Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?
A diesel WILL outperform a gasoline hybrid in overall fuel economy. But when we drive around town, there are times when we're using NO fuel at all, which means we're not putting anything into the air either. We burn NO fuel while sitting at a light. A diesel can't do that. I beg to differ. There is nothing to stop you switching the engine off when standing still. We have signs requesting you to do so at some level crossings as well. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madur.at, www.madurusa.com > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] EV is not dead
>-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:54:13 -0400 >From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] EV is not dead >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Personally, I like the Advanced DC motors. But then I think regen is >over-rated. If you learn to drive so that you use the brakes as little >as possible, then regen offers little advantage, for there is little >braking energy for it to recoup. Good strategy for improving fuel >economy in ICE vehicles too. > >An Electrek - wow that takes me back. So ugly they were cute. How's >the body (plastic I think) holding up after all these years? > >Darryl > > Just the point I was trying to make. Regen does give you advantages, but you have to get used to it to use it properly. I drive the same way as you. Just had to change the brake pads on my car at 180 000 km, so I guess I do not use them very much. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madur.at, www.madurusa.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 3. Speak German (JAMES PHELPS)
3. Speak German (JAMES PHELPS) > > > >Quit some time ago there was a joke posted about changing vowels and sounds in >the English language to correct things, by the end it was German can anyone >show me the joke again? > >Jim > > >Yes, my sister sent it to me. I will dig it out for you. > > Ready for new English? European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas. If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Subject: Biodiesel processing plant
Hi Roger, my brother in law just planted 15 hectares of rapeseed in the area of Cajamarca. Maybe you would like to get in touch with him as well. He is thinking on the same lines if the stuff will grow properly there. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madur.at, www.madurusa.com Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:39:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Roger Cotrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processing plant To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear members: . Estimated friends: This is Roger Cotrina from Lima - Peru. I am gliding to install a small biodiesel plant to obtain 1,000 daily liters of biodiesel using oil of palm and recycled oils. May someone recommend to me some plant or brand of this capacity and the manufacturer? This step that dare is the preliminary one to develop a bigger project in the jungle of Peru taking the great advantages of the tax incentives that the government has given recently. Reards Roger Cotrina __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ?gratis! Reg?strate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World
That was German. It is phonetically written German dialect from one of the southern areas. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madur.at, www.madurusa.com Kåre Skak Pedersen schrieb: > Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? > > I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. > > Greetings from Denmark, Europe > Skak > > On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> eh Ken, >> thats simply the language of resistance! >> Fritz >> - Original Message - >> From: Ken Provost >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World >> >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: >> >> > Grüaßdi Fritzl, >> > >> > Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d >> > Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! >> > >> > Pfüatdi >> >> >> Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! >> >> > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biofuel bill
fuel and replaces teh sulphur compounds in that way. Using straight biodiesel can be a problem in that it cleans all the muck off the inside of the tank and blocks the filters when first used. The problem is short-term. When the muck is cleaned off, then the biodiesel is as clean as any standard pump fuel. In winter it can also cause problems since it gels at a higher temperature. Biodiesel is chemically different. It is an ester, not a straight-chain hydrocarbon. -- Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Born Again: Help Portland, Oregon
