RE: [Biofuel] Rabbits ( was - Creating a cool room storage in a hotclimate )
Purina Feed Co. has a lot of info on breeding rabbits commercially. Once back in 1979 I attended an informal presentation on breeding rabbits for meat, the best type of rabbit, how often to breed the doe, how long she produces in her life, what is considered a good breeder opposed to one that doesn't produce enough in a litter, etc. this was in Amite, Louisiana at a feed store. Maybe you can get hold of them through your feed supplier if other means aren't available. just a thought jcg -Original Message- From: Greg Harbican [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Rabbits ( was - Creating a cool room storage in a hotclimate ) - Original Message - From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 06:28 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate > > Yes, I do raise rabbits. I am curious, why do you ask? I also have > chickens, pigs, goats, sheep beef and milk cows and gardens. > The reason I asked if you raised rabbits, is that I'm just starting, and was hoping that you might have some advise, with them.I have looked all over the net, and almost everything I see, seems to contradict everything else I see, like for breeding, I have seen, " Put the doe in with the buck, overnight ", " Put the doe in for half an hour, then pull her out, and repeat an hour later ", " Put the doe in for the day, put her back, in her cage over night, then back in with the buck for the next day ", or even " Put the doe in for a day, then pull her out and then do it again a week later " - you see what I mean? I have a nice NZW doe that is reputed to have an average litter size of 12 ( ranging from 10 to 14 ) and has raised all youngsters of all litters, I also have a nice Flemish Giant buck, with a good body and a great coat, " Steel " in color. Does anyone else on the list raise/breed rabbits? Greg H. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll
Become an American citizen... and denounce your current citizenship jcg -Original Message- From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 3:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kerry preferred around World - Poll Sorry, but as a world citizen, I have to disagree with you. I find these ultra conservative leaders a real worry. I do not like the bullying attitude of the current world leadership, and as the world's greatest superpower, America rates right up there. As a world citizen, I think if America is the greatest superpower, everyone should get to vote for the president, because the president dictates so much of world policy. just my 2c worth, regards Doug On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:58 am, Allan De Groot wrote: > So far that is THE best aregument for re-electing Bush that I've heard. > > America's foreign interests may well go against world opinion. > if so that's just too bad > I don't think that having US national security issues decided > in Paris or Bejing is "sound judgement" > > the citing that in China Kerry is prefered sets off serious warning bells > in my mind. > If it doesn't in your mind there is something very wrong. > > AD > > At 10:38 PM 9/8/04 -0500, you wrote: > > Most countries want Kerry in White House > > Sep 9, 2004 > > http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_9-9-2004_pg4_2 > > > > WASHINGTON: A majority of people in 30 of 35 countries want Democratic > > party flagbearer John Kerry in the White House, according to a survey > > released Wednesday showing US President George W Bush rebuffed by > > all of America's traditional allies. > > > > On average, Senator Kerry was favored by more than a two-to-one margin > > - 46 percent to 20 percent, the survey by GlobeScan Inc, a global > > research firm, and the local University of Maryland, showed. > > > > "Only one in five want to see Bush reelected," said Steven Kull, > > the university's program on international policy attitudes. > > "Though he is not as well known, Kerry would win handily if > > the people of the world were to elect the US president." > > > > The only countries where Bush was preferred in the poll covering > > a total of 34,330 people and conducted in July and August were > > the Philippines, Nigeria and Poland. India and Thailand were > > divided. > > > > The margin of error in the survey covering all regions of the > > world ranged from plus or minus 2.3 to five percent. > > > > Kerry was strongly preferred among all of America's traditional allies, > > including Norway (74 percent compared with Bush's seven percent), > > Germany (74 percent to 10 percent), France (64 percent to five percent), > > the Netherlands (63 percent to six percent), Italy (58 percent to 14 > > percent) and Spain (45 percent to seven percent). > > > > Even in Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair is Bush's closest ally > > in the war on terror, Kerry trounced the incumbent 47 percent to 16 > > percent. > > > > Kerry was also greatly favored among Canadians by 61 percent to Bush's 16 > > percent > > > and among the Japanese by 43 percent to 23 percent. Even