from:"M Rolan"

RE: [biofuel] method for the 0'1% of lye solution for making biod iesel

2001-11-12 Thread M Rolan


you can find 3 diferent recipes on those pages:
 
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
 
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleks.html
 
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html
 
 
Best Regards
 
Manolo Roln
Valencia Spain

 



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RE: [biofuel] 55 degs

2001-11-19 Thread M Rolan


H heat it on my kitchen, until it start to be hot enough, then i pour it on
my processor (just a whashing machine pump on a plastic wastepaper basket)
and the methoxide, after 1 hour of mixing i turn off the pump and i let it
settle.
 
I don't use any other heating method. You must be aware of not to heat it
too much, (over 70¼C) or the methanol will evaporate.
 
share your results ;)
 
Cheers
 
Manolo Roln
Valencia, Spain

-Mensaje original-
De: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: sbado, 17 de noviembre de 2001 15:40
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] 55 degs


Hi,

My name is Christian and I«m quite new to this group. I«m currently
finishing Environmental Engineering and to graduate, I must prepare a sort
of thesis (actually, it«s not a thesis... it«s more of a thorough project). 

Anyway, I was thinking of preparing biodiesel to run it on the lab«s diesel
engine (a small boat outboard... not much HP) and eventually test NOx and CO
emissions.

So the question is, in the two stage process, are the 55 ¼C essential, or
can the temperature be roughly a bit more. Actually, for my batch low-volume
process, I was thinking of heating the stew with a closed circuit of water
in copper pipes or something, heated by a fish-tank water heater and pumped
by a small aquarium water pump. Does anyone think this is feasible? What are
the ordinary "home methods" of heating the mixture at 55 degs for over an
hour? Does the initial heating of the brew (until it reaches the 55 ¼C)
count as time?

Thanx.

Christian


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RE: [biofuel] Re: how do i do biodiesel

2001-11-23 Thread M Rolan


hi aleks
the real result is not so reddish like it looks on the photo, anyway
I'll check that and i'll try with other methanol suppliers to see if
something changes.
 
I will post any diferences I could find on the result.
 
thanks for your work on Biodiesel.
 
cheers
 
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Valencia, Spain
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-27 Thread M Rolan


I don't agree with the disposal concept either, and i know what to do with
my glycerin, but, 
 
what can I do with the bubble washing water?
 
i don't sleep happily knowing that i'm throwing all that stuff throught the
toilett
 
 
thanks
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain
 

-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2001 7:44
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of


>I was "treating" my waste glycerin by leaving it out in the sun for a few
>weeks, and later putting a bubbler in it to evaporate the methanol. I am
>building a vacuum distiller that I can use to recover the methanol and
reuse
>it. I believe that all the other stuff (lye, glycerin,leftover fry bits )
>are O.K to put down the drain in small quantities, as per the advice of
>someone who works in the SF water department that said it will all get
>digested along with the poop.
> I imagine large quantities, whatever that may constitute, would be a
>problem, but I have also been told that a constructed wetland water
>treatment system could handle a fair amount of this stuff, as long as one
>were able to give a more constant stream to build up the kind of bacteria
>that would be able to deal with that specific brew of stuff.
> There, now I've said it... some biodieselers put the waste down the drain.
>Any thoughts about that out there? I notice that the veggievan book, and if
>I recall correctly, the journey to forever site, too, are silent on the
>subject of getting rid of glyc. except for the compost heap, which can
>easily be "killed" by large amounts.
>anton

Hello Anton

Journey to Forever has a whole big page on the many uses of glycerin.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html
 

We don't discuss "disposal", no - don't agree with the concept. We've 
discussed uses here on this list previously. Here's a new one on me, 
from the Distillers list: "Glycerine is used to artificially 'age' 
your spirit and give it a little more mouthfeel and smoothness. 
Really good for liqueurs in combination with the sugar syrup. This 
and other smoothing/aging tricks are on Tony's website under 
'Flavouring & Aging'."

That's Tony Ackland's excellent site:
http://www.homedistiller.org  

If you're killing your compost, add more "browns" (aka "dries"), 
now's the time for autumn leaves. No good for red worms until it's 
been composted first, by the way (kills 'em).

Keith Addison
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Handmade Projects
Tokyo
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>-anyone has a method to treat the water from the bubble washing of
>-biodiesel? ... this is a very good question! Somebody must know what
is
>-actually in the dirty water and how much. Then an assessment of how
>damaging
>-the dirty water may be to the environment can be made. Large quantities of
>-this water may pollute local streams or rivers and even wells. Can't be
too
>-careful on issues like this.



