[Biofuel] A story from Grist Magazine

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Re: [Biofuel] A story from Grist Magazine - Walmart

[Tony Marzolino]

Hello Dave - Good post.  
   
  Hello List - I am a part of several Internet list and at least weekly a story 
about Wal-Mart appears, usually negative.  Fixing Wal-Mart is easy - STOP 
SHOPPING THERE.  That's it...
   
  Yes it that simple.  I guarantee this will work...Smile.  Have a great day 
all.
   
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Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[M&K DuPree]

I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine, except that 
asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine living a life in 
darkness...cool.  But what do people do when they're in the dark???  
Hmm...well...I might suggest that although we might take the equivalent of 
75,000 cars off the road for a year, Earth Hour might add a million new souls 
to the planet.  Just a thought.  Mike DuPree
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dawie Coetzee 
  To: Biofuels Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour


  - Forwarded Message 
  From: " " < >
  To:  
  Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM
  Subject: Fw: Earth Hour


  Subject: FW: Earth Hour


  EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007 

  Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do something 
about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will be 
  done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than through a 
hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen.

  What is Earth Hour?

  It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March 31st 
2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments,
  individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour. If we 
meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings in green
  house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium sized cars 
off the road for one whole year! Now that's something worth doing.

  Why?

  The facts are alarmingly clear:

  * The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have occurred since 
1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record keeping
  began.
  * More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed by 2050 if 
carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced. (WWF-International)
  * One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to climate change.

  But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your opportunity to 
demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life could change, and
  help save, our planet.

  The goals of Earth Hour:

  Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on standby, 
old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using 
  them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can make a 
dramatic impact upon global warming (and our own power bills). We will
  see it in action.

  Companies : We want companies to be involved. If every company turned off its 
lights when the buildings weren't in use, and combined it with energy saving 
technology, we would save between 2 and 4 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses 
every year. Earth Hour will show companies just how easy that is.

  To make it an annual event : Out of the 8,766 hours in a year, let's give one 
back to the earth.

  What you can do:

  Sign up to Earth Hour and Pledge to turn off your lights on March 31st from 
7.30pm to 8.30pm by logging onto www.earthhour.org 

  You will receive all the information you need to make Earth Hour a great 
success (and to cut your own energy bills in the long term). Pledging is 
  free.

  Get off standby : Turn off all the electronic equipment and appliances in 
your home that are not being used or are on standby. Computers,
  televisions, stereo equipment, phone chargers, DVD or video equipment. 

  Tell a friend : Spread the word about earth Hour by involving your friends, 
family and workmates. Get them to pledge at earthhour.org and
  most importantly, turn off the lights at 7.30pm Saturday 31 March 2007.

  Spread the word - Once you have signed up for Earth Hour tell a friend; 
spread the word at work; tell your boss; mention it at school, at your
  local sports club or society group, you can even run it past your neighbours!

  Make it an event. Get your family and friends to switch off their lights as 
well; 

  Take some binoculars and look at the stars; sit and talk by candlelight; 

  Explore your backyard by torchlight; 

  Have fun with sparklers; or just do something non-electric as a family; 

  Have a picnic-at-dusk; pretend you are camping; or have a candlelight dinner.

  For more info on Earth Hour, check out www.earthhour.org

  EARTH HOUR. MAKE IT HAPPEN.




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Re: [Biofuel] If It Weren't for Worms

[robert and benita rabello]

Fritz Friesinger wrote:


Hi Robert,
try to get some dry sawdust or shavings of wood (rip),this is 
composting very well.



   I can do this, as my father-in-law enjoys woodworking and always has 
a sawdust collection available.


I had in Montreal a sawdustbin,wich was not tite on top,so a lot of 
rip and dust went over.Every once a while i cleaned the edge of the 
bin and past a toplayer of dry stuff,i always digged out very nice and 
well composted black earth ! And this on a gravel underground! There 
where no worms around,but fayrly moist.



   It's a good idea, and I'm going to try it.  But I still believe that 
the anaerobic nature of my composting indicates I need more air in the 
process.  We've had WEEKS of hard rain recently.  I'm certain that the 
wind has driven some of that rain through the holes I'd drilled into the 
compost bin, and this resulted in soggy material that couldn't compost 
properly.



