, at a White House face-to-face with Mr Blair on April 16 last year.At the time, the US was launching an all-out assault on insurgents in the Iraqi town of Fallujah.Al-Jazeera infuriated Washington and London by reporting from behind rebel lines and broadcasting pictures of dead soldiers, private contractors and Iraqi victims.The station, watched by millions, has also been used by bin Laden and al-Qaeda to broadcast atrocities and to threaten the West.Al-Jazeera's HQ is in the business district of Qatar's capital, Doha.Its single-storey buildings would have made an easy target for bombers. As it is sited away from residential areas, and more than 10 miles from the US's desert base in Qatar, there would have been no danger of "collateral damage".Dozens of al-Jazeera staff at the HQ are not, as many believe, Islamic fanatics. Instead, most are respected and highly trained technicians and journalists.To have wiped them out would have been equivalent to bombing the BBC in London and the most spectacular foreign policy disaster since the Iraq War itself.The No 10 memo now raises fresh doubts over US claims that previous attacks against al-Jazeera staff were military errors.In 2001 the station's Kabul office was knocked out by two "smart" bombs. In 2003, al-Jazeera reporter Tareq Ayyoub was killed in a US missile strike on the station's Baghdad centre.The memo, which also included details of troop deployments, turned up in May last year at the Northampton constituency office of then Labour MP Tony Clarke.Cabinet Office civil servant David Keogh, 49, is accused under the Official Secrets Act of passing it to Leo O'Connor, 42, who used to work for Mr Clarke. Both are bailed to appear at Bow Street court next week.Mr Clarke, who lost at the election, returned the memo to No 10.He said Mr O'Connor had behaved "perfectly correctly".Neither Mr O'Connor or Mr Keogh were available. No 10 did not comment.Copyright - The Mirror ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters
On 22-Nov-05, at 5:47 PM, Peter Martin wrote: Sorry, I didn't catch all the previous thread! Any of you have experience with just having a modified sine wave powering computer equipment? Anything that uses a switching power supply should be OK, because the first thing it does with the incoming AC is to convert it to DC. CRT monitors and laser printers might have problems. Amplified speakers or other audio equipment will probably not work well. Modified sine wave is a marketing term. It's actually a modified square wave; the unit steps the battery up to a higher DC voltage V and then switches the output between 3 states: +V, 0, -V. This is easier and cheaper than generating something that actually looks like a sine wave. The RMS (= average for a non-EE) value of the voltage is the same as the sine wave it is simulating, but the peak value is different and there will be strong harmonic frequencies present (as others have mentioned). ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] How a White House Cabal Hijacked U.S. Foreign
Keith- It does my heart good seeing you referring to Amy Goodman, and her excellent reporting on Democracy Now. That entire transcript can be read, or streamed at www.democracynow.org along with additional good info. By the way, Today Maxine Waters discussed how the Col. Was forgetful regarding the facts surrounding Aristide's ouster from Haiti. Why in world did our government not protect the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT of that country? Seems to me that would be the cornerstone of democracy, and this president should have fought to defend THAT, instead of delivering our democracy via bombers and US Marines. Happy Thanksgiving. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] THE RISE OF AMERICA'S NEW ENEMY
Hi All, Forget Iraq, take a look at what John Pilger sees happening justsouth of the border. Regards, Bob. THE RISE OF AMERICA'S NEW ENEMY I was dropped at Paradiso, the last middle-class area before barrio La Vega, which spills into a ravine as if by the force of gravity. Storms were forecast, and people were anxious, remembering the mudslides that took 20,000 lives. "Why are you here?" asked the man sitting opposite me in the packed jeep-bus that chugged up the hill. Like so many in Latin America, he appeared old, but wasn't. Without waiting for my answer, he listed why he supported President Chavez: schools, clinics, affordable food, "our constitution, our democracy" and "for the first time, the oil money is going to us." I asked him if he belonged to the MRV, Chavez's party, "No, I've never been in a political party; I can only tell you how my life has been changed, as I never dreamt." It is raw witness like this, which I have heard over and over again in Venezuela, that smashes the one-way mirror between the west and a continent that is rising. By rising, I mean the phenomenon of millions of people stirring once again, "like lions after slumber/In unvanquishable number", wrote the poet Shelley in The Mask of Anarchy. This is not romantic; an epic is unfolding in Latin America that demands our attention beyond the stereotypes and clich?s that diminish whole societies to their degree of exploitation and expendability. To the man in the bus, and to Beatrice whose children are being immunised and taught history, art and music for the first time, and Celedonia, in her