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RE: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not?

2001-11-29 Thread M Rolan


thanks to all, i will sleep better tonight ;)
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain

-Mensaje original-
De: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: mircoles, 28 de noviembre de 2001 17:42
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not?



- Original Message - 
From: "Aleksander 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 06:26
Subject: [biofuel] washing water - down the drain or not?


> I've read some posts from people here, concerning the bubble wash 
> water- well, no need to.
> If you remove your meth via vacuum, all it is to it is VERY MILD  
> soap-water. You produce a more lethal thing when showering or taking 
> a bath. 
> The methanol still left in, it provides food for bacteria - again 
> very small quantities. Diluted to a very thin mixture as well. Your 
> spouse/girl/doughter/sister putting hair spray on her hair once a day 
> is releasing the same amount of alcohol in a month as you are when 
> you make a 10 gal batch. 

Many plants consiter methanol to be fertalizer.

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[biofuel] virus from this group

2001-11-29 Thread M Rolan


i have just receive a virus from a user of this list (
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) after
posting a message, if  everyone else is affected can clean it with the
instructions on this page
 
 

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BADTRANS
.B

saludos
 
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Valencis,spain


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RE: [biofuel] virus from this group

2001-11-29 Thread M Rolan


Hi keith:
I don't know that person, and the mail with the virus was a reply to a mail
sended by me to the group and to no one else, this person could be a member
of the group with several e-mail accounts on his email reader, (if you put
that name on google.com and you look on his home page you can find other
email address), if you try to send a email to this person you will recive a
reply to your e-mail with the virus attached on it.

i don't like virus warnings either, but this is a real one and from here, i
have last version of trend Officescan on my computer and it warned me at the
moment the virus came.

happy biofueling!!

Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain




-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 29 de noviembre de 2001 12:32
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] virus from this group


>i have just receive a virus from a user of this list (
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) after
>posting a message, if  everyone else is affected can clean it with the
>instructions on this page

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member of this list.

Keith Addison
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>
>saludos
>
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>Valencis,spain


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RE: [biofuel] washing machine and biodiesel

2001-11-30 Thread M Rolan


Tell me please on wich pieces should I be carefull
 
thanks
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, spain

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De: David Preskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: viernes, 30 de noviembre de 2001 10:37
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] washing machine and biodiesel




Manolo Rolan wrote:

>electric engine -> good for the main mixer
>water pump -> good for the methoxide mixer
>solenoid valves -> a step to automate the process making to move the
>methoxide from its mixer to the main mixer after a time
>thermostat -> to shut down an electric heater when a temperature is reached
>tubes and cables
>i want to use too a fridge's compressor for the bubble washing and the
methanol recovering someone has try to >do something like this? is there
something i could forget? any extra ideas.

Yeah, you forgot sparks, explosions and untimely death
-- 
 
Recycling - not a chore more a way of life

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RE: [biofuel] washing machine and biodiesel

2001-11-30 Thread M Rolan

thanks david, i'll think in all those points-Mensaje original-
De: David Preskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: viernes, 30 de noviembre de 2001 11:11
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Asunto: Re: [biofuel] washing machine and biodiesel

M Rolan wrote:
> 
> Tell me please on wich pieces should I be carefull

If you're using the methoxide process, do not use equipment that is not
"intrinsically safe for use in potentially explosive atmosheres".

washing machine motors have carbon brushes on a commutator which are very
efficient spark generators
Solenoid valves - sealed against explosive methanol vapours?
water pump - ditto plus pressure
thermostat - and if it fails?
static protection - you have none

And so it goes on. None of this addresses the toxicity of methanol nor the
environmental implications of waste water, VOC emissions or glycerol
disposal.

-- 

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RE: [biofuel] Possible Viruses

2001-12-03 Thread M Rolan

the virus gets the email account from old postings, so if you unsubsribe
from the list you can still recive a mail with virus if someone infected has
an email from you, (a post to the group or other mail)

 -Mensaje original-
De: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: lunes, 03 de diciembre de 2001 16:51
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] Possible Viruses

 The point is that you cannot possibly get anything but plain ascii text
email from the biofuels list -- no html email, no attachments -- therefore
you cannot get a virus from the list. You can, however, get a virus from
someone on the list who sends to you privately,
offlist, an html email. But unsubscribing from this list to avoid viruses is
silly.
And note that not all lists have html and attachments turned off --- for
those lists I would change my subsription to digest only, which also gets
rid of html and attachments.