Keep up good gardening,
we here in the eastern are eager to start too



   Thanks, Fritz!  I'd transplanted a tree a few weeks ago because the 
ground had FINALLY softened enough for me to dig.  I broke my favorite 
shovel in the process, and I'm certain that I cut enough roots to kill 
the tree.  Everything on our property is blossoming right now EXCEPT for 
this Japanese Maple . . .  My fruit trees have more buds on them this 
year than I've ever seen before.  It's exciting!



robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
"The Long Journey"
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http://www.newadventure.ca

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Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[Keith Addison]

>I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine, 
>except that asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine 
>living a life in darkness...cool.  But what do people do when 
>they're in the dark???  Hmm...well...I might suggest that although 
>we might take the equivalent of 75,000 cars off the road for a year, 
>Earth Hour might add a million new souls to the planet.  Just a 
>thought.  Mike DuPree

:-)

Plenty of room.

This was for Candle Night - that's where "Earth Hour" comes from. See 
"Cooking oil candles" (scroll down a little):
http://journeytoforever.org/edu.html#biofuel

Candle Night:
http://www.candle-night.org/index.html

http://www.candle-night.org/english/

Best

Keith


>- Original Message -
>From: Dawie Coetzee
>To: Biofuels Mailing List
>Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM
>Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
>
>- Forwarded Message 
>From: " " < >
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM
>Subject: Fw: Earth Hour
>
>Subject: FW: Earth Hour
>
>EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007
>
>Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do 
>something about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will 
>be
>done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than 
>through a hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen.
>
>What is Earth Hour?
>
>It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March 
>31st 2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments,
>individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour. 
>If we meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings 
>in green
>house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium 
>sized cars off the road for one whole year! Now that's something 
>worth doing.
>
>Why?
>
>The facts are alarmingly clear:
>
>* The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have 
>occurred since 1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record 
>keeping
>began.
>* More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed 
>by 2050 if carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced. 
>(WWF-International)
>* One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to climate change.
>
>But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your 
>opportunity to demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life 
>could change, and
>help save, our planet.
>
>The goals of Earth Hour:
>
>Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on 
>standby, old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using
>them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can 
>make a dramatic impact upon global warming (and our own power 
>bills). We will
>see it in action.
>
>Companies : We want companies to be involved. If every company 
>turned off its lights when the buildings weren't in use, and 
>combined it with energy saving technology, we would save between 2 
>and 4 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses every year. Earth Hour 
>will show companies just how easy that is.
>
>To make it an annual event : Out of the 8,766 hours in a year, let's 
>give one back to the earth.
>
>What you can do:
>
>Sign up to Earth Hour and Pledge to turn off your lights on March 
>31st from 7.30pm to 8.30pm by logging onto 
>www.earthhour.org
>
>You will receive all the information you need to make Earth Hour a 
>great success (and to cut your own energy bills in the long term). 
>Pledging is
>free.
>
>Get off standby : Turn off all the electronic equipment and 
>appliances in your home that are not being used or are on standby. 
>Computers,
>televisions, stereo equipment, phone chargers, DVD or video equipment.
>
>Tell a friend : Spread the word about earth Hour by involving your 
>friends, family and workmates. Get them to pledge at 
>earthhour.org and
>most importantly, turn off the lights at 7.30pm Saturday 31 March 2007.
>
>Spread the word - Once you have signed up for Earth Hour tell a 
>friend; spread the word at work; tell your boss; mention it at 
>school, at your
>local sports club or society group, you can even run it past your neighbours!
>
>Make it an event. Get your family and friends to switch off their 
>lights as well;
>
>Take some binoculars and look at the stars; sit and talk by candlelight;
>
>Explore your backyard by torchlight;
>
>Have fun with sparklers; or just do something non-electric as a family;
>
>Have a picnic-at-dusk; pretend you are camping; or have a candlelight dinner.
>
>For more info on Earth Hour, check out 
>www.earthhour.org
>
>EARTH HOUR. MAKE IT HAPPEN.


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Re: [Biofuel] If It Weren't for Worms

[Fritz Friesinger]

Hello Robert,
the Sawdust will help to aerate your compost,its important doe to turn the 
whole thing over once a while.
For transplanting trees,my advice is,cut back at least 1/3 of the 
branches,better moore then not enough,the roots you miss since the 
transplantation have to be balanced by lesser foliage!
Good gardening!
Fritz
  - Original Message - 
  From: robert and benita rabello 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] If It Weren't for Worms


  Fritz Friesinger wrote:

Hi Robert,
try to get some dry sawdust or shavings of wood (rip),this is composting 
very well.

  I can do this, as my father-in-law enjoys woodworking and always has a 
sawdust collection available.