if you have all the waste from at least one restaurant, then maybe you should think about biogas instead of bidiesel. Ideally, some manure would be a nice addition - cow muck is easiest to work with. If you really need the diesel, then I would still use the rest for anaerobic digestion for gas production. If the contributor is correct, you can add the glycerine to the biodigeter as well. You can convert most spark ignition engines to run on methane, together wit hanything else you need to run such as heating etc. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Send Biofuel mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] METHANOL: I've been on the phone all day ... raceways, and drag strips ... I LIKE THESE GUYS ... "come and get it" $4.00/gal ... small quantites or by barrel. Miller Paint went to work for me and gave me three excellent sources they use ... all of them panned-out too. I got a glimmer of hope in being able to believe MAN'S word again. Best I can find is $3.54/gal ... I can see this hunt will be a routine and constant in making BD. BUT, Theo, you're right, these companies want to see legitimate business. One company salesman is sending someone to our farm to make sure we're a farm. I said, "I don't have a set-up yet, I don't have a company name yet, I'm checking FEASIBILITY ... but come on-out". He said, it's a LIABILITY-thing for us. "I don't want to see our barrel label on the NEWS ..." ... GULP SOMEONE please tell me what these guys are looking for ... they're going to find barns, pigs, tractors, and lot's of Hazelnut trees. I DON'T want to be on a radar screen ... sheesh ... can someone please tell me about MeOH in the US. IS IT LAWFUL TO OWN? assume yes ... IS IT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE? assume no ... ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO TRANSPORT IT? ... race guys don't ... it must be a no-no AM I RIGHT TO ASK TO HAVE IT BARREL DELIVERED? ... assume absolutely ... OK TO SIGN A COMPANY WAIVER, POISON MYSELF, AND/OR BURN THE FARM DOWN? ... assume sure, I'm free to do just that and there is no chemical-co liability ... these guys are digging for something else. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: Methanol supplies
trouble with theft of ammonia fertiliser. I can't remember what you make with it, but methanol is also used in the drug industry, and there have been cases in various countries of it being added to alcoholic drinks. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com METHANOL: I've been on the phone all day ... raceways, and drag strips ... I LIKE THESE GUYS ... "come and get it" $4.00/gal ... small quantites or by barrel. Miller Paint went to work for me and gave me three excellent sources they use ... all of them panned-out too. I got a glimmer of hope in being able to believe MAN'S word again. Best I can find is $3.54/gal ... I can see this hunt will be a routine and constant in making BD. BUT, Theo, you're right, these companies want to see legitimate business. One company salesman is sending someone to our farm to make sure we're a farm. I said, "I don't have a set-up yet, I don't have a company name yet, I'm checking FEASIBILITY ... but come on-out". He said, it's a LIABILITY-thing for us. "I don't want to see our barrel label on the NEWS ..." ... GULP SOMEONE please tell me what these guys are looking for ... they're going to find barns, pigs, tractors, and lot's of Hazelnut trees. I DON'T want to be on a radar screen ... sheesh ... can someone please tell me about MeOH in the US. IS IT LAWFUL TO OWN? assume yes ... IS IT A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE? assume no ... ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO TRANSPORT IT? ... race guys don't ... it must be a no-no AM I RIGHT TO ASK TO HAVE IT BARREL DELIVERED? ... assume absolutely ... OK TO SIGN A COMPANY WAIVER, POISON MYSELF, AND/OR BURN THE FARM DOWN? ... assume sure, I'm free to do just that and there is no chemical-co liability ... these guys are digging for something else. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: Lutec
Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com Message: 2 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:45:51 -0600 From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This device (see attached pic) is due for release, starting in Australia where Lutec Pty Ltd is located, and then to all countries where licensing is completed. This device can furnish the all the electricity needed by the average home and runs on battery power. It produces 15 times more energy than it uses from the battery input. It's installed in the home where it's to be used. See their website at: www.lutec.com.au It appears to be the real deal. Let's hope it is. Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. It is interesting that the Australian government would not provide any startup help whatsoever. Let's hope nothing stops the release of this new technology. It does seem that every time something like this comes along it is trashed by vested powers. It is not hard to imagine this technology powering cars and trucks, producing zero pollution and unlimited mileage. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: D. Mindock.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/attachments/20050331/3de841b9/D.Mindock-0001.vcf -- ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel End of Biofuel Digest, Vol 7, Issue 69 ** ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 8, Issue 22