Mati Kokk wrote:

> Those people who use MS Outlook Express or MS Outlook for reading e-mails,
can get virus into their computer even from such a message which does not
contain attachment files.   Pre-viewing of an infected e-mail message
without attachment file is sufficient to get infected.

 Well, the answer is pretty simple -- stop using those virus magnets,
and you'll solve 99% of the virus problem. But even if you are using them,
you still can't get a virus from biofuels propagated email.

>
>
> My computer got the Badtrans virus from this list, but Norton Antivirus in
my computer immediately recognized the virus and killed it.
>
> Mati Kokk
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Harmon Seaver
>   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>   Cc: Hanns B. Wetzel
>   Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:41 AM
>   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Possible Viruses
>
> I have a bit of difficulty understanding why people keep claiming
>   they are getting viruses from this list. The list software doesn't not
>   allow attachments to be sent with the email, therefore, it is
>   essentially impossible for anyone to get a virus from the biofuels list.
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RE: [biofuel] Re: Possible Viruses

2001-12-03 Thread M Rolan


they don't came through the list, the virus gets the email from the postings
and send itself directly
 

-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: lunes, 03 de diciembre de 2001 17:08
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Re: Possible Viruses


A list member sent me his virus scanner report showing three of the 
four virus infected messages he'd received had come from the Biofuels 
list. However, when I checked them, they turned out to be imposters - 
none of the three messages exists, false names, false subjects. And, 
of course, sent direct. But that's why some people think this list is 
infecting them.

Keith Addison
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RE: [biofuel] Current plague of email viruses

2001-12-04 Thread M Rolan


best solution an updated antivirus
 
other solution:
 
disable the preview option on outlook express and outlook, when arrives a
mail with an attachment click it with the right button (not left one) and
select options, then you can see on the header the name of the file
attached, if it is a .com, .exe, .pif, .scr or something you are not waiting
for, delete it without opening it
 
Manuel Roln
Valencia, Spain

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Enviado el: martes, 04 de diciembre de 2001 1:53
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Asunto: Re: [biofuel] Current plague of email viruses


that doesn't work. It's a hoax fix.

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Subject: [biofuel] Current plague of email viruses


> * IMPORTANT NOTICE ON STOPPING SPREAD OF WORM VIRUSES **
> Helping to stop the worm virus
> To protect your E-address - I learned a computer trick today that's
> really ingenious in its simplicity.
> As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets into your computer it
> heads straight for your email address book and sends itself to
> everyone in there, thus infecting all your friends and associates.
> This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your computer,
> but it will stop it from using your address book to spread further,
> and it will alert you to the fact that the worm has gotten into
> your system.
> Here's what you do: first, open your address book and click on "new
> contact" just as you would do if you were adding a new friend to your
> list of email addresses.  In the window where you would type your
> friend's first name, type in !000 (that's an exclamation mark followed
> by 3 zeros). In the window below where it prompts you to enter the new
> email address, type in WormAlert. (If it tells you this is not a valid
> address just say yes to add it, or ok). Then complete everything by
> clicking add, enter, ok, etc.
> Now, here's what you've done and why it works: the "name" !000 will be
> placed at the top of your address book as entry #1.  This will be where
> the worm will start in an effort to send itself to all your friends.
> But when it tries to send itself to !000, it will be undeliverable
> because of the phony email address you entered (WormAlert).  If the
> first attempt fails (which it will because of the phony address), the
> worm goes no further and your friends will not be infected.
> Here's the second great advantage of this method: if an email cannot be
> delivered, you will be notified of this in your Inbox almost
> immediately.
> Hence, if you ever get an email telling you that an email addressed to
> WormAlert could not be delivered, you know right away that you have the
> worm virus in your system.  You can then take steps to get rid of it!
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RE: ATTENTION!!!! - was Re: [biofuel] ethanol; virus found on thi s email attachment

2001-12-12 Thread M Rolan


Hi keith

don't you remember this messagge?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/9886

true, the group does not allow to attach files, but if you post a message to
the group and is sent to someone infected, the virus takes your address from
that message and you will recive a message not necesarely with the same
email address that person is registered on the group with the virus attached
on it

-that virus cames from the group?
not straight from the group

-that virus uses the group?
yes, it takes email addreses from people posting on it to send them infected
messages with the same subject lines that real messages from the group are
using.

