Re: [Biofuel] BD disinfo from SVO kit vendors
Hello Bruno et al. The viscosity and the high boiling point of SVO are just a consequence of the main molecule of SVO and its composition. The SVO consists from triglycerides together with some content of free acidity. Since we are mainly dealing with plant oils (or similar) we can expect the dominating fatty acid content to consist from oleic or linoic acid. These are C18:s which means that the triglyceride will have an approximate sum formula of C57H115O6 . This is a large molecule, which in itself is a reason for its combustion properties. Furthermore, the fatty acids are tied to a backbone of glycerine. This component can be extremely difficult to burn, since its urge to create polymeric compounds rather than vaporize is well known to anybody who have tried burning it. This property increases with the unsaturation of the oil. There are reports suggesting that highly saturated oils and fats are more easy to combust in diesel engines. So the sum is that biodiesel is more suitable than SVO. The additive we successfully tried was manufactured by Sybron Chemicals (SA) and consisted from phenolic compounds, which created soot which diluted the deposits. Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Bruno M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BD disinfo from SVO kit vendors Jan, SVO having a high boiling point doesn't mean it can't be used instead of dinodiesel in a diesel car, because, ... normal Diesel fuel is also completely evaporated before combustion. What you need is a fine mist, not evaporated fuel in a diesel motor. Dino diesel has a boiling point, rather a boiling-range, between 340 and 400°C, so even dino juice will not be much vaporized at the time of ignition. But it's possible that the higher the viscosity, boiling point, and vapor pressure is, the more difficult it is for your dieselcar's hardware to make the ultimate mist who gives the ideal burning of all fuel components. Thats why SVO conversion kits alway's have a fuel heather device in it to lower the viscosity so the pump - injector combo can produce a optimal ( or as close as possible ) mist. At 95°C sunflower oil has around the same viscosity then DD at 15°C. DOE and other governmental organizations still claim that SVO will shorten the live span of your motor and more cooking and reduced motoroil live span will appear. Mixing with dinojuice or an additive can also help but is not the best or preferred option if you want to go fossil free. What additive did you use or tested? Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 18:30 20/11/2007, Jan wrote: Hi all, I find it difficult to embrace any SVO technology. That is for many reasons, but the most outstanding is the high boiling point of SVO:s. Canola vaporizes completely at no less than 650-700oC, which is far too high for modern diesel engines which have a limit of acceptance at approx 350oC. This means that the SVO cannot combust completely in a diesel engine. This leads to deposits in the engine, some of them lethal to the engine, and lubricating oil contamination. This is a fact that no SVO kit can cure. I was into a SVO project during the 90:s and we found one additive that could keep the deposits at a certain level. But the composition of the additive was such, that the handling of the fuel became environmentally undesirable, also from the human health point of view. If somebody has an attractive technical/chemical solution for this I would be very interested to hear about it. Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] BD disinfo from SVO kit vendors See: The SVO vs biodiesel argument: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svovsbd.html = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Bio-gasoline from sugars
FYI: ~~ www.bgtbiogasoline.com/ BGT Biogasoline possesses intellectual property for the creation of hexane and heptanol from sugars. Specifically, the company ferments sugars (from corn or cellulosic products) into butyric acid, and then either uses Kolbe electrolysis to convert the butyric acid into hexane or a packed bed reactor to create heptanone. The end products, hexane and heptanone, are hydrocarbons which can be readily substitute or be mixed with traditional gasoline. Hexane is already used today as a common constituent of gasoline but the process efficiency is slightly less than ethanol. Heptanone is produced with the same efficiency as ethanol but has 40% more energy (BTU) per gallon. Given a US gasoline demand of approximately 140 billion gallons/year, the demand for hexane and heptanone is correspondingly large. These biogasolines can be used for fuel in any standard gasoline engine because the properties match traditional gasoline from petroleum (heptanone requires a small percentage of octane booster to match gasoline). Ethanol (E85) requires a special engine and has lower combustion energy and corresponding fuel economy. = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 17:44 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] One person's dream, another's nightmare