Do think about water, though, they really don't like it! Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com essage: 6 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:01:20 -1000 From: Thomas Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The 71 series detroit diesels have long been an industry standard. they are a higher rpm engine and widely used in fishing boats for their speed. they are a two cycle engine with a blower and are not quite as rugged as some of the other diesels, ie, more easily damaged by overheating, more prone to cracked heads, , and are famous for being "leakers", leaking oil, and require a bit more tuning to keep running at top efficiency, mainly keeping the "rack" adjusted. In two cylinder engines, 2-71's or 2-53's refering to the individual volume in cubic inches of the combustion chamber this shouldnt be to much of a problem. I dont know how their rubber parts are affected by biodiesel, but they are a good engine and have been around for ever, pre WW2 if I remember correctly. They arent going to meet any modern pollution control standards, which is probably why they were sold off. They dont have the bottom end, loads of torque, at slower speeds, but , this isnt a problem with generators. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Re: Kerosene
biodiesel. Mixed 50/50 with biodiesel or normal diesel you can burn it quite happily in most motors I know of. I would not use it pure, though, since it is about halfway between petrol and diesel and will not lubricate very well. It will be fine for cold starts in winter. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com Message: 5 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:01:56 +1000 From: "Chris Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] Kerosene To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been offered by an aviation industry service mob, up to 1500litres of free kerosene. Aparently, this comes from some sort of turbine, and when the fuel tank has a problem, they drain it and are not allowed to reuse it. They are literally giving it away, I just have to collect it. Can kerosene be used as an alternative fuel in diesel or petrol cars? If not I'll have plenty of kero for heating my WVO Chris Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power
So, somebody else knows how to get something for nothing. Why won't they tell me how they do it? In my world, the energy to split the molecules on the go comes from the alternator, which gets its power from the fuel via the engine. How come it never works for me, whe nso many other people seem capable of breaking all the so-called laws of thermodyamics? Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com >Message: 13 >Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:37:11 + >From: " Alt.EnergyNetwork " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Biofuel] truckers choose hydrogen power >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Truckers Choose Hydrogen Power > >< http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,69529,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_5 > > > >Hundreds of semitrailer trucks zipping along North > American highways are now powered in part by hydrogen. >These 18-wheelers make hydrogen as they go, eliminating > the need for high-pressure, cryogenic storage tanks > or hydrogen filling stations, which, by the way, don't > yet exist. > >These truckers aren't just do-gooders. They like Canadian > Hydrogen Energy's Hydrogen Fuel Injection, or HFI, system > because it lets them save fuel, get more horsepower and, > as a bonus, cause less pollution. > > "We're saving $700 a month per truck on fuel," said Sherwin > Fast, president of Great Plains Trucking in Salinas, Kansas. > The company tried the HFI system on four trucks and has >ordered 25 more. > >"Drivers like the increased power and noticed there is a lot > less black smoke coming out of the stacks," said Fast. > >HFI is a bolt-on, aftermarket part that injects small amounts > of hydrogen into the engine air intake, said Canadian Hydrogen > Energy's Steve Gilchrist. Fuel efficiency and horsepower are > improved because hydrogen burns faster and hotter than diesel, > dramatically boosting combustion efficiency. > >"You get more work from the same amount of fuel," said Gilchrist. > >This is not a new idea. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the >California Institute of Technology published research on the >uses of hydrogen as a combustion-enhancing agent in the early >1970s. But the ability to make hydrogen on the go is novel. > >The sticking point for hydrogen has always been getting it. >Unlike crude oil, natural gas, wind or solar energy, hydrogen > doesn't exist freely in nature. It costs $5 a gallon to make > hydrogen from natural gas. > >But the HFI system uses electricity from an engine's alternator > to power the electrolysis of water to produce hydrogen as needed > from small amounts of distilled water. > >"That's a big advantage and a bit of a novelty," said Venki Raman, > an expert on hydrogen-energy applications who started Protium > Energy Technologies. > >HFI's manufacturer guarantees 10 percent fuel savings, which