I had in Montreal a sawdustbin,wich was not tite on top,so a lot of rip and 
dust went over.Every once a while i cleaned the edge of the bin and past a 
toplayer of dry stuff,i always digged out very nice and well composted black 
earth ! And this on a gravel underground! There where no worms around,but 
fayrly moist.

  It's a good idea, and I'm going to try it.  But I still believe that the 
anaerobic nature of my composting indicates I need more air in the process.  
We've had WEEKS of hard rain recently.  I'm certain that the wind has driven 
some of that rain through the holes I'd drilled into the compost bin, and this 
resulted in soggy material that couldn't compost properly.


Keep up good gardening,
we here in the eastern are eager to start too

  Thanks, Fritz!  I'd transplanted a tree a few weeks ago because the 
ground had FINALLY softened enough for me to dig.  I broke my favorite shovel 
in the process, and I'm certain that I cut enough roots to kill the tree.  
Everything on our property is blossoming right now EXCEPT for this Japanese 
Maple . . .  My fruit trees have more buds on them this year than I've ever 
seen before.  It's exciting!



robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
"The Long Journey"
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

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Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[M&K DuPree]

I love it...looking forward to trying my hand at making candles per technique 
described.  And please no one get me wrong about possibly eschewing the 
benefits of lights off for at least an hour...at least an hour!
 Keith...I have these questions, however.  You mention "plenty of room" 
regarding more people on the planet.  I seem to remember you having made this 
comment before.  While I don't doubt we might have "plenty of room," 
quantitatively, what about the resources to support more...and more...and more 
of us?  It seems to me that human overpopulation is the single most imbalancing 
act occurring on the planet, making all efforts to introduce and manage 
behavior that might be beneficial to the planet and each other incredibly 
difficult, if not impossible.  It seems to me the sooner the world adopts a 
zero population growth strategy the better it will be for all.  Your thoughts?  
MD

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour


> >I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine, 
>>except that asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine 
>>living a life in darkness...cool.  But what do people do when 
>>they're in the dark???  Hmm...well...I might suggest that although 
>>we might take the equivalent of 75,000 cars off the road for a year, 
>>Earth Hour might add a million new souls to the planet.  Just a 
>>thought.  Mike DuPree
> 
> :-)
> 
> Plenty of room.
> 
> This was for Candle Night - that's where "Earth Hour" comes from. See 
> "Cooking oil candles" (scroll down a little):
> http://journeytoforever.org/edu.html#biofuel
> 
> Candle Night:
> http://www.candle-night.org/index.html
> 
> http://www.candle-night.org/english/
> 
> Best
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Dawie Coetzee
>>To: Biofuels Mailing List
>>Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
>>
>>- Forwarded Message 
>>From: " " < >
>>To: 
>>Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM
>>Subject: Fw: Earth Hour
>>
>>Subject: FW: Earth Hour
>>
>>EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007
>>
>>Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do 
>>something about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will 
>>be
>>done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than 
>>through a hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen.
>>
>>What is Earth Hour?
>>
>>It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March 
>>31st 2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments,
>>individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour. 
>>If we meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings 
>>in green
>>house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium 
>>sized cars off the road for one whole year! Now that's something 
>>worth doing.
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>The facts are alarmingly clear:
>>
>>* The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have 
>>occurred since 1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record 
>>keeping
>>began.
>>* More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed 
>>by 2050 if carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced. 
>>(WWF-International)
>>* One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to climate change.
>>
>>But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your 
>>opportunity to demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life 
>>could change, and
>>help save, our planet.
>>
>>The goals of Earth Hour:
>>
>>Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on 
>>standby, old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using
>>them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can 
>>make a dramatic impact upon global warming (and our own power 
>>bills). We will
>>see it in action.
>>
>>Companies : We want companies to be involved. If every company 
>>turned off its lights when the buildings weren't in use, and 
>>combined it with energy saving technology, we would save between 2 
>>and 4 million tonnes of greenhouse gasses every year. Earth Hour 
>>will show companies just how easy that is.
>>
>>To make it an annual event : Out of the 8,766 hours in a year, let's 
>>give one back to the earth.
>>
>>What you can do:
>>
>>Sign up to Earth Hour and Pledge to turn off your lights on March 
>>31st from 7.30pm to 8.30pm by logging onto 
>>www.earthhour.org
>>
>>You will receive all the information you need to make Earth Hour a 
>>great success (and to cut your own energy bills in the long term). 
>>Pledging is
>>free.
>>
>>Get off standby : Turn off all the electronic equipment and 
>>appliances in your home that are not being used or are on standby. 
>>Computers,
>>televisions, stereo equipment, phone chargers, DVD or video equipment.
>>

