Re: [Biofuel] Fw:'''~~movie'''~~25
I see the idiots have woken up again. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Chips in your chickens
That only falls in line with other policies in the bizzarro world of the federal gubmint: Clear *Skies* initiative that rolls back progress of the clean air act USA Patriot act that rolls back protection and rights under the constitution Redler, get with the program. We're ALL Republicans now. -Winston An unqualified FEMA director who's emails included quotes like can I quit now? after Katrina. ...etc, etc, etc. Why not have a myopic USDA spend a boat load of dollars tracking the symptoms rather than the root cause which, by enlarge, is already known. ...so what's wrong with feeding livestock the brains and end-trails of their brothers, sisters, cousins and parents anyway? Even if every person on Earth voices dissent against what the US gubmint is doing, there is still the monumental task! of picking a priority and direction. I don't see an end in sight unless every citizen of every country becomes active and voices their dissent. It's everybody's problem. I just get extremely frustrated trying to figure out how much I can do in between anti-racist demonstrations, fighting for quality K-12 education and programs that promote science and engineering - causes that I've adopted over the last two years. Thank you. Keep up the good work. By the way, there is no point. I'm venting. Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] GMC on the right track with PAD?
Paul S Cantrell wrote: GMC PAD Wins The 2006 Los Angeles Vehicle Design Challenge I gotta tell ya, it's an intriguing concept for folks who are not homesteaders. A bit over the top. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw:'''~~movie'''~~25
I see the idiots have woken up again. Chris. Yeah, or their computers have. Anyway, no harm, the virus attachment got stripped before it was distributed, it's just an empty message. Best Keith Wessex Ferret Club http://www.wessexferretclub.co.ukwww.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [PasturedPigs] NAIS letter
That only falls in line with other policies in the bizzarro world of the federal gubmint: Clear Skies initiative that rolls back progress of the clean air act USA Patriot act that rolls back protection and rights under the constitution An unqualified FEMA director who's emails included quotes like can I quit now? after Katrina. ...etc, etc, etc. Why not have a myopic USDA spend a boat load of dollars tracking the symptoms rather than the root cause which, by enlarge, is already known. ...so what's wrong with feeding livestock the brains and end-trails of their brothers, sisters, cousins and parents anyway? Even if every person on Earth voices dissent against what the US gubmint is doing, there is still the monumental task of picking a priority and direction. I don't see an end in sight unless every citizen of every country becomes active and voices their dissent. It's not quite so dire Mike, IMHO. It's this matter of enough. That quote about Churchill again: ... what I tend to think of as Churchill's critical threshold level, when he mouthed that nonsense that you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - while knowing very well that there's absolutely no need to fool all of them all of the time just as long as you can fool enough of them enough of the time. Which all our governments succeed in doing. There's the common idea that things change when enough people want them to - when enough Americans (eg) get the message about biodiesel (eg) they'll vote with their pockets and the magic of the marketplace will do the rest, ExxonMobil (eg) will bow out gracefully and take to selling bathroom fittings instead. But that's not how it works, societies meet the challenge of change via a creative minority, not a democratic majority. What Margaret Mead said is true: Never underestimate the power of a small group of individuals to change the world. In fact, it is the only thing that ever has. It's everybody's problem. Indeed so. I just get extremely frustrated trying to figure out how much I can do in between anti-racist demonstrations, fighting for quality K-12 education and programs that promote science and engineering - causes that I've adopted over the last two years. Just do what you do. Probably you can't ever know, but unless you can be certain that your own efforts don't make a difference you have to keep on doing it. You and the rest of the Other Superpower - rather a large creative minority, seems to me, as creative minorities go, the first truly global one maybe. Even if we're a part of it, all any of us can see of it is the tip of the iceberg, along with what we're doing in our own lives. Will it be enough? Too soon to tell. Too soon to lose hope too. Take care Keith Thank you. Keep up the good work. By the way, there is no point. I'm venting. Mike Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Please call your representatives, senators and everyone you can. This bill includes cats and dogs. And if you think it is about preventing disease, think about this: All of your food will be microchiped! I do know how hard it is to find those microchips and remove them when you butcher, the emu industry used them. We could all wind up with a pound of microchips in our intestines. Bright Blessings, Kim Worth reading. Worth thinking about. Worth writing about. Worth fighting. Begin forwarded message: From: Laura Haggarty Date: January 9, 2006 9:39:31 AM EST Hi all, I got this letter from another email list (with permission to cross-post and use), made a few small modifications, and have sent it to my local newspaper (have already written to my legislators.) I thought you all might want to send it along to yours: Dear Editors, I am writing to ask the Grant County News to publish my letter in order to inform their subscribers about the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) which is currently in its initial stages. This USDA-run program has as its goal the registration of every farm animal (including non-food animals such as horses) in a centralized government database. This program will require micro chipping of each animal (including all forms of poultry), at the expense of the owner, and a premises ID for every farm which will be linked to a satellite photo and Global Positioning System record (see this link for the USDA website about the program: www.usda.gov/nais/) [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Churchill didn't say it.........
