[Biofuel] Thanks to Lyle
Just got back from visiting some friends in Hillsboro, NC and decided to stop by Piedmont Biofuels Coop. I just want to thanks Lyle for giving me a tour of the facility and enlightening me as I try to figure out how to start the Susquehanna Biodiesel Coop in Central PA. I understand that all of the mover and shakers in our biodiesel world will be at Central Carolina Community College on January 28 and 29th for a conference. I hope to make a return to NC for the conferenceÑweather permitting and my husband agreeing to watch our three year old for the weekend. I really value the camaraderie among us Ògrease users.Ó It reminds me of my Macintosh buddiesÑalways willing to help. Once I get some experience under my belt, I look forward to helping the Ònewbies.Ó Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] TDI Question
Hi Everyone! I am a station wagon kind of mom. I don't want to drop a lot of money on a "new" car, so purchasing a new Jetta or Passat wagon TDI is out of the question. Finding a used TDI wagon is very hard. I found some gasoline Passat wagons on auto trader for under $10,000. Could I purchase one of them and put a diesel engine in it? Is it physically possible? Does it make financial sense? Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] More winterizing questions
Do you think putting plastic over the windows in ones home helps to keep the heat in during the winter? Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Supply List
Hi Everyone! Thanks to those who replied to my last e-mail. I appreciate the encouragement! IÕve heard some rumors about the upcoming winter in the NortheastÑa huge blizzard and black outs. I was wondering if someone could suggest the items I might need to stock up on just in case we are snowed in for a week. Where does one get a back up generator? Is that used for electrical appliances? I know that its really common sense items like toilet paper, food, water, candles, batteries with flashlights, extra bottle of prescription medicines. But what happens when you canÕt heat your house or you have no electricity? How do you protect your pipes from exploding? Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA -- Somewhere, someone is looking for exactly what you have to offer. Louise Hay ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] I made a test batch!
Yesterday, I went to the Fulton Center for Sustainable Living at Wilson College, Chambersburg, PA and made some bio diesel. My first batch! I canÕt believe how ÒniceÓ the exhaust from my TDI smells! Sorry, I just had to share my excitement with the group! I feel like a kid on Christmas day! IÕve been part of this group for almost two years. I finally got a TDI at the end of October and now my goal is to start home brewing beginning the first of the year! My family thinks I am nuts, but I donÕt care! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [biofuel] Response I got from PA Dept. of Environmental Protection
Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA -- Somewhere, someone is looking for exactly what you have to offer. Louise Hay > The state may know a 'lot' about biodiesel, but the person who responded > seems to think that biodiesel is soybean oil. Look on > journeytoforever.org or google.com for information on biodiesel emissions. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Newbies looking for a demo
Wilson College in Chambersburg PA (Right off I-81, 15 miles north of the PA/MD border) will hold a demonstration on how to make bio diesel this Friday at 10 am. You can visit there website at www.Wilson.edu to learn more about it. It is part of an environmental conference being held all weekend at the College. Wendy Adams Harrisburg PA -- Somewhere, someone is looking for exactly what you have to offer. Louise Hay > Hi, > > We're new to the list and interested in starting to produce biodiesel and > run it in a diesel VW Jetta. We're a little intimidated to just start > right in (despite the insistence on the journeytoforever website that > these chemicals are safe if handled properly, we're worried that in our > enthusiastic rush to get started right away, we're going to cause serious > damage to ourselves or the car). > > We live in Upstate New York (Utica) and are wondering if there is anyone > out there who is somewhere in the northeast USA who we could come out and > visit his or her biodiesel producing operation to get a hands-on > demonstration? > > Thanks! > > Matt & Annie > 315-624-0070 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Response I got from PA Dept. of Environmental Protection