-what can we do?
to use an updated antivirus, not opening messages with attached files, or to
read this group from the web.


sorry for this off-topic message, sorry to anyone tired of reading about
viruses on this group.

regards to every one

Manolo


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RE: [biofuel] SVO/WVO conversion - VEG-Therm-

2001-12-12 Thread M Rolan


 

just an idea:
 
i was thinking on a vegoil two tanks conversion using the exhaust to heat
vegoil. if we put the vegoil tank on the rear part of the car and it goes to
the engine on a copper pipe paralel to the exhaust pipe, close enough to be
heated and far enough to not to reach too hight temperatures, and to use the
return line with heated vegoil runing close to the incoming line on the
oposite side of the exaust  to heat the other side, perhaps this way we can
get a simple conversion, or perhaps i've been drinking too much coffe and i
need to sleep a bit more and not to think so much.
 
anyone with more experience can tell me if this is possible?
 
thanks in advance
 
Manolo Roln
Valencia, Spain



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RE: ATTENTION!!!! - was Re: [biofuel] ethanol; virus found on thi s email attachment

2001-12-13 Thread M Rolan


 

-Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: mircoles, 12 de diciembre de 2001 17:25
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: ATTENTION - was Re: [biofuel] ethanol; virus found on thi s
email attachment




No! It got your address from the address book of somebody who 
received your message.

[M Rolan] 
not necessary to be on the address book, when a infected computer receives a
mail from the group, the virus takes the email address from the message
 
 
It will be a false message, with a false title claiming it came from 
the Biofuels list, and a false sender's address, quite possibly of 
someone who isn't even a list member - but it WON'T have been sent to 
you by the list. Obviously, as you're on Web-only.
[M Rolan] 
 
yes, is a member but if someone has several pop email accounts configured on
his outlook, the virus can use a diferent one than the one that person is
suscribed to the group, if you try to send a message to the email addres of
that person you will recive your message answered with the virus atached

i promise not to send any more message on the group about this topic, if
someone wants more information can look on  www.antivirus.com
<http://www.antivirus.com> 
 
and search for "badtrans"
 
sorry
 
Manuel Rolan
Valencia, Spain 




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RE: [biofuel] Home Made scale

2002-01-07 Thread M Rolan


thanks derek, at the begining i had a lot of trouble with the weight
measurament, it's a pitty not to know abut this before. 
 
i found it very useful
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain

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De: Darrell Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: domingo, 06 de enero de 2002 18:17
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Home Made scale


Hello all
I have lurking and learning from this list as well as several others.
I've noticed a widespread need for a fairly accurate scale.
I would appreciate your trying this one that I thought it up many years ago
to weigh my bicycle, parts and touring gear. I use it
for soap making, experimenting with stoves as well as other things:
http://www.willinet.net/~beckdb/scale.htm
 
I have pictures as well as the Excel file that drives it on my isp.
It is quite simple, like me, but can be quite accurate over a broad range of
weights.
The best part is it shouldn't cost much to make.

Darrell Beck



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RE: [biofuel] Glycerol uses

2002-01-10 Thread M Rolan


Glycerol is the best to clean greasy hands after fixing my bicicle
;-)
 
Manolo Roln
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RE: [biofuel] Re: wvo burner and biodiesel

2002-01-15 Thread M Rolan


 
thanks t_watchornnz , sounds good but would like you to explain me a little
better, my english is not very good and i am a little slow to understand.
 
How do you put the pipe on the 10l tin? could you please post some schema or
photo?,  thanks very much, i think is a great idea.
 
yesterday i tried using a plastic cap of a 5l water bottle with a hole in
the middle, an old fridge compressor, ( those that Dana likes so much ;-) ),
and a rubber pipe from the compressor to the hole in the cap.
 
i fixed the cap to be horizontal with the top of the tap down, so it could
hold some wvo, i poured some wvo and when it started to atomize it, i put
fire on it, and a nice flame fegan to blow.
 
this week i will try with some tins and a copper pipe.