seventies, reading and writing for the first time, and Jose whose life was saved by a doctor in the middle of the night, the first doctor he had ever seen, Hugo Chavez is neither a "firebrand" nor an "autocrat" but a humanitarian and a democrat who commands almost two thirds of the popular vote, accredited by victories in no less than nine elections. Compare that with the fifth of the British electorate that re-installed Blair, an authentic autocrat. Ch?vez and the rise of popular social movements, from Colombia down to Argentina, represent bloodless, radical change across the continent, inspired by the great independence struggles that began with SimOn Bol?var, born in Venezuela, who brought the ideas of the French Revolution to societies cowed by Spanish absolutism. Bol?var, like Che Guevara in the 1960s and Chavez today, understood the new colonial master to the north. "The USA," he said in 1819, "appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." At the Summit of the Americas in Quebec City in 2001, George W Bush announced the latest misery in the name of liberty in the form of a Free Trade Area of the Americas treaty. This would allow the United States to impose its ideological "market", neo-liberalism, finally on all of Latin America. It was the natural successor to Bill Clinton's North American Free Trade Agreement, which has turned Mexico into an American sweatshop. Bush boasted it would be law by 2005. On 5 November, Bush arrived at the 2005 summit in Mar del Plata, Argentina, to be told his FTAA was not even on the agenda. Among the 34 heads of state were new, uncompliant faces and behind all of them were populations no longer willing to accept US-backed business tyrannies. Never before have Latin American governments had to consult their people on pseudo-agreements of this kind; but now they must. In Bolivia, in the past five years, social movements have got rid of governments and foreign corporations alike, such as the tentacular Bechtel, which sought to impose what people call total locura capitalista - total capitalist folly - the privatising of almost everything, especially natural gas and water. Following Pinochet's Chile, Bolivia was to be a neo-liberal laboratory. The poorest of the poor were charged up to two-thirds of their pittance-income even for rain-water. Standing in the bleak, freezing, cobble-stoned streets of El Alto, 14,000 feet up in the Andes, or sitting in the breeze-block homes of former miners and campesinos driven off their land, I have had political discussions of a kind seldom ignited in Britain and the US. They are direct and eloquent. "Why are we so poor," they say, "when our country is so rich? Why do governments lie to us and represent outside powers?" They refer to 500 years of conquest as if it is a living presence, which it is, tracing a journey from the Spanish plunder of Cerro Rico, a hill of silver mined by indigenous slave labour and which underwrote the Spanish Empire for three centuries. When the silver was gone, there was tin, and when the mines were privatised in the 1970s at the behest of the IMF, tin collapsed, along with 30,000 jobs. When the coca leaf replaced it - in Bolivia, chewing it in curbs hunger - the Bolivian army, coerced by the US, began destroying the coca crops
[Biofuel] Nikola Tesla, The Master of Lightning
http://www.uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslacar.html Facinating, we had an era of electric car in the pass. Nikola Tesla is the reason we are using AC power today. He invented an electric car power source that require no charging and can power an 80hp car to 90 mph. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally
Title: Message The source has been documented and the "leaker" of the minutes has been arrested and is awaiting arraignment. What are you, Republican? Walker Bennett Sedona, Arizona "I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them." --Isaac Asimov My personal homepage My writing portfolio In The Beginning - ISBN: 1-4116-3848-4 Just In Time - ISBN 1-4116-3851-4 Available from Amazon.Com Ad Astra - Coming Soon from Cydonia Publishing -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael JonesSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:58 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Bulk] Re: [Biofuel] Exclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab Ally And I feel sorry for anyone who believes this.Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2.htmExclusive: Bush Plot To Bomb His Arab AllyMadness of war memoBy Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power
Hi David, Actually, the situation is ten-fold worse than you indicate. There is a ten-fold error in your calculation: to wit, 30hr * 60 min/hr * 60 sec/min = 108,000 sec (not 10,800). This reduces the hydrogen content in the airstream to .009% v/v, not .09% - making hydrogen a truly miracle fuel. This suggests that either we are lacking important information or there is a scam at work. Cheers, Bob Adams - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power William Adams wrote: David, Thanks for the correction of air intake. Agreed, it would be good to look at the beast. Can the anecdotes can be believed ? And, is the concept for real? Let's try putting a couple of things together here Darryl says: According to the CHEC website (http://www.chechfi.ca/), the unit uses 4 litres of distilled water in 12,000 km. You calculated that 12 cc of liquid water electrolyzes to 15 liters of H2 gas. I figured that a 10 liter engine at 1800 RPM uses ~120 liters of air/second. If we assume 100 km/hr driving speed that's 4 liters of water in 120 hours, or 1 liter in 30 hours. In 30 hours of driving we have 30 * 60 min/hr * 60 sec/min = 10800 seconds. 10800 seconds * 120 liters/sec = 1296000 liters of air. 1 liter water * 15 liters H2/.012 liters water = 1250 liters H2. 1250 liters/H2 / 1296000 air = .09% H2 by volume. That H2 would seem to be pretty potent stuff if .09% of it can increase the efficiency of the engine by a net 10%. --- David ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] well