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[Chip Mefford]

M&K DuPree wrote:
> I love it...looking forward to trying my hand at making candles per technique 
> described.  And please no one get me wrong about possibly 
>eschewing the benefits of lights off for at least an hour...at least an 
>hour!
>  Keith...I have these questions, however.  You mention "plenty of room" 
> regarding more people on the 
>planet.  I seem to remember you having made this comment before.  While I 
>don't doubt we might have "plenty of room," 
>quantitatively, what about the resources to support more...and more...and more 
>of us?  It seems to me that 
>human overpopulation is the single most imbalancing act occurring on the 
>planet, making all efforts to introduce and manage 
>behavior that might be beneficial to the planet and each other incredibly 
>difficult, if not impossible.  It seems 
>to me the sooner the world adopts a zero population growth strategy the better 
>it will be for all.  Your thoughts?  MD
>
ORIGIN SNIPPED

While I'm certainly Keith can step foward and lend us some more
fun input, I thought I'd have a go.

Depending on who you believe, we are somewhere in the
general neighborhood of 7.2b folks.

gather it all in one big pile, and divy it up,
and it looks like somewhere in the 8.7 to 9.2b
range for water,food and such.

But NOT at the current rate of consumption/destruction.

I liked the book 'Limits to Growth' from way
on back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limits_to_Growth
It's been republished and updated, and it's
pretty cool to note how close the 'Club of Rome'
folks were on this research.

Similar set of numbers have been arrived at by
Lester Brown's earth policy institute, published
in Plan B 2.0 (maybe in Plan B, but I've not
read it)
Personally, I like Lester Brown's take on the whole
cabal, I don't believe it myself, but I think he's got
a good dialog going, and I think he's making a difference,
so he has my support.

Yeah, there really is plenty of room, and plenty for
all, and plenty for more, and the fun part is, according
to all those folks who study this stuff for a living
(something I certainly don't) is that all this stuff, and
all this room, and all this prosperity is supposedly available
to everyone at a standard of living to which pretty much everyone
naturally aspires! This I find most remarkable.

Just like Keith has said, smaller communities, on the scale
of older southern and eastern European towns, directly
supported by nearby sustainable farms, drawing
fresh clean water from the unpolluted earth or
from the trout stream flowing past the platz
where everyone hangs out on sunday. Lots of folks
can live that way. lots and lots and lots more than
we currently have. We have the technology, the know
how and boy-oh-boy do we have the reason.

This is how it's going to end up anyway, either with
8 to 9 billion, or a few million. either way, this
is how it ends up.

On the 'world adopting a zero population growth' thing.
I apologize in advance for my knee-jerk to this. When
I think zero poppers, I think forced sterlization,
pogorms, ethnic cleansing, general xenophobic driven
genocide.

The research I've read at least strongly implies that
lowered population growth is almost directly tied
to the somewhat subjective quality of life index.
One follows the other. Raise the standards of living
where folks are no longer facing immediate starvation,
disease, and so forth, and magically, at least some
of them slow down a bit, and start enjoying life a bit
more, and to have a keener awareness. Sure, the future
is always uncertain. However, when the immediate
threats to survival are removed, the absolute requirement
to procreate isn't under the same threat. birth rates
drop. Overpopulation is a symptom of the disease,
not the disease itself.


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Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[Keith Addison]

Hello Mike

>I love it...looking forward to trying my hand at making candles per 
>technique described.  And please no one get me wrong about possibly 
>eschewing the benefits of lights off for at least an hour...at least 
>an hour!
> Keith...I have these questions, however.  You mention "plenty 
>of room" regarding more people on the planet.  I seem to remember 
>you having made this comment before.  While I don't doubt we might 
>have "plenty of room," quantitatively, what about the resources to 
>support more...and more...and more of us?  It seems to me that human 
>overpopulation is the single most imbalancing act occurring on the 
>planet, making all efforts to introduce and manage behavior that 
>might be beneficial to the planet and each other incredibly 
>difficult, if not impossible.  It seems to me the sooner the world 
>adopts a zero population growth strategy the better it will be for 
>all.  Your thoughts?  MD

Check out the eco-footprints, see just which humans are doing the 
overpopulating and the imbalancing.