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De: t_watchornnz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: martes, 15 de enero de 2002 8:50
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Re: wvo burner and biodiesel


Hi,
I've been using a crude but effective burner to heat oil to get rid 
of water. Can heat 150 litre to 130 degC in just over an hour. Am 
using a 200L drum on a stand to hold the oil. I place a 10L tin under 
this, which I fill about 1/3 to 1/2 with WVO (mainly the thick 
rubbishy stuff along with glycrine from test bachs etc). Into this I 
also bury a couple of old rages. Into the top of this I have a pipe 
(about 40mm)in which I blow air via a heat gun blower or old vacum 
cleaner. I us bio-d soked paper to light. The fire's abit sooty, but 
it roars.
I have tried just with glycrine, but it doesn't have anywhere asmuch 
heat out put.

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RE: [biofuel] Re: wvo burner and biodiesel

2002-01-16 Thread M Rolan

ok, thanks, i think now i understand it better, i'll try it, to compare
diferent methods

-Mensaje original-
De: t_watchornnz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: mircoles, 16 de enero de 2002 4:34
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Re: wvo burner and biodiesel

I will try another word picture, as I not to fast on the drawings.

The 40mm pipe which I feed the air through comes across from the side 
above the fuel tin and is elbowed down into the tin. I have it about 
50mm above the oil. I support the pipe on the stand the hold the oil 
to be heated.
Hope this helps.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], M Rolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> thanks t_watchornnz , sounds good but would like you to explain me 
a little
> better, my english is not very good and i am a little slow to 
understand.
>  
> How do you put the pipe on the 10l tin? could you please post some 
schema or
> photo?,  thanks very much, i think is a great idea.
>  

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RE: [biofuel] Re: for those speaking spanish

2002-01-16 Thread M Rolan


very very interesting
 
gracias christian
 
Manolo Roln
Valencia, Espaa

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De: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: martes, 15 de enero de 2002 18:34
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] Re: for those speaking spanish


Sorry for that...

Try:

http://www.sagpya.mecon.gov.ar/0-0/index/institucional/biodisel/Master.pdf



(It«s 1.9 Mb so be patient)

Regards,

Christian

(Me confund... en la direccin aparece un espaolismo-->
biodiesel:biodisel)

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From: "manolorolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:53 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: for those speaking spanish


Hi christian, sounds interesting, but i can't find any file on that
address, it gives me an 404 error, file not found

Thanks

Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain

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economics and efficiencies in tractor engines in Argentina, published
by Monsanto and the Agriculture Secretary of Argentina at:
>
> www.sagpya.mecon.gov.ar/0-0/index/institucional/biodiesel/Master.pdf
>
> It«s 80+ pages long, and also covers areas such as energies in the
global market, oils & prices, taxes, emissions, etc etc. Much of it
speaks of these variables in Argentina, but if you can read spanish,
you might as well give it a go. It seems quite extense.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christian
>
>
>
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RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan


i made the traslation, you can find it here:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc

to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm

with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
version ;-)

cheers
Manolo Roln
Valencia, Espaa



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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: mircoles, 16 de enero de 2002 23:03
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0


i would much appreciate a english version of this.
i thank you in advance for taking the time to translate
this.
  best regards, roger kurz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> here is my second try of wvo burner, i have to change some thinks 
> like the feed of wvo is a rubber pipe on a place where it gets too 
> hot so this rubber melts, better versions will came.
> 
> I intend to use this to dry wvo to make biodiesel
> 
> i've made a document with photos, schema and explanations, at the 
> moment only in spanish, if someone is interested i can traslate it.
> 
> large version, big photos (1Mb):
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
> 
> short version, smaller photos (128k)
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.doc
> 
> please, comments are welcome, please please please.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Manolo Roln
> Valencia, Spain
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RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan


try again, is a word file on english, sometimes geocities said that there
was a lot of trafic and disabbles the acces for a while, try again an tell
me, Àyou get any error?
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 17 de enero de 2002 10:57
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0


could not find the translation when i clicked your site?
   regrds, roger
> i made the traslation, you can find it here:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
> 
> to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
> 
> with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
> version ;-)
> 
> cheers
> Manolo Roln
> Valencia, Espaa
> 
> 
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: mircoles, 16 de enero de 2002 23:03
> Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: Re: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0
> 
> 
> i would much appreciate a english version of this.
> i thank you in advance for taking the time to translate
> this.
>   best regards, roger kurz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > here is my second try of wvo burner, i have to change some thinks 
> > like the feed of wvo is a rubber pipe on a place where it gets too 
> > hot so this rubber melts, better versions will came.
> > 
> > I intend to use this to dry wvo to make biodiesel
> > 
> > i've made a document with photos, schema and explanations, at the 
> > moment only in spanish, if someone is interested i can traslate it.
> > 
> > large version, big photos (1Mb):
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
> > 
> > short version, smaller photos (128k)
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.doc
> > 
> > please, comments are welcome, please please please.
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > Manolo Roln
> > Valencia, Spain
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > 
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RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan


now is in other server, i hope now it works better.