I recently wrote a letter of inquiry to the PA Department of Environmental Protection seeing if the Commonwealth is implementing Bio Diesel. Here is the response for anyone on the list who cares about Bio Diesel and Pennsylvania! Can anyone on the list address the concern of air pollution with B20? Thanks! Wendy, Your e-mail was forwarded to my attention. I am pleased to inform you that the state has extensive knowledge on the use of biofuels, namely biodiesel and ethanol. The biofuel in common use is B20 (a blend of 20% soybean oil with 80% diesel fuel). The soybean meets the ASTM (American Society for Testing and Materials) standards for quality. I listed below, some of the activities underway in PA: 1) We have been convening a Biomass Task Force to discuss promoting these fuels throughout the state. 2) The Turnpike Commission uses B20 in their truck fleet in the Southeast and will be using B20 in the western end of the turnpike. 3) PennDOT conducted a pilot project with B20, but is not using it because of the added cost. 4) Departments of Environmental Protection and General Services discussed specification necessary to place B20 on the state contract. 5) Recent legislation drafted and supported by DEP includes a subsidy for school districts who use B20 in their buses. Two primary reasons for the slow introduction of biodiesel are : 1) the added cost of the fuel and 2) concern of air pollution. Currently, biodiesel adds close to $.20 to the cost of diesel blends of B20. DEP is also aware that one of the ozone precursors regulated under the Clean Air Act, oxides of nitrogen or NOx, is emitted in higher amounts when biodiesel is combusted in diesel engines. While the increase may only be 2 - 5% in B20 blends, the emissions of this pollutant increases radically with B100. The biodiesel industry is aware of this concern and has been developing an additive. As for making B20 available to the public, it is not likely that gasoline and diesel station operators will be willing to dispense biodiesel without assurances that it will be economically feasible. The state will continue to promote biofuels and as gasoline and diesel prices continue to increase, it is possible that the added costs for using B20 will grow smaller. Thank you for integers. Susan K. Summers Program Manager PA Department of Environmental Protection Office of Energy & Technology Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] 717-783-9242 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] How many miles can you put on a diesel engine?
I came across a 2001 VW Golf tdi on Ebay with approx. 280,000 miles. I was wondering since the car is only three years old and in relatively good shape, would it be a bad investment? My husband (oh those husbands) says it has too many miles on it for his liking. He is afraid he is going to have to dump more money in to the car than what it worth. It on e-bay right now and there is no reserve. The current bid is $3,500. I thought it would be a good deal if I could get it for $4,000. Any thoughts? When do you get rid of car to get another one? We currently have a 1991 Honda Civic Station Wagon with 130,000. It seems like for the last two years wee put $2000 in order for it to pass inspection! Wendy Adams -- Somewhere, someone is looking for exactly what you have to offer. Louise Hay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] News article in NY Times about diesel cars
Too bad they didnÕt mention that a diesel engineÕs saving grace is that it needs to run on biofuel, not diesel fuel. We need to educate and encourage folks to buy a diesel engine and run it on biofuel. Someone needs to make it available at the pump everywhere to make it a viable alternative for those folks who are not into home brewing. Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ New York Times Energy Bill Would Welcome Back Diesels By DANNY HAKIM Published: November 22, 2003 DETROIT, Nov. 21 - Twenty-five years after diesel cars largely disappeared from American highways in a black cloud of tailpipe exhaust, the energy bill whose fate is hanging in the Senate invites a much cleaner incarnation back. These so-called advanced diesels would be eligible for tax credits equal to those in the bill for alternative-fuel vehicles and gas-electric hybrids. Advertisement Environmental groups say that the new generation of diesels will still be too dirty to merit tax breaks but they view credits for cleaner technologies like hybrids and hydrogen fuel cells as one of the few things to like about the bill. Over all, they say, the energy bill will increase the nation's automotive oil consumption. Automakers see the provision, as well as the energy bill at large, as a victory. Several automakers - particularly those based in Europe, where millions of diesels are sold each year - view diesels as the most viable way to cut Americans' swelling oil consumption. "We definitely support it and are very pleased, from the language we've seen," said Kathleen Graham, a spokeswoman for DaimlerChrysler. "We think we should encourage all advanced technologies with tax credits and not just one because right now there's not a clear winner," she added. But Dan Becker, an energy expert at the Sierra Club, said many of the vehicles that would receive diesel credits would not even meet the minimum standards in California, which sets more stringent air quality standards than the federal government. "We don't need diesels," he said. "For them to share a tax credit meant to benefit clean cars like hybrids is appalling." The Joint Committee on Taxation forecasts that tax credits for advanced technology and alternative-fuel vehicles will cost more than $2.2 billion from 2004 to 2013. The committee did not break down the cost of credits for diesels versus hybrids and other technologies. After the oil shocks of the 1970's, diesels had a period of modest popularity in the United States. But as gas prices receded, consumers grew tired of the smoke and smells associated