among countries > > that have > > > contributed troops to Iraq, most favored Kerry, and said that their view > > of US foreign policy has gotten worse under Bush. > > > > They included Britain, the Czech Republic, Italy, the Netherlands, the > > Dominican Republic, Thailand, Kazakhstan, Japan, Norway and Spain. > > > > Asked how President Bush's foreign policy had affected their feelings > > towards the United States, a majority of those polled in 31 countries > > said it made > > them > > > feel "worse" about America, while those in only three countries said it > > had made > > > them feel "better." > > > > "Perhaps most sobering for Americans is the strength of the view that > > US foreign policy is on the wrong track, even in countries contributing > > troops in Iraq," said GlobeScan President Doug Miller. > > > > In Europe, the exception for Bush was a new ally, Polland, where he was > > preferred by a narrow majority of 31 percent against Kerry's 26 percent. > > Another new European ally, the Czech Republic, however went for Kerry > > (42 percent to Bush's 18 percent) as did Sweden (58 percent to 10 > > percent). > > > > Asia was the most mixed region, though Kerry still did better. > > Aside from enjoying a large margin in Japan, he was preferred by > > clear majorities in China (52 percent to Bush's 12 percent) and > > Indonesia (57 percent to 34 percent). But those polled were > > divided in India (Kerry 34 percent, Bush 33 percent) and > > Thailand (Kerry 30 percent, Bush 33 percent). > > > > Latin Americans went for Kerry in all nine countries polled. > > In only two cases did Kerry win by a large majority - > > Brazil (57 percent to 14 percent) and the > > Dominican Republic (51 percent to 38 percent) > > - but in most cases the spread was quite wide. > > > > > > > > Global Poll Shows a Kerry
RE: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate
There is a series of books called "Fox Fire" or "Fire Fox" that relates to how people lived in the Appalachian Mountains prior to modern conveniences. There were several ways for cooling. Blocks of ice were cut from ponds and heavily saw dusted and stored in sheds through most of summer. The saw dust is an insulator. Also, buildings were built over creeks with shelves used for cool storage. The books can give more detail. You also might try the magazine "Mother Earth News". Hopefully this helps jcg -Original Message- From: Kim & Garth Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 6:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Creating a cool room storage in a hot climate I have, but if possible I would like to build a natural system that does not require energy. They had to store food here before electricity, all I need to find out is how. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:41 AM 9/9/2004, you wrote: >Have you considered gas fired refrigerators? They are a bit pricey, but >work great, the technology is well developed and, if the refrigerants are >handled properly, environmentally sound. A search on 'Servel', 'RV >Refrigerator' or 'absorption refrigeration' may be useful. > > >Kim & Garth Travis said: > > Greetings, > > [Please note I never say 'hello'] > > > > First I would like to thank the committee for finding a new home for > > biofuels. If someone would be kind enough to share the information on how > > this list is set up, I would love to move my lists to elsewhere, too. > > > > I have been doing a great deal of research since my post much earlier this > > summer about how to preserve the harvest. I have discovered lacto > > fermented vegetables which are quite wonderful. The problem is now that > > instead of needing a bunch of freezers, I need a bunch of > > refrigerators.I have also acquire a Jersey cow name Carol, so I now > > make cheese that needs to be aged. The long term storage temperature > > needs > > to be below 50F. For corning beef and other things I need below 40F but > > above 32F [0 C]. > > > > I have a high water table so I can only go down 4 feet and the ground is > > 65F at this depth. I do make use of this for cooling my buildings, but > > this is a far way from the root cellar I need. My water comes out of the > > ground at 80F so it is no help. We really do need to go off grid so I am > > really trying to keep my power consumption to a minimum. > > > > Root cellaring sounds so wonderful, but I have yet to figure out how to do > > it in a hot humid climate. Any suggestions? > > > > Bright Blessings, > > Kim > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > >-- >Average BTU consumed Per Passenger mile by mode of travel: > >SUV: 4,591 >Air: 4,123 >Bus: 3,729 >Car: 3,672 >Train: 2,138 > >Source: Bureau of Transportation Statistics >http://199.79.179.77/publications/nts/index.html > >It is not a sign of good health to be well adjusted to a sick society. >__ J. Krishnamurti (1895-1986) > >"Reports that say something hasn't happened are interesting to me, because >as we know, there are known unknowns; there things we know we know," >Rumsfeld told the briefing. > >"We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are >some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the >ones we don't know we don't know." > >Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, Feb. 12, 2002, Department of >Defense news briefing >___ >Biofuel mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [biofuel] a connection to society
What a shame it is you are so narrow minded. You try to connect several unrelated circumstances under the umbrella of placing blame on our society for the ills of the world. What a crock... Up until World War II, women were some what second class citizens in western society, not quite to the degree they were at the turn of the last century and before. They were paraded around as chattel, a piece of property. Then came suffrage and women slowly gained equality. They were needed to work because the men were away. From your description, women in the third world are living in the dark ages children aren't any better off. These so called "Black Widows" are a product of the society they live under controlled by people exercising unrighteous dominion. Here in the states widows are taken care of. You are wrong to place their type of society problems on us. Women in that part of the world have been under an iron fist for centuries. It is NOT a result of western aggression. As for the low life and predators in the states, it is a product of the choices they made in their life. The government has poured tax dollars into programs trying to lift those who lacked opportunity. Everybody has the choice to accept or reject the schooling and training available. But in today's world, those who have not think they have to have everything those who have. And they want it instantly, without working for it. They want and expect a hand out. They want something for nothing! They are the parasites in our society. This is a country where you have to be accountable for yourself. If you choose not to support yourself and family, then you are going to live in the lowest of habitations, all because you chose to do so. I agree, there are times when a helping hand is needed, and there isn't anything degrading about it. But when you choose to make it a life style, then the hand out ends and you are going to starve. I have no sympathy for the leaches and low life in this world. It isn't society's responsibility As for this war we are engaged in, hopefully it will liberate the oppressed that live under less than ideal circumstances. You need to get your facts straight before you try to miss lead others. Otherwise it appears you are being deceitful and have an agenda you are trying to push on me. jcg -Original Message- From: Ross Cannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [biofuel] a connection to society What happened in the Russian schoolhouse was terrible. this morning i was speaking to a young, local kid about that mess in Chechnia. i mentioned that just last week two passenger planes in Russia were blown out of the sky by two Chechian women. These women were a part of a group called the black widows because their husbands and many times children have been killed in the war with the Russians and in many Muslim cultures when your husband dies...the wife's life also grinds to a halt. i tried to point out that when any part of a society has no stake in that society then they have no reason to promote the general well being of the society. i mentioned that i thought that we were so lucky that Martin Luther King and Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys and so many others had moved the civil rights movement forward in the 50's and 60's because if they had not we would have people of dark skin color here today with no stake in this society...their children would not have the opportunity to succeed and many would be working actively to bring our society to a halt. as we were driving we passed several of those gas trucks that i never used to notice until they began being blown up all over Iraq by the people who have no stake in what we are doing in their country. In some upscale communities in Chicago there have been a rash of attacks by groups of young people on single, vulnerable men apparently just for the fun of beating the hell out of them. i believe that lack of hope and belief that they have no stake in the future of their society is the cause of all of these desperate acts. until we have leadership and a large number of citizens that understand and accept that we are all the same and work for the good of everyone then we will have the desperate, violent acts occurring all around us and i believe many are becoming more desperate(uninsured, unemployed) and we are going to be seeing more ridiculous violence from these desperate people. Ross o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0oo0o0o00o0o0o The difficult situation that the US is in can not be solved by waging more wars. The violence done in our name generates more violence and hatred against us. The solution arises from changing our attitudes about other people. We need to stop the theft of their resources and labor and begin to treat them with respect and dignity. RossCannon