english version:
http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
spanish version with big photos:
http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/quemadorwvo.htm

tell me if you are having any problems

Manolo rolan
Valencia, Spain

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De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 17 de enero de 2002 10:57
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0


could not find the translation when i clicked your site?
   regrds, roger
> i made the traslation, you can find it here:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
> 
> to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
> 
> with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
> version ;-)
> 
> cheers
> Manolo Roln
> Valencia, Espaa
> 
> 
> 
> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: mircoles, 16 de enero de 2002 23:03
> Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: Re: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0
> 
> 
> i would much appreciate a english version of this.
> i thank you in advance for taking the time to translate
> this.
>   best regards, roger kurz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > here is my second try of wvo burner, i have to change some thinks 
> > like the feed of wvo is a rubber pipe on a place where it gets too 
> > hot so this rubber melts, better versions will came.
> > 
> > I intend to use this to dry wvo to make biodiesel
> > 
> > i've made a document with photos, schema and explanations, at the 
> > moment only in spanish, if someone is interested i can traslate it.
> > 
> > large version, big photos (1Mb):
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
> > 
> > short version, smaller photos (128k)
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.doc
> > 
> > please, comments are welcome, please please please.
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RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan


opening a valve on the air circuit that lets the air came out the circuit,
it reduces the air presure on the burner and reduce the flame, i want to try
too with a valve on the oil feed.
 
as soon i have any new result i will post it here
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain

 -Mensaje original-
De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 17 de enero de 2002 11:04
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0



>i made the traslation, you can find it here:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
 
>
>to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
> http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
 
>
>with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
>version ;-)
>
>cheers
>Manolo Roln
>Valencia, Espaa

Very nice Manolo. Nice and simple. Thanks for translating it. Would 
you be able to regulate the flame, and thus the temperature of the 
WVO being dried, by putting a rheostat on the blower? Or maybe just 
by putting a simple valve on the air-inlet pipe somewhere to reduce 
the air pressure?

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
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>Enviado el: mircoles, 16 de enero de 2002 23:03
>Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>Asunto: Re: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0
>
>
>i would much appreciate a english version of this.
>i thank you in advance for taking the time to translate
>this.
>  best regards, roger kurz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > here is my second try of wvo burner, i have to change some thinks
> > like the feed of wvo is a rubber pipe on a place where it gets too
> > hot so this rubber melts, better versions will came.
> >
> > I intend to use this to dry wvo to make biodiesel
> >
> > i've made a document with photos, schema and explanations, at the
> > moment only in spanish, if someone is interested i can traslate it.
> >
> > large version, big photos (1Mb):
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
 
> >
> > short version, smaller photos (128k)
> > http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.doc
 
> >
> > please, comments are welcome, please please please.
> >
> > cheers
> >
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RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan


the problem here that the sky puluted is not only owned by us citizens, and
the more afected by climate change are the citizens far awey the us, like
the ones afected by the mitch, or the starvation, on central america.
 
and still other problem, big american enterprises goes to contaminate
outside their bounderies where the polution and security laws are weak
 
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain

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De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: jueves, 17 de enero de 2002 11:23
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
CC: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?



Who Owns The Sky?
We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There
by Ann Hancock
The "Sky Trust" is a free-market approach to reducing air pollution
that has an interesting dividend: annual payments to all U.S. citizens.
Such 'sky rent' could put a $1,000 check in your pocket each year.


http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm?ID=4973
 
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Who Owns The Sky?
We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There

Ann Hancock is a sustainability educator who lives in Sonoma County, 
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Steven Rosenfeld produced this piece.

The White House doesn't need Enron to show its true loyalties on 
energy. Whatever's best for energy companies' profits suits their 
definition of public policy. How else to explain the recent Bush 
proposal rolling back clean air standards by 30 years? Or its 
announcement that new or expanding power plants needn't install the 
latest anti-air pollution devices? It's payback time for Bush's 
energy friends and funders, plain and simple.