Hi All, I came across this in a publication called Shamir Readers. It made me think, at first, until the puking started, then all I could do was throw up. Regards,Bob. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shamireaders/messages http://www.arabisto.com:80/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=688 A seldom visited point of view by Aref Assaf of the former village of Allar, a wonderfully beautiful and sad place in Palestine. Allar with its Crusader abbey, a spring and a great fig-tree was destroyed in 1948. It is now part of an Israeli village called Mata. Assaf lives in New Jersey. He is writing in answer to an article by a Jewish American girl who plans to move to Israel. Assaf says he doesn't mind her move, and he does not mind Israel as Jewish state, he is opposed to the settlement of occupied territories. Read from the bottom up. To comment on Dr Assaf's piece, click on his blog entry: http://www.arabisto.com:80/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=688 Abby's dream, my catastrophe. The article below is a quick response to an piece headlined, Our dream will bring us to another land by an American citizen named Abigail Leichman. In her article, Abby, a staff writer for the Bergen Record who often writes about food, etiquette and home decorating interests, is making her goodbyes as she prepares to return to her biblical homeland, Israel. She also writes for Jewish papers about Israel and other Jewish matters, including a piece on the recent 'real estate fair held in Teaneck to sell American Jews lands to build more settlements in Israel. Could it be that Abby was influenced by this event? The organizer's flyer proclaimed: Come learn how you, a group of friends, or even a community can own a home and strengthen the Zionist dream. My response to this article was very spontaneous because Abby's words exposed old wounds and shattered dreams. This was a very painful letter to write but it needed to be said. More than anything else, I hope Abby will read my words. I urge you to first read the article then read my short response which I sent to the Bergen Record. Much more can and should be said but to render my response publishable, I had to keep it short. AA Bergen Record To the Editor Dear Editor: Re: Our dream will bring us to another land I wish I could be a garment in Abby Leichman's luggage as she prepares to go 'home' to Israel. Even though I was born in Palestine and was nurtured by its dry sun and arid soil, I am unable to join Abby in her journey simply because I am not Jewish. Abby, who admits to not being fluent in the local language or culture, and was probably born in New Jersey, will be welcomed with open arms by other foreign settlers. While Abby will automatically receive Israeli citizenship, I will be denied that privilege and, if not thrown back onto the next departing plane, I may be issued a temporary tourist visa to my homeland. This encapsulates but never fully conveys the essence of the Palestinian people's plight. Abby's heartwarming story may solicit compassion and 'good wishes' from some readers. Yet it is the tragic destiny of the other unmentioned side, the Palestinian Arabs who understandably will not throw the red carpet for Abby. I wish Abby had told her readers that her going home to Israel will mean Palestinians will have lost more of their lands and groves. This is the area occupied by Israel since 1967. As part of a final peaceful resolution between the Palestinians and the Jews, this parcel of historic Palestine, the West Bank and Gaza, was supposed to become the future Palestine state which our President has envisioned since 2002. I have no issue with Abby living in Tel Aviv or Beersheba. In fact, most Palestinians have accepted the two- state solution by ceding 78% of historic Palestine to Israel and asking for the remainder to be their future Palestine state. I do, however, have a major issue with her joining the over 400,000 other settlers who, because of ideological or monetary incentives, choose to live in stolen lands belonging to the Palestinians. These lands, through government-authorized confiscations and illegal and counterfeit purchases will be where Abby will build her home. Abby did not share with us this little secret. Abby's new home will mean that Palestinians will be squeezed into even more suffocating enclaves, surrounded by barbed wire, massive walls, and hundreds of checkpoints. Abby may never experience being stopped by an Israeli solder at these checkpoints, deep into the occupied West Bank, because in fact these structures primarily separate Palestinians from other Palestinians, separate Palestinians from their fields, from their places of worship and their schools. Dear Abby, you tell us that you are returning to your ancestral home to build a nation. But what about my ancestral home in Palestine, and what about the thriving nation you will have destroyed? What about my