"... there is enough for everybody except the greedy".

http://journeytoforever.org/community.html#credo
Community development: Journey to Forever

Please see next post, chapter 3 of World Hunger: 12 Myths, by Frances 
Moore Lappé, Joseph Collins and Peter Rosset: "Myth 3: Too Many 
Mouths to Feed". That's about hunger, but it pretty much applies to 
environment and resources as well. Have a good browse around 
www.globalissues.org while you're there.

Best

Keith



>- Original Message -
>From: "Keith Addison" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
>
> > >I like it...I can imagine kind of a twist on John Lennon's Imagine,
> >>except that asking folks to imagine living a life of peace, imagine
> >>living a life in darkness...cool.  But what do people do when
> >>they're in the dark???  Hmm...well...I might suggest that although
> >>we might take the equivalent of 75,000 cars off the road for a year,
> >>Earth Hour might add a million new souls to the planet.  Just a
> >>thought.  Mike DuPree
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Plenty of room.
> >
> > This was for Candle Night - that's where "Earth Hour" comes from. See
> > "Cooking oil candles" (scroll down a little):
> > 
>http://journeytoforever. 
>org/edu.html#biofuel
> >
> > Candle Night:
> > 
>http://www.candle-night.org/in 
>dex.html
> >
> > http://www.candle-night.org/english/
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: 
><Dawie>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>.uk>Dawie Coetzee
> >>To: 
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> >>Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:35 AM
> >>Subject: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour
> >>
> >>- Forwarded Message 
> >>From: " " < >
> >>To:
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 28 March, 2007 7:59:04 PM
> >>Subject: Fw: Earth Hour
> >>
> >>Subject: FW: Earth Hour
> >>
> >>EARTH HOUR - 7.30pm to 8.30pm - Saturday March 31, 2007
> >>
> >>Earth Hour is a fabulous opportunity for you and your family to do
> >>something about climate change. On one night, in one hour, more will
> >>be
> >>done, more will be demonstrated, and more will be learned than
> >>through a hundred 'talk-fests'. And you can help make it happen.
> >>
> >>What is Earth Hour?
> >>
> >>It sounds simple, but it is very, very dramatic. At 7.30pm on March
> >>31st 2007, we will be encouraging companies, government departments,
> >>individuals and families to turn off their lights for just one hour.
> >>If we meet our objectives during the first Earth Hour, the savings
> >>in green
> >>house gas emissions will be the equivalent of taking 75,000 medium
> >>sized cars off the road for one whole year! Now that's something
> >>worth doing.
> >>
> >>Why?
> >>
> >>The facts are alarmingly clear:
> >>
> >>* The climate is changing! The 10 hottest years on record have
> >>occurred since 1990. In fact 2005 was the hottest year since record
> >>keeping
> >>began.
> >>* More than 95% of the Great Barrier Reef will have been destroyed
> >>by 2050 if carbon dioxide emissions aren't reduced.
> >>(WWF-International)
> >>* One million species worldwide are facing extinction due to 
>climate change.
> >>
> >>But not everybody listens to the facts. Earth Hour is your
> >>opportunity to demonstrate how a simple change in our way of life
> >>could change, and
> >>help save, our planet.
> >>
> >>The goals of Earth Hour:
> >>
> >>Households : Most of us use unnecessary electricity. Appliances on
> >>standby, old style light bulbs, lights left on when we're not using
> >>them. Earth Hour will help us all to realise just how simply we can
> >>make a dramatic impact upon globa

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[Keith Addison]

Thankyou Chip, well put. "Overpopulation is a symptom of the disease, 
not the disease itself." Quite so, I very much agree (except for the 
Lester Brown bit, see my other post, eg). The disease itself is 
poverty, and poverty is induced, it's artificial.

This is from the "About" page at Journey to Forever:

"Well, look around: the way we humans are behaving these days you'd 
think you can buy new planets by the dozen in the local supermarket. 
The deserts are spreading, the forests are shrinking, the climate is 
changing, the water's drying up, whole species vanish for good by the 
minute, pollution is literally everywhere, there's even a hole in the 
sky, and never before have so many people been so poor and so few 
people been so rich.

"This is not what people want, but most people feel helpless to do 
anything about it. Some people now see humans as some kind of 
super-predator that's gotten right out of control, a sort of 
planetary cancer, and the sooner we destroy ourselves, well, the 
better for everything else.

"But it's just not true. In fact most people live pretty much in 
harmony with nature, as they've always done -- all the traditional 
ways of life around the globe got that right a long time ago, or 
they'd never have survived this far. But it's getting difficult to 
follow the old ways -- impossible, for many.

