Re: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation

2004-02-15 Thread W Scott Pyatt

x-charset ISO-8859-1as for can any new car truck use ethanol you need to 
check the vin code on
the vehicle in question to see if the fuel injection rail is ethanol rated ,
yes they really do have 2 different rails and it does matter to the Mfg.
W Scott
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From: Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation



 My question is about registering with the Federal gov't for legal
 distillation for fuel alcohol.  If the individual goes through all
 the proper paper procedures and obtains the distillation permit, what
 can one expect from the gov't after this?



 The only paperwork that is required for an Application and Permit For
Alcohol Fuel Producer (form 5110.74).  At present this form is not on
ATF's/TTB website for download.  Just a phone call to the national center
and they will put some in the mail to you.  I have never heard of anyone
having been turned down nor have I ever heard of anyone having a government
official show up to verify the permit.  There is not much to expect from the
government after the permit process.  You do need to file a report at the
end of the year stating how much alcohol you have produced.  I would guess
that they bounce this information against what number that you file for tax
credits.



 Are you only allowed to produce x amount of ethanol per year for
personal use?



 A small producers permit allows 50,000 proof gallons a year.  Personal or
otherwise.



 Will the individual be expected to pay highway taxes on their own alcohol
 produced?



 There are no highway taxes on ethanol.  Just tax credits.



 Does the gov't perform routine inspections on a person's personal still?



 I have never heard of a single inspection on a small producers permit.



 Also, what would make a good denaturant?



 Some acceptable denaturants are: gasoline, kerosene, deodorized kerosene,
rubber hydrocarbon solvent, methyl isobutyl and mixed isomers of
nitropropane.



 Final question to members-how does straight ethanol perform in fuel
 injected gasoline engines?



 Great !  You can go to GM, Dodge and Ford and buy it off the showroom
floor.



 Thanks.  Jonathan.



 Hope that this helps.

 Regards,

 Terry Wilhelm

 The Revenoor Co. INC

 Serving The World With Stills




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Re: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation

2004-02-14 Thread W Scott Pyatt

x-charset ISO-8859-1standard ethanol production is a bit more costly and 
timely than most people
think, as for the legal aspect of it there are a lot of records that must be
kept and yes you are open for federal inspection ( TTB ) as well as state
level alcohol inforcement, I have been in the alcohol buisness for over 5
years and the state and federal goverment have been very easy to work with.
W Scott
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 If I remember right, inspections of the property that the permit is for,
anytime the BATF, wants to look around.

 Greg H.
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   Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol distillation


   If the individual goes through all
   the proper paper procedures and obtains the distillation permit, what
   can one expect from the gov't after this?

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