Re: [biofuel] truck question
I know this is a late reply but for current and the last few model years Ford and Dodge do not offer the diesel in the 1/2 ton I have asked dealers specifically and been told they don't. steve spence wrote: ford, Chevy, dodge, all make 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton diesel pickups. S Suppose one wanted a half ton truck with diesel motor. Can you buy one, and if not, is a conversion fesible, and if so, what would you recommend? Glenn Ellis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Huge Hydrogen Stores Found Below Earth's Crust
Not yet I will try some more experiments in the future. I need a more controlled environment. I am using a non heated building where the control sample also displayed some separation. Sorry for the delayed response all the ranting and raving turned me off to wading through the emails. Mike Frieders wrote: Perhaps we could get back to the subject of bio-diesel. Someone was experimenting with electricity in seperating out the glycerin. Did you have any luck? What about temperature, will cold for example cause the glycerin to seperate out of solution? Does glycerin freeze before BD or the other way around? Steven-Lee Craig wrote: Harmon, Sounds like you have really studied. In fact if you know as much about religion as you say, I would say you are an expert on the subject. Too bad you didn't realize that study of religion is as a potent poison as one can ingest. After all, look what conclusion you came to. You dumped the only true purpose for an existence on this planet. Too much study of religion equals, No faith. No future. I listened to a guy the other day that told me he learned more from the Buddhists and Hindus than from any Christian teaching. I am sure of one thing, and that is that he will learn more at his death than he ever learned from the Buddhists, Hindus, or the Christians. But by then it will be too late to act on it!!! Steven-Lee Craig Radio Free Huron serving Huron county 24 hours a day at 100.1 FM WWW.RADIOFREEHURON.COM As a former christian, and fundamentalist at that, I have to say as far as I'm concerned, christianity is a deception. And as I pointed out before, I have a degree in religious studies with an emphasis in biblical literature, and before I went back to school had studied both the bible and church history intensively for years. I know for a fact that I know more about the bible and church history than *any* preacher I ever met -- and I know plenty. The church is directly to blame for a great many of our current problems, environmental, social, and political, and has been since it's inception when they ripped off the messiah of Israel and perverted it into something it was not. The Inquistion was official church policy, they torturing and burning of thousands upon thousands of women in Europe was official church policy. The genocide of Native Americans, the enslavement of Africans, was made a part of church doctrine. The current War On Some Drugs (which accounts for 75% of our prison population) is pure religious persecution brought about by the church. The epitome of christian political policy in Amerika today is the most evil man in Amerika today, John Asscruft -- just look at his face, listen to his voice, it's like Nazi Germany all over again. Nazism is something else I've studied pretty intensely, and is one of the reasons I find the current regime so frightening. Adolph Hitler once said: Those who think National Socialism is a polical party know nothing about it. It is a religion, and the SS are the high priests. Hitler himself was not a great intellect, nor had he much personal power, he was a medium, a puppet, for the masters behind him who groomed him, educated him, and set him in place. There are great parallels between him and that evil little retard, George W. Bush. Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] racecar methanol
I am buying it through a farmers coop for more like $1.5 a gallon. Look around. The Coop doesn't want to sell small quantities so you may have to store some volume. Cooke, Peter wrote: Hi, I'm new to the list serve. Question about methanol... I can get some 99% pure for 7$/ gallon however some folks using it for racecars inthe area can sell it cheaper-like 3$/gal. I'm wondering if there are additives in the fuel for race cars I should be wary of and if they will negatively affect the reaction when I'm mixing w/ the grease? Thanks, PC Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Is it OK to heat BD to remove water?