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Happy Thanksgiving all, Keep the faith, keep up the good work, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDhOjj0STXFHxUucwRAvOPAKCLPa1uj57y53Lx3NSWzLE8i3pniACfdyN0 KSq3KI53yMDHLah0ZwHRtI4= =xLWf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] ethanol distillation
I have a question for the group. Would a water distiller like the kind found at www.waterdistiller.com be similar to an alcohol still? Usually an alcohol still has a column and uses water as the coolant for the condenser. These water distillers use a coil that is air cooled. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Nikola Tesla, The Master of Lightning
Rexis Tree wrote: http://www.uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslacar.html Facinating, we had an era of electric car in the pass. Nikola Tesla is the reason we are using AC power today. He invented an electric car power source that require no charging and can power an 80hp car to 90 mph. from the link: with an 80-horsepower alternating-current electric motor with no external power source. At a local radio shop he bought 12 vacuum tubes, some wires and assorted resistors, and assembled them in a circuit box 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods sticking out. Getting into the car with the circuit box in the front seat beside him, he pushed the rods in, announced, We now have power, and proceeded to test drive the car for a week, often at speeds of up to 90 mph. As it was an alternating-current motor and there were no batteries involved, where did the power come from? the question shouldn't be where did the power come from but where did the srory come? this is obviously mythology. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Nikola Tesla, The Master of Lightning
Tesla was a little nutzo. He spent years trying to transmit electricity through the air like radio waves. He invented the Tesla coil and the Tesla turbine. I think if you link up Turk's waste oil burner with the Tesla turbine you could have a winner. Ken --- bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rexis Tree wrote: http://www.uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslacar.html Facinating, we had an era of electric car in the pass. Nikola Tesla is the reason we are using AC power today. He invented an electric car power source that require no charging and can power an 80hp car to 90 mph. from the link: with an 80-horsepower alternating-current electric motor with no external power source. At a local radio shop he bought 12 vacuum tubes, some wires and assorted resistors, and assembled them in a circuit box 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods sticking out. Getting into the car with the circuit box in the front seat beside him, he pushed the rods in, announced, We now have power, and proceeded to test drive the car for a week, often at speeds of up to 90 mph. As it was an alternating-current motor and there were no batteries involved, where did the power come from? the question shouldn't be where did the power come from but where did the srory come? this is obviously mythology. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] ethanol distillation
Don't think so. The purpose of distilling alcohol is usually to separate it from water. The boiling point of alcohol is close to that of water so the temperature of the vessel and cooling column is critical. When water is distilled it is usually separated from salts and other contaminants. The temperature is not critical for that process. Ken --- Jonathan Schearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for the group. Would a water distiller like the kind found at www.waterdistiller.com be similar to an alcohol still? Usually an alcohol still has a column and uses water as the coolant for the condenser. These water distillers use a coil that is air cooled. - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The bad news about Biodiesel
What I would like to know is why these big biodiesel companys in europe that are sabose to be ahead inthe biodiesel industryhaven't started using algae to produce biodiesel. This is taken from wikipedia biodiesel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel The production of algae to harvest oil for biodiesel has not been undertaken on a commercial scale, but working feasibility studies have been conducted to arrive at the above yield estimate. In addition to a high yield, this solution does not compete with agriculture for food, requiring neither farmland nor fresh water. john ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