"Why? Overpopulation? It's a myth, a symptom of what's wrong, not the 
cause of it. Nearly a billion go hungry -- in a world where never 
before has there been so much food per capita: 4.3 lbs of food per 
day for each human alive, more than enough for everyone.

"Hundreds of millions are landless -- while in some of the hungriest 
and most 'overpopulated' countries most of the land is owned by tiny 
elites who use only a fraction of their holdings while the rest lies 
idle.

"And the rate of poverty is growing faster than the population is.

"What confronts us is not some intractable result of Malthusian 
biology, enough to make anyone feel helpless -- it's simply 
injustice. Injustice can be stopped in its tracks."

Best

Keith


>M&K DuPree wrote:
> > I love it...looking forward to trying my hand at making candles 
>per technique described.  And please no one get me wrong about 
>possibly
> >eschewing the benefits of lights off for at least an hour...at 
>least an hour!
> >  Keith...I have these questions, however.  You mention 
>"plenty of room" regarding more people on the
> >planet.  I seem to remember you having made this comment before. 
>While I don't doubt we might have "plenty of room,"
> >quantitatively, what about the resources to support more...and 
>more...and more of us?  It seems to me that
> >human overpopulation is the single most imbalancing act occurring 
>on the planet, making all efforts to introduce and manage
> >behavior that might be beneficial to the planet and each other 
>incredibly difficult, if not impossible.  It seems
> >to me the sooner the world adopts a zero population growth 
>strategy the better it will be for all.  Your thoughts?  MD
> >
>ORIGIN SNIPPED
>
>While I'm certainly Keith can step foward and lend us some more
>fun input, I thought I'd have a go.
>
>Depending on who you believe, we are somewhere in the
>general neighborhood of 7.2b folks.
>
>gather it all in one big pile, and divy it up,
>and it looks like somewhere in the 8.7 to 9.2b
>range for water,food and such.
>
>But NOT at the current rate of consumption/destruction.
>
>I liked the book 'Limits to Growth' from way
>on back.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limits_to_Growth
>It's been republished and updated, and it's
>pretty cool to note how close the 'Club of Rome'
>folks were on this research.
>
>Similar set of numbers have been arrived at by
>Lester Brown's earth policy institute, published
>in Plan B 2.0 (maybe in Plan B, but I've not
>read it)
>Personally, I like Lester Brown's take on the whole
>cabal, I don't believe it myself, but I think he's got
>a good dialog going, and I think he's making a difference,
>so he has my support.
>
>Yeah, there really is plenty of room, and plenty for
>all, and plenty for more, and the fun part is, according
>to all those folks who study this stuff for a living
>(something I certainly don't) is that all this stuff, and
>all this room, and all this prosperity is supposedly available
>to everyone at a standard of living to which pretty much everyone
>naturally aspires! This I find most remarkable.
>
>Just like Keith has said, smaller communities, on the scale
>of older southern and eastern European towns, directly
>supported by nearby sustainable farms, drawing
>fresh clean water from the unpolluted earth or
>from the trout stream flowing past the platz
>where everyone hangs out on sunday. Lots of folks
>can live that way. lots and lots and lots more than
>we currently have. We have the technology, the know
>how and boy-oh-boy do we have the reason.
>
>This is how it's going to end up anyway, either with
>8 to 9 billion, or a few mi

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Earth Hour

[Keith Addison]

http://www.globalissues.org/EnvIssues/Population/Hunger/Feeding.asp
Myth 3: Too Many Mouths to Feed

With kind permission from Peter Rosset of the Institute for Food and 
Development Policy (or FoodFirst.org as it is also known), chapter 3 
of World Hunger: 12 Myths, 2nd Edition, by Frances Moore Lappé, 
Joseph Collins and Peter Rosset, with Luis Esparza (fully revised and 
updated, Grove/Atlantic and Food First Books, Oct. 1998) has been 
reproduced and posted here. Due to the length of the chapter, it has 
been split into sub pages on this site.

Myth 3: Too Many Mouths to Feed

MYTH: Hunger is caused by too many people pressing against finite 
resources. We must slow population growth before we can hope to 
alleviate hunger.

OUR RESPONSE: In all of our educational efforts during the past 
twenty-five years, no question has been more common than Do too many 
people cause hunger? We've answered no, but in the eyes of some this 
is tantamount to irresponsibly dismissing population growth as a 
problem.