Snip ... what I tend to think of as Churchill's critical threshold level, when he mouthed that nonsense that you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - Though I am an admirer of the great man I have to put in my tuppence worth here. Winston did not originate this quote. It comes from the greatest showman of all time, a 19th century American called Phineas Taylor Barnum. His exact words were, in introducing a conjuring act sometime in the mid-1800s, were: You may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time. They were repeated in a political context by Abraham Lincoln in a speech given at Clinton on September 8, 1858. Regards, Bob. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Churchill didn't say it.........
gee, and all this time I thought Bob Dylan said it... :-) Bob Molloy wrote: Snip ... what I tend to think of as Churchill's critical threshold level, when he mouthed that nonsense that you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time - Though I am an admirer of the great man I have to put in my tuppence worth here. Winston did not originate this quote. It comes from the greatest showman of all time, a 19th century American called Phineas Taylor Barnum. His exact words were, in introducing a conjuring act sometime in the mid-1800s, were: You may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time. They were repeated in a political context by Abraham Lincoln in a speech given at Clinton on September 8, 1858. Regards, Bob. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biodiesel Performance
Dear every one, I'm new in this community, now I'm PIC of biodiesel (from CPO) project in my company, I have some question about biodiesel performance: 1. what is biodiesel consumption with comparison to petroleum diesel oil 2. What is the best utilization of crude glycerin produced by mini-plant biodiesel of 900 lt/d, can we mixed crude clycerin with methanol as heating fuel 3. if can, How to design a continous burner with crude glycerin Methanol mixture as the fuel. Thanks, Best regards, Setiyadi, Indonesia ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Quiet Death Of Freedom
Nice read. This gent writes well. Todd Swearingen http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11462.htm The Quiet Death Of Freedom By John Pilger 01/05/06 ICH -- -- On Christmas Eve, I dropped in on Brian Haw, whose hunched, pacing figure was just visible through the freezing fog. For four and a half years, Brian has camped in Parliament Square with a graphic display of photographs that show the terror and suffering imposed on Iraqi children by British policies. The effectiveness of his action was demonstrated last April when the Blair government banned any expression of opposition within a kilometre of Parliament. The High Court subsequently ruled that, because his presence preceded the ban, Brian was an exception. Day after day, night after night, season upon season, he remains a beacon, illuminating the great crime of Iraq and the cowardice of the House of Commons. As we talked, two women brought him a Christmas meal and mulled wine. They thanked him, shook his hand and hurried on. He had never seen them before. That's typical of the public, he said. A man in a pin-striped suit and tie emerged from the fog, carrying a small wreath. I intend to place this at the Cenotaph and read out the names of the dead in Iraq, he said to Brian, who cautioned him: You'll spend the night in cells, mate. We watched him stride off and lay his wreath. His head bowed, he appeared to be whispering. Thirty years ago, I watched dissidents do something similar outside the walls of the Kremlin. As night had covered him, he was lucky. On 7 December, Maya Evans, a vegan chef aged 25, was convicted of breaching the new Serious Organised Crime and Police Act by reading aloud at the Cenotaph the names of 97 British soldiers killed in Iraq. So serious was her crime that it required 14 policemen in two vans to arrest her. She was fined and given a criminal record for the rest of her life. Freedom is dying. Eighty-year-old John Catt served with the RAF in the Second World War. Last September, he was stopped by police in Brighton for wearing an offensive T-shirt, which suggested that Bush and Blair be tried for war crimes. He was arrested under the Terrorism Act and handcuffed, with his arms held behind his back. The official record of the arrest says the purpose of searching him was terrorism and the grounds for intervention were carrying placard and T-shirt with anti-Blair info (sic). He is awaiting trial. Such cases compare with others that remain secret and beyond any form of justice: those of the foreign nationals held at Belmarsh prison, who have never been charged, let alone put on trial. They are held on suspicion. Some of the evidence against them, whatever it is, the Blair government has now admitted, could have been extracted under torture at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. They are political prisoners in all but name. They face the prospect of being spirited out of the country into the arms of a regime which may torture them to death. Their isolated families, including children, are quietly going mad. And for what? From 11 September 2001 to 30 September 2005, a total of 895 people were arrested in Britain under the Terrorism Act. Only 23 have been convicted of offences covered by the Act. As for real terrorists, the identity of two of the 7 July bombers, including the suspected mastermind, was known to MI5, and nothing was done. And Blair wants to give them more power. Having helped to devastate Iraq, he is now killing freedom in his own country. Consider parallel events in the United States. Last October, an American surgeon, loved by his patients, was punished with 22 years in prison for founding a charity, Help the Needy, which helped children in Iraq stricken by an economic and humanitarian blockade imposed by America and Britain. In raising money for infants dying from diarrhoea, Dr Rafil Dhafir broke a siege which, according to Unicef, had caused the deaths of half a million under the age of five. The then Attorney-General of the United States, John Ashcroft, called Dr Dhafir, a Muslim, a terrorist, a description mocked by even the judge in his politically-motivated, travesty of a trial. The Dhafir case is not extraordinary. In the same month, three US Circuit Court judges ruled in favour of the Bush regime's right to imprison an American citizen indefinitely without charging him with a crime. This was the case of Joseph Padilla, a petty criminal who allegedly visited Pakistan before he was arrested at Chicago airport three and a half years ago. He was never charged and no evidence has ever been presented against him. Now mired in legal complexity, the case puts George W Bush above the law and outlaws the Bill of Rights. Indeed, on 14 November, the US Senate effectively voted to ban habeas corpus by passing an amendment that overturned a Supreme Court ruling allowing Guantanamo prisoners access to a federal court. Thus, the touchstone of
Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering with vacuum.