Re: [biofuel] cloudiness (followup un my 2nd Titration - to Keith)
I have had a continuing problem with that also. The only thing that has worked is to reclaim the alcohol, or boil it off, first then let the BD settle out for several weeks at which time I get an inch or two settling out of 5 gallons. This is at varying temperatures that were between 55 degree F and 75 degrees F in our sun room in the winter. Drain/syphon off the clear stuff and then wash. Some thing is remaining in the BD I have tried very low amounts of Lye to high amounts and nothing seems to work. With higher amounts of lye It will be clear at room by won't wash clear. It does seem that it clears better no matter the amount of lye used with the alcohol removed first. Let's keep in contact on this one. Christian wrote: Hi Keith, My batch of BD settled the glycerine out nicely, though the BD still seemed a bit cloudy. It was translucent, but not crystal clear... Is this suspended water? I now bubble-washed it (not for long... the first few minutes produced an emulsion of BD+water which seemed murky white-ish/yewllow-ish. Now I«m settling it. The first wash water is very white (almost like milk). QUESTION: If the BD remains non-crystal-clear after some washing settling, should I take it to 105 deg C for some minutes? Best wishes, Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel
I routinely get 0.87 to 0.88 for biodiesel from WVO. 0.89 is probably ok if the wash left a very clear liquid. You should be able to read text when looking through 20 cm of BD at room temperature or even slightly below. If there is any cloudiness you may have left over water in the mix. Manuel Simoes wrote: I made some biodiesel from WVO, after the first wash with water and acetic acid i found a biodiesel with ph=7, and very limpid, but the density is 0.89 diferent of common diesel (0.84-0.85), is this density correct ??? Cumprimentos. Manuel Simes AUTO-VILA, Reciclagem de Resduos Industriais SA Sede: Urb. do Polo Tecnolgico de Lisboa, Lt. 1 - S 201/2 - 1600-546 Lisboa Tel.: +351 21 7110600 Fax: +351 21 7110619 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [Click Here!] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] electricity
I'll let you know I have an experiment running right now. I hope I don't run into cold fusion like results or I may have to build a new barn. Mike Frieders wrote: Im no chemist, but has anyone looked into the use of electrical current to facilitate the process of seperating glycern from bio diesel? It seems somewhat dangerous using these acids and such. Would some combination of material used as an electrode accomplish the same end? Has anyone ever considered this before? Just a thought. Mike Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT [Click Here!] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Think People!
This is why I am so grateful for message filters in Netscape. It may be time to separate this group into 2 or more focused sections. I would suggest the following categories Making Biofuel, One for Biofuel politics, Equipment and source of biofuel... Keith Addison wrote: Okay...I give up... Who here is not thinking? Todd Swearingen 'Tis but Mr Binarydarkfall, methinks. None of us is revolting either. :-) I've pointed out to this poster that not only is he way off-topic, for the third time (in a total of three posts), but that there are people from many cultures here, many of whom would find his message offensive. Actually I think everyone will find it offensive. Anyway, apologies, please ignore. Keith - Original Message - From: binarydarkfall To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: [biofuel] Think People! What luck for rulers, that men do not think. - Adolf Hitler. Hitler was an evil man and I shouldn't give him any credit for anything he said because of his atrocities; however he is a genious snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Gel point benefits of Acid Base processing
Do you have a comparison between batches processed in the single step method and in this dual stage method from the same starting material? Keith Addison wrote: Joe Giacomini wrote Is there some quantitative data on how the gel point is improved by using the two stage conversion process at: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html ,known as the Foolproof method for making biodiesel. This method has twp parts where acid (sulferic acid and methanol) is used first to remove FFA's then a base (lye and methanol)to perform the transesterification. It seems logical that this should greatly improve the gel point. Lab tests of fuel made this way gave these results: Spec. grav. (density) 886g/l Kin. visc. 4.7 mm2/sec CFPP -9 deg C IR spectrum equal to control samples from commercial producers in Austria CFPP = cold filter plugging point See: National standards for biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#biodstds Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] acceptable containers for methoxide mixing
And a simple method to avoid pressure buildup is to press out extra air before sealing. Harmon Seaver wrote: Perhaps not all, but most HDPE containers I see are marked as such on the bottom. I think it started with the recycling thing, almost all plastic containers are marked as to what type of plastic they are. On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:01:09AM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Todd and all I guess HDPE = High-Density PolyEthylene. Is there a simple way of identifying plastics, and other than HDPE, which types would be suitable? I've had a couple of tough-looking plastic measuring jugs I used for methoxide which quite quickly started starring and getting spider-web cracks, and finally just disintegrated. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Frankenfood warning!
The USDA's recommended name is Soylent Green. The source of protein enrichment for the growing solution is yet to be disclosed. Alan S. Petrillo wrote: http://dailynews.netscape.com/dailynews/cnn/story_2.tmpl?story=2002032210065001126808shortdate=0322 In a word: YUUCK! AP -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/