with the engines, as well as quality problems with some diesel offerings from General Motors. In recent years, automakers have been exploring technologies to clean up diesels, to try to meet tightening emissions and fuel economy regulations in Europe and with an eye to reintroducing diesel engine cars in the United States. China, the world's fastest-growing market for automobile sales, is also poised to impose fuel economy standards more stringent than those in the United States. Even some regulators said they thought diesels might be useful in meeting the goals of using less oil while also reducing pollution. "I think it's part of the solution,'' Alan Lloyd, chairman of the California Air Resources Board, said in a recent interview. "The more I see these things, I don't know that there's any magic bullet." Environmentalists are not convinced that diesel can ever be as clean as gasoline. Current diesel technology presents trade-offs. Diesels still emit considerably more smog-forming pollutants like nitrogen oxides, volatile organic chemicals and soot than comparable gasoline cars do. But diesels also improve fuel economy by 30 to 40 percent and reduce oil consumption by about 15 percent, reducing emissions that many scientists link to global warming. For instance, the 2003 Volkswagen Jetta with a four-cylinder gasoline engine and an automatic transmission emits 7.9 to 11.8 pounds of smog-forming pollutants every 15,000 miles, according to data from the Environmental Protection Agency. But a comparable car with a diesel engine emits at least 43.7 pounds of pollutants. On the other hand, the gasoline Jetta gets average combined city and highway mileage of 26 miles a gallon and emits 7.4 tons of greenhouse gases a year, compared with 5.5 tons and 38 m.p.g. for the diesel. The types of advanced diesel vehicles that would be eligible for credits under the energy bill would have new filtration technologies that greatly narrow the pollutant gap with gasoline cars. "Obviously, it could help kick-start the return of diesels to the U.S.," said Allen Schaeffer, executive director of the Diesel Technology Forum, referring to the energy bill. His group is financed by automakers, diesel engine makers and oil companies. "Gas cars don't offer the 20 to 40 percent fuel economy gains that y
[biofuel] What Greenercars.com has to say about Bio Fuel
Hello everyone! I just went to greenercars.com to see what was on there and I found this paragraph and was outraged! http://www.greenercars.com/gctext.html#everyone Bi- and Flex-Fuel Vehicles A number of automakers are now offering vehicles with bi-fuel capability, meaning the ability to run on either an alternative fuel or gasoline. For example, some pickup trucks can be set to run on compressed natural gas (CNG) or gasoline, depending on what fuel is available to the driver. Flexible-fuel vehicles (FFVs) can automatically detect the fuel put into the tank, typically an alcohol-gasoline blend such as E85 or M85 (85 percent ethanol or methanol, respectively, with 15 percent gasoline). ACEEE's Green Book¨ does not provide listings for bi- and flex-fuel vehicles since their environmental performance is not generally different than that of their gasoline-only counterparts. In terms of tailpipe emissions, a bi-fuel CNG vehicle may be cleaner when running on CNG than when running on gasoline. Some FFVs may be cleaner when running on their alternative fuel, but in practice this rarely happens. Some automakers are making FFVs widely available to the general market in a number of models. But since alternative fuels (such as E85) are available in very few locationsÑmany FFV drivers do not even know of their vehicles' alternative fuel capabilityÑFFVs are operated almost exclusively with gasoline. Nevertheless, automakers are getting higher credits toward their fuel economy requirements with every FFV they sell. Ironically, such sales are causing more pollution overall because of the corresponding decrease in fleetwide fuel economy. Thus, the availability of FFVs, while perhaps well intentioned, is resulting in higher nationwide gasoline consumption, higher oil dependence, and worse global warming pollution than would otherwise occur. Is this all true? Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] New to the list
Hello! My name is Wendy Adams. I am 38 years old and a stay-at-home mom. Both my husband and I own 1991 Honda Civic Hatchbacks. His is two door. Mine is the four door station wagon. In the near future we will need to purchase another car and I would like that car to be environmentally friendly. IÕve enjoyed being part of your list serve and I am very excited to learn about BioFuel. I am afraid that my husband and I are not knowledgeable about engines what so ever and that if we go the route of BioFuel we would be lost. Is there a ÒBio FuelÓ car club in the Harrisburg, PA area that we could join? I was also thinking of going the route of buying a VW Jetta station wagon diesel and just using a fuel additive that I saw on the internet called Ethos Fuel Reformulator http://www.ethosfr-media.com/. Would appreciate any guidance! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA -- Somewhere, someone is looking for exactly what you have to offer. Louise Hay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