Re: [Biofuel] One person's dream, another's nightmare
which part made you throw up? On 11/21/07, Bob Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I came across this in a publication called Shamir Readers. It made me think, at first, until the puking started, then all I could do was throw up. Regards,Bob. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shamireaders/messages http://www.arabisto.com:80/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=688 A seldom visited point of view by Aref Assaf of the former village of Allar, a wonderfully beautiful and sad place in Palestine. Allar with its Crusader abbey, a spring and a great fig-tree was destroyed in 1948. It is now part of an Israeli village called Mata. Assaf lives in New Jersey. He is writing in answer to an article by a Jewish American girl who plans to move to Israel. Assaf says he doesn't mind her move, and he does not mind Israel as Jewish state, he is opposed to the settlement of occupied territories. Read from the bottom up. To comment on Dr Assaf's piece, click on his blog entry: http://www.arabisto.com:80/p_blogEntry.cfm?blogEntryID=688 Abby's dream, my catastrophe. The article below is a quick response to an piece headlined, Our dream will bring us to another land by an American citizen named Abigail Leichman. In her article, Abby, a staff writer for the Bergen Record who often writes about food, etiquette and home decorating interests, is making her goodbyes as she prepares to return to her biblical homeland, Israel. She also writes for Jewish papers about Israel and other Jewish matters, including a piece on the recent 'real estate fair held in Teaneck to sell American Jews lands to build more settlements in Israel. Could it be that Abby was influenced by this event? The organizer's flyer proclaimed: Come learn how you, a group of friends, or even a community can own a home and strengthen the Zionist dream. My response to this article was very spontaneous because Abby's words exposed old wounds and shattered dreams. This was a very painful letter to write but it needed to be said. More than anything else, I hope Abby will read my words. I urge you to first read the article then read my short response which I sent to the Bergen Record. Much more can and should be said but to render my response publishable, I had to keep it short. AA Bergen Record To the Editor Dear Editor: Re: Our dream will bring us to another land I wish I could be a garment in Abby Leichman's luggage as she prepares to go 'home' to Israel. Even though I was born in Palestine and was nurtured by its dry sun and arid soil, I am unable to join Abby in her journey simply because I am not Jewish. Abby, who admits to not being fluent in the local language or culture, and was probably born in New Jersey, will be welcomed with open arms by other foreign settlers. While Abby will automatically receive Israeli citizenship, I will be denied that privilege and, if not thrown back onto the next departing plane, I may be issued a temporary tourist visa to my homeland. This encapsulates but never fully conveys the essence of the Palestinian people's plight. Abby's heartwarming story may solicit compassion and 'good wishes' from some readers. Yet it is the tragic destiny of the other unmentioned side, the Palestinian Arabs who understandably will not throw the red carpet for Abby. I wish Abby had told her readers that her going home to Israel will mean Palestinians will have lost more of their lands and groves. This is the area occupied by Israel since 1967. As part of a final peaceful resolution between the Palestinians and the Jews, this parcel of historic Palestine, the West Bank and Gaza, was supposed to become the future Palestine state which our President has envisioned since 2002. I have no issue with Abby living in Tel Aviv or Beersheba. In fact, most Palestinians have accepted the two- state solution by ceding 78% of historic Palestine to Israel and asking for the remainder to be their future Palestine state. I do, however, have a major issue with her joining the over 400,000 other settlers who, because of ideological or monetary incentives, choose to live in stolen lands belonging to the Palestinians. These lands, through government-authorized confiscations and illegal and counterfeit purchases will be where Abby will build her home. Abby did not share with us this little secret. Abby's new home will mean that Palestinians will be squeezed into even more suffocating enclaves, surrounded by barbed wire, massive walls, and hundreds of checkpoints. Abby may never experience being stopped by an Israeli solder at these checkpoints, deep into the occupied West Bank, because in fact these structures primarily separate Palestinians from other Palestinians, separate Palestinians from their fields, from their places of worship and their schools. Dear Abby, you tell us that you are returning to your ancestral home to build a nation. But what about my ancestral home