We do not take lightly the prospect of human numbers so dominating 
the planet that other forms of life are squeezed out, that all 
wilderness is subdued for human use, and that the mere struggle to 
feed and warm ourselves keeps us from more satisfying pursuits.

The question of population is so vital that we can't afford to be the 
least bit fuzzy in our thinking. So here we will focus on the three 
most critical questions this myth poses. Is the human population of 
the world growing "out of control"? Are population density and 
population growth the cause of hunger? And what is the nature of the 
link, if any, between slowing population growth and ending hunger?

Is population growth out of control?

On November 23, 1997, the New York Times Magazine proclaimed in a 
headline: "The Population Explosion Is Over."1 The author of the 
article summed up what demographers have known for some time: human 
fertility and population growth rates are falling as quickly as they 
once rose. In fact, the secondary headline read in part, "the 
prospect of an emptier planet is creating its own set of problems."2

Since we published the last edition of this book, it has become clear 
that human fertility and population growth rates are dropping rapidly 
around the world. In the early 1950s, when we began to hear echoes of 
Thomas Malthus in warnings of an impending population explosion, the 
global total fertility rate (the number of children per woman) was 
five, more than double the replacement rate of 2.1 (the number that 
gives a stable population size over time).3 By the late 1970s the 
total fertility rate had fallen to four, and by the mid-1990s it was 
2.8 and dropping.

European and North American fertility rates peaked in 1955, dropping 
steadily since, and in Europe are now well below replacement. In Asia 
and Latin America, fertility has fallen steadily from about six in 
1950 to below three in 1995. In Africa, fertility peaked at 6.75 in 
the early 1960s, dropping slowly through the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 
1990s. In 1995 it stood at 5.7, about where South Asia and Latin 
America were twenty years earlier, and precisely the fertility level 
at which those regions then experienced accelerated fertility 
declines.

The demographic transition

All of this neatly fits the concept of the "demographic transition," 
first observed in the two centuries preceding 1950 in what are 
today's developed countries.4 Prior to the transition, these northern 
countries experienced high death rates matched by high birth rates, 
resulting in a relatively stable population size over time. But then 
improving living standards and public health measures caused death 
rates to drop, followed by a gradual drop in birth rates, which by 
the 1970s once again matched death rates. Between the 
onset-of-mortality decline and the drop in birth rates, population 
surged in northern countries, actually quadrupling. But that is long 
over, and most developed countries are now projected to experience 
population shrinkage in the future.5

Demographers long posited that today's third world countries would 
undergo a similar transition. Indeed, in the period following World 
War II, mortality decline accelerated in developing countries.6 As 
the demographic transition model would predict, that led to a surge 
in population growth. And as expected, the death rate decline was 
later followed by a compensatory drop in birth rates. Instead of 
taking two centuries for the process to complete itself, this time it 
appears it will happen in less than one century.

Based on new data on fertility decline, the United Nations projection 
of the size the human population will reach in the year 2050 is now 
9.37 billion, about 50 percent larger than today's population.7 While 
that may still seem large, the new estimate is down from the 11.16 
billion that was projected just twenty years ago.8 The population is 
projected to stabilize shortly thereafter

[Biofuel] Tories burned by ethanol rebate misfire - CP Wire - 2007.03.26

[Darryl McMahon]

Apparently, there is nothing so simple that government can't mess it up.

Darryl

 Original Message 

Tories burned by ethanol rebate misfire
CP Wire
Mon 26 Mar 2007
Section: National general news
Byline: BY DENNIS BUECKERT
Source:
Length: 378 words
OTTAWA (CP) _ Environment Minister John Baird
is defending the government's decision to offer a
$1,000 fuel-efficiency rebate on gas-guzzling cars
capable of burning high-ethanol fuel even though no
filling station in Canada sells the product.
The Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo can burn
either gasoline or E-85 fuel, but don't rate high for
fuel efficiency when burning gasoline.
Environmentalists call them gas guzzlers.
``This government wants an ethanol vehicle fleet to
be part of Canada's future,'' Baird told the House of
Commons on Monday.
``That's why we're very proud to put Chevrolet
Impala E-85 on the list.''
Opposition critics allege that Finance Minister Jim
Flaherty included the two GM vehicles in the list of
models eligible for government rebates because
they're manufactured in the riding adjacent to his
home riding of Whitby-Oshawa.
``The government has not got a lot of nuance when
they're handing out political favours,'' said NDP
environment critic Nathan Cullen. ``They've handed
them to several key members of Parliament in the
Conservative caucus and this is one of them.
``They're not serious about the environment, they're
just looking for window dressing.''
Robert Fortin of MacEwan Petroleum, which
promotes ethanol, said he knows of only one E-85
station and it is a government-run facility in Ottawa
not accessible to the public.
``There's no demand for E-85,'' he said. ``No one is
asking for it.''
Baird said it is unacceptable that there is only one
service station in Canada offering the fuel, but he
gave no indication of any plan to expand availability.
Kory Teneycke, president of the Canadian
Renewable Fuels Association, said there is a
chicken-and-egg problem with high-ethanol gasoline:
E-85 cars will not be popular until the fuel is widely
available, and the fuel will not be available until
there's strong demand.
He said the government should offer tax breaks for
E-85 fuel to promote its use.
Teneycke defended TV ads being run by his
association showing a car filling up a car that ``runs
on ethanol''even though high-ethanol fuel is not
available.
``I think it's speaking to the aspirations of Canadians
who would like to have more fuel options than just
petroleum, and they want it at a reasonable price and
they want it convenient, and all these things are
possible with E-85.''
Copyright (c) 2007 The Canadian Press