Such favoritism is bad from an environmental perspective. It's also 
bad economics. But it is possible to reduce air pollution using the 
marketplace. It is possible for private companies to follow their 
profit-making instincts and still make money while reducing global 
warming emissions. How is that, you might ask? It's all laid out in a 
brilliant book by Peter Barnes titled Who Owns The Sky, describing an 
idea called the Sky Trust.

Who owns the sky? The answer is obvious. It's everybody. In public 
policy terms, it's called "public trust," based on a legal doctrine 
that declares that the state holds certain resources in trust for its 
citizens -- like national parks. With this as a starting point, 
Barnes, the founder of Working Assets, suggests that we consider 
carbon emissions just like any other commodity. Polluters such as 
power plants would pay to discharge into the sky, similar to the 
effective system now used to limit U.S. sulfur emissions. Polluters 
could use alternative technologies and pay less, or not at all. And 
where would the money go that's been collected? Into an account 
that's returned to citizens, the Sky Trust.

This notion is not far-fetched. In Alaska, where oil companies have 
been drilling on state and federal lands -- public lands -- a similar 
dividend accrues to residents. Last year the Alaska Permanent Fund 
paid citizens about $2,000 each. What Alaskans do with oil, Americans 
can do with sky. Annual sky rent could equal about $386 billion, 
according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, enough for 
each American to receive a $1,000 check every year.

Congressional analysts like the Sky Trust idea, too. The 
Congressional Budget Office studied various approaches for reducing 
greenhouse gases, and concluded that the Sky Trust's cap-and-trade 
approach is the best. Every year Congress would establish a limit on 
the amount of allowable greenhouse gas, and the Sky Trust would 
auction off the rights to pollute. As the allowable emissions were 
gradually reduced, the price would go up, and so would each 
American's annual dividend.

And just in case anyone needs reminding, news about climate change is 
very troubling. Last decade was the warmest on record. Sea levels 
rose about 8 to 12 inches during the last century, recently forcing 
thousands of residents of Tuvalu, a tiny spot in the Pacific Ocean, 
to leave their island home. To avert the worst of global warming, 
predominant scientific opinion says that we must reduce greenhouse 
gas emissions worldwide by at least 60 percent. Compare this figure 
with the 5.2 percent cut called for in the Kyoto Treaty signed two 
months ago by 180 nations, every major nation except the United 
States. Clearly, a new approach is badly needed.

Barnes is setting up a turnkey Sky Trust complete with board of 
directors, ready for the public, Congress, and the President to 
implement. All Congress must do is pass a law creating the Sky Trust.

America would curb its fossil fuel appetite. Those who use the most 
would pay, and those who use the least would be rewarded. Our 
children's children would inherit a habitable Earth. The Sky Trust 
reflects American capitalism at its finest.

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RE: [biofuel] for those speaking spanish

2002-01-21 Thread M Rolan


hi claudia
try this one:
 

http://www.sagpya.mecon.gov.ar/0-0/index/institucional/biodisel/Master.pdf
 
for those speaking spanish, there is a very interesting group reated to
biodiesel and other biofuels 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biogasoil
 
 
saludos
 
Manolo Roln
Valencia, Spain
 
 

-Mensaje original-
De: Claudia Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: lunes, 21 de enero de 2002 15:53
Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: RE: [biofuel] for those speaking spanish


Hi Christian,

Please, I cannot contact with this web. Can you help me?

Thanks,
Claudia M.

- Original Message -
From: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:29 PM
Subject: [biofuel] for those speaking spanish


There«s a very good report on BD, specially focusing on the economics and
efficiencies in tractor engines in Argentina, published by Monsanto and the
Agriculture Secretary of Argentina at:

www.sagpya.mecon.gov.ar/0-0/index/institucional/biodiesel/Master.pdf

It«s 80+ pages long, and also covers areas such as energies in the global
market, oils & prices, taxes, emissions, etc etc. Much of it speaks of these
variables in Argentina, but if you can read spanish, you might as well give
it a go. It seems quite extense.