Your water-to-steam volume change calculation is not correct. The correct volume increase is 1,244x, obtained as follows: One mole (molecular wt. in gm)of liquid water = 18 gm = 18 cc. One mole of steam = 18 gm h2o vapor = 22,400 cc. At standard temperature and pressure, and for equal molar quantities, the volume change is simply: steam volume / liquid volume = 22,400/18 = 1,244.44... Cheers, Bob (West Linn) - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering with vacuum. Hey Logan and David;These numbers are reasonable. (don't forget to factor in an amount for a steady state leake rate on your system as this adds to the load your pump will see as it approaches base vacuum) Actually I can get on the order of 100 to 200 ml water out of 25 liters of oil at times collecting in my liquid trap. This is estimated I have not measured it. Perhaps I should. But this is after heating to 55 degrees celsius and draining any liquid water that precipitates. So 200 mls in 25 liters is 0.8% water by volume. I'm not sure what your batch size is but as a conservative figure use 1% to figure the amount of water you will have to remove by vacuum. Also remember that a 5 CFM pump will not necessarily give you 5 CFM as was pointed out before. And even after correcting it using gas law equation it still is hampered by conductance of piping between the pump and chamber. Rule of thumb here is use large diameter pipe (as large as the pump inlet if possible) and as few elbows as possible will help a lot.To give you a feel for these factors consider my system takes about an hour to remove said amount of water. My system is relatively leak tight I can get to 29 inches ultimate on a dry system, so I am getting an EFFECTIVE throughput of about 4 to 5 liters per minute at vacuum BUT I am using a dual stage rotary pump which is designed to do 18 CFM. Throughput is reduced dramatically by the fact that I am pumping through a 1/4" tube!! Bear in mind that from the standpoint of throughput bigger is always better, but as a girl I once knew taught me; quality counts for more. When I was pumping through 1/2" copper pipe I only succeeded in causing the contents of the reactor to froth up and " boil over" contaminating the liquid trap in the process. So it is possible to have too much of a good thing. You can reduce the conductance of the piping or install a valve for throttling the pump to avoid this problem and toward the end of the drying cycle open up the valve to speed up the end game. If your reactor starts rumbling and dancing around on it's stand it is a good bet that you will suck liquid up into the condenser, especially if the reactor is filled to a high level.I hope I have helped and not made it seem a lot more complicated. If so take a hint from the fact that my pump is more than adequate for my 30 liter size reactor. I get a sense that it could easily handle a 150 liter tank. There is a tradeoff between heat and vacuum. Either one can speed the drying process but you don't want froth! When I started learning about vacuum my mentor said " you can't rush a vacuum son - we got time for a coffee" so true.CheersJoelogan vilas wrote: David Sorry if that number's wrong it's what I've been told from the only person I know who does AC work. But that number makes it sound a lot better. You will not have 1 cubic foot of water in your oil after you settle and drain it. If you do then you need to get a better method. There is likely less then 1 cubic inch after setteling and draining. That would only take 6 miniutes to remove. Logan Vilas - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dewatering with vacuum. logan vilas wrote: Water boils off at 43F at 20-50mmhg of vacuum at sea level. At 140F it takes about 150-200mmhg. When fluids are mixed togther the Pressure of Vaporization changes especially when thouroughly mixed. You do not need a condensor if you are useing a AC type vacuum pump(that's what they are designed for). I know iowa's BECON program flash heats their oil to 230F then runs it through a vacuum chamber to achieve dewatering. Unless you have a very large vacuum pump or very little water in your oil it will take a long time. Water multiplies in volume by 10-18 thousand times when boiled. Say WHAT? I'm not sure what number you mean by "10-18 thousand". The number I remember is about 1700 times. 1 Cubic foot = 1728 cubic inches 1 Cubic Inch of water when boiled off = 5.79 cubic feet minimum 1 gallon = 231 cubic inches Vacuum Distilation alone would take a huge amount of time. I would still heat then let it settle and remove