-- 
Darryl McMahon
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Re: [Biofuel] Tories burned by ethanol rebate misfire - CP Wire -2007.03.26

[Jason& Katie]

what about doubling the gas tax, and not taxing ethanol at all? its working 
for cigarettes. in illinois, the state raised the tobacco tax, and 
consumption fell, so they raised it again to meet their goals for the year, 
and it dropped some more. tax it out of existence. cash cost is really the 
only thing the majority of people pay attention to.
 cynical? yes. true? also yes.

- Original Message - 
From: "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Tories burned by ethanol rebate misfire - CP 
Wire -2007.03.26


> Apparently, there is nothing so simple that government can't mess it up.
>
> Darryl
>
>  Original Message 
>
> Tories burned by ethanol rebate misfire
> CP Wire
> Mon 26 Mar 2007
> Section: National general news
> Byline: BY DENNIS BUECKERT
> Source:
> Length: 378 words
> OTTAWA (CP) _ Environment Minister John Baird
> is defending the government's decision to offer a
> $1,000 fuel-efficiency rebate on gas-guzzling cars
> capable of burning high-ethanol fuel even though no
> filling station in Canada sells the product.
> The Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo can burn
> either gasoline or E-85 fuel, but don't rate high for
> fuel efficiency when burning gasoline.
> Environmentalists call them gas guzzlers.
> ``This government wants an ethanol vehicle fleet to
> be part of Canada's future,'' Baird told the House of
> Commons on Monday.
> ``That's why we're very proud to put Chevrolet
> Impala E-85 on the list.''
> Opposition critics allege that Finance Minister Jim
> Flaherty included the two GM vehicles in the list of
> models eligible for government rebates because
> they're manufactured in the riding adjacent to his
> home riding of Whitby-Oshawa.
> ``The government has not got a lot of nuance when
> they're handing out political favours,'' said NDP
> environment critic Nathan Cullen. ``They've handed
> them to several key members of Parliament in the
> Conservative caucus and this is one of them.
> ``They're not serious about the environment, they're
> just looking for window dressing.''
> Robert Fortin of MacEwan Petroleum, which
> promotes ethanol, said he knows of only one E-85
> station and it is a government-run facility in Ottawa
> not accessible to the public.
> ``There's no demand for E-85,'' he said. ``No one is
> asking for it.''
> Baird said it is unacceptable that there is only one
> service station in Canada offering the fuel, but he
> gave no indication of any plan to expand availability.
> Kory Teneycke, president of the Canadian
> Renewable Fuels Association, said there is a
> chicken-and-egg problem with high-ethanol gasoline:
> E-85 cars will not be popular until the fuel is widely
> available, and the fuel will not be available until
> there's strong demand.
> He said the government should offer tax breaks for
> E-85 fuel to promote its use.
> Teneycke defended TV ads being run by his
> association showing a car filling up a car that ``runs
> on ethanol''even though high-ethanol fuel is not
> available.
> ``I think it's speaking to the aspirations of Canadians
> who would like to have more fuel options than just
> petroleum, and they want it at a reasonable price and
> they want it convenient, and all these things are
> possible with E-85.''
> Copyright (c) 2007 The Canadian Press
>
>
>
> -- 
> Darryl McMahon
> It's your planet.  If you won't look after it, who will?
>
> The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook)
> http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Thanks!

[Dawie Coetzee]

This looks like another attempt to spread a virus   -D


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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Thanks!


Please have a look at the attached file.
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