likely > won't interest car companies or consumers, Raman said. But a >reduction of pollution emissions could spur broader use. > >Trucks with the HFI system produce half the amount of particulates > -- microscopic, unburned bits of diesel. The system also reduces > nitrogen-oxide emissions, which are major contributors to harmful > air pollution, by up to 14 percent, according to Canada's >Environmental Technology Verification Program. > >The HFI units are relatively small and cost between $4,000 and > $14,000, depending on the size of the vehicle. > >"It looks like a good transition technology to hydrogen fuel cells, > which are still at least 15 years away from commercialization," >said Raman. > >It will take at least until 2040 before fuel cells begin to reduce > greenhouse gas emissions, according to the National Hydrogen >Association, Gilchrist pointed out. > >"We vehemently disagree with governments picking the fuel cell as > the single path to a cleaner environment," he said. > >Gilchrist recently argued just this point in meetings with >California officials, who are considering buying prototype >fuel-cell vehicles that will cost more than $1 million each. >That money could buy many HFI systems, which would provide > "300 times" the air-pollution reductions of one fuel-cell >vehicle, he said. > > >< http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,69529,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_5 > > > > > > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Investors At UN Meet Pledge $1 Billion In Clean Energy
Investors At UN Meet Pledge $1 Billion In Clean Energy = US and British institutional investors who collectively manage over $3 trillion in assets pledged on Tuesday to invest $1 billion in clean energy companies in an effort to reduce risks posed by climate change, reports Reuters. Institutional investors, including state treasurers from Connecticut and California, labor pension funds, and British pension funds, pledged to make the investment at the Institutional Investor Summit on Climate Risk. The institutions have already pledged to invest $450 million in clean energy technologies and the $1 billion includes that previous pledge. Steve Westly, controller of California, told reporters the money could be invested in anything from wind power to more efficient turbines at power plants to auto makers, such as Toyota, that make hybrid cars. The institutional investor pledge follows a plan unveiled on Monday by the giant industrial and media conglomerate General Electric Co. to nearly double its annual research and development investment for clean technologies to $1.5 billion by 2010. Mindy Lubber, president of Ceres, a Boston-based coalition of investors and environmental leaders, said that is the type of move that can protect companies from liability risks going forward. Abby Joseph Cohen, a partner and chief portfolio strategist for investment bank Goldman Sachs, said moves by companies to disclose climate risks "represent an enormous move in the right direction." Her company has created a scorecard of energy firms according to actions they have taken on global warming. But Cohen cautioned that as clean technologies are new, it is hard to find studies that investment in clean energy companies have led to better returns. Denise Nappier, the state treasurer of Connecticut, said the longer companies fail to disclose their climate liabilities including possible future regulations and lawsuits, the more they stand to possibly get hurt. The Associated Press further reports that in the daylong brainstorming "summit" at the UN, Harvard University environmental scientist John Holdren gave the more than 300 participants an update on the latest climate research, saying it's increasingly clear that rising global temperatures caused by emissions of carbon dioxide and other "greenhouse gases" would intensify heat waves, storms, floods, droughts and wildfires in the 21st century. Everything from agricultural productivity to the health of the global insurance industry would be adversely affected. Big investors like the treasurers, who manage state pension funds, are particularly concerned about electricity and other energy companies, which may face government-mandated cutbacks in carbon dioxide emissions, produced when they burn coal and other fossil fuels. Xinhua (China) and Kyodo (Japan) meanwhile note UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Tuesday that the Kyoto Protocol is only a first step and a framework for the years beyond 2012 is necessary to deal with climate change. The choices and pronouncements of investor communities could make decision-makers in government and industry take climate change seriously and investments can point the way toward smart policies and breakthrough technologies for energy and transport, Annan told the Second Investors Summit on Climate Risk. "You are accustomed to thinking big and thinking losing term," he said. "Those are exactly the skills we need to address one of the greatest challenges of this century." Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madurusa.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