Regards,

Christian



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RE: [biofuel] biodiesel taxes in spain

2002-01-28 Thread M Rolan


thanks Richard, here it is, don't get scared:

cheers

Manolo Roln
Valencia, Spain

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Referencia: JC/ag
N¼ Consulta: 0050-02
N¼ Registro: 48879/01
Subdireccin: 09

Entidad Consultante:
(nombre o razn social)
Sr. D. Manuel Roln Daz

Concepto impositivo:
Impuestos Especiales - Impuesto sobre hidrocarburos

Normativa aplicable
Ley 38/1992 arts. 46-2, 51-3

Descripcin sucinta de los hechos:
Un particular ha producido experimentalmente, mediante 
traseterificacin de aceites vegetales usados, un producto al que 
denomina "biodiesel" y que, segn indica, podra ser utilizado como 
carburante en motores Diesel, directamente o mezclando con gasleo.

Cuestin planteada:
Efectos tributarios de la utilizacin del citado producto como 
carburante.

Consulta:
1.  El artculo 46, apartado 2 de la Ley 38/1992, de 28 de 
diciembre, de Impuestos Especiales (BOE de 29 de diciembre) establece 
que los productos "destinados a ser utilizados como carburante, como 
aditivos para carburante o para aumentar el volumen final de 
determinado carburante" estarn incluidos en el mbito objetivos del 
impuesto.

Por consiguiente, la utilizacin como carburante del 
producto "biodiesel" a que alude el consultante, implica la inclusin 
de dicho producto en el mbito objetivo del Impuesto sobre 
Hidrocarburos quedando el "biodiesel" sujeto y gravado, en principio, 
con el tipo impositivo correspondiente al hidrocarburo equivalente, 
tal como establece el artculo 50, apartado, 2 de la Ley de Impuestos 
Especiales.

En el caso consultado, puesto que el producto "biodiesel" seria 
utilizado como sustitutivo del gasleo de automocin, bien 
directamente o mezclado con este carburante, el tipo impositivo 
correspondiente ser el que viene establecido en el epgrafe 1.3 del 
artculo 50.1 de la Ley de Impuestos Especiales, que en el ao 2002, 
es de 269,86 euros por mil litros.

2.  Sin prejuicio de lo anterior, cabe indicar que el artculo 51 
de la Ley de Impuestos Especiales contempla una exencin del 
impuesto, en el marco de un proyecto piloto y en las condiciones que 
reglamentariamente se establezcan, para:

"La fabricacin, importacin o comercializacin de los productos que 
a continuacin se relacionan, que se destinen a su uso como 
carburante, directamente o mezclados con carburantes convencionales, 
en el campo de las actividades piloto para el desarrollo tecnolgico 
de productos menos contaminantes:

---

c) Los aceites vegetales definidos en los cdigos NC 1507, 1508, 
1510, 1511, 1512, 1513, 1514, 1515

d) El aceite vegetal, modificado qumicamente, definido en el cdigo 
NC 1518"

Dichas condiciones reglamentarias se encuentran establecidas en el 
artculo 105 del Reglamento de los Impuestos Especiales, aprobado por 
Real Decreto 1165/1995 de 28 de julio, en la modificacin introducida 
por el Real Decreto 112/1998, de 30 de enero (BOE de 31 de enero y 14 
de febrero).

3.  Debe sealarse, por otra parte, que la ley 24/2001, de 27 de 
Diciembre, de Medidas Fiscales, Administrativas y del Orden Social 
(BOE de 31 de diciembre) ha creado el Impuesto sobre las Ventas 
Minoristas de Determinados Hidrocarburos. Este impuesto, que ha 
entrado en vigor el 1 de enero de 2002, grava las ventas minoristas 
de ciertos hidrocarburos (e, igualmente, el autoconsumo de los 
productos gravados por los sujetos pasivos del impuesto) y, adems, 
de los productos que se destinen a ser utilizados como carburante, 
como aditivos para carburante o para aumentar el volumen final de un 
carburante. Por tanto, este impuesto decide igualmente sobre el de 
Biodiesel como carburante; el tipo impositivo correspondiente est 
establecido en la disposicin Diez, nmero 2, letra b, del impuesto y 
es 24 euros por mil litros. La normativa de este impuesto no 
contempla ninguna exencin para los biocarburantes.

Lo que comunico a vd. Con el alcance y efectos previstos en el 
apartado 2 del artculo 107 de la Ley General Tributaria

Madrid 17 de enero de 2002-01-24 
El director General de tributos
P.D.(Res.27.02.87;BOE27.03.87)
El Subdirector General de impuestos especiales y
de tributos sobre el comercio exterior

Juan Jos Escobar Lasala

Ministerio de Hacienda
Registro general
18 Enero 2002
Salida: